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BillyBob

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Your kind denies that there is an age of accountability?

God automatically saves any infant/child that dies before they can mature to make a choice concerning God.
I think it is you who tries to define what God must automatically do!
The whole world is liable to the condemnation of God (Rom. 3:19), All have sinned and are deprived of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23), and The wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23).
If a child dies at a young age and is set aside as one of God's chosen - it is simply by grace! If has absolutely nothing to do with an age of accountability.
I cannot find any scripture which proclaims that God automatically does things.......
 

Genez

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I think it is you who tries to define what God must automatically do!
The whole world is liable to the condemnation of God (Rom. 3:19), All have sinned and are deprived of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23), and The wages of sin is death (Rom. 6:23).
If a child dies at a young age and is set aside as one of God's chosen - it is simply by grace! If has absolutely nothing to do with an age of accountability.
I cannot find any scripture which proclaims that God automatically does things.......

What you wrote, God was speaking to adults who had reached the age of accountability.

Infants and young children? They are exempt.

That is? If David was speaking Truth that ended up as a part of the Scripture. (2 Samuel 12:15-23)

The way you read it?
It would be like saying the law states that you have to be 21 to by beer.

Then, in walks someone into the shop you are working who is 25.
You tell him he can't buy beer. Why?
Because how you read it? The law says you have to be 21 to buy beer, and he is 25!

Sorry buddy... you ignore too much.
 

BillyBob

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What you wrote, God was speaking to adults who had reached the age of accountability.

Infants and young children? They are exempt.

That is? If David was speaking Truth that ended up as a part of the Scripture. (2 Samuel 12:15-23)

The way you read it?
It would be like saying the law states that you have to be 21 to by beer.

Then, in walks someone into the shop you are working who is 25.
You tell him he can't buy beer. Why?
Because how you read it? The law says you have to be 21 to buy beer, and he is 25!

Sorry buddy... you ignore too much.
I can understand the fact that you wish to believe that the young have not reached an age to choose God as their savior. I often struggle with this as well. And, I love your little story. Perhaps you should have it published. However, it has nothing to do with children being chosen by God! In fact, it is God who does the choosing. God will have mercy on those of His choosing!
As for David's child, if God chose the child, it certainly had nothing to do with an age of accountability.
Your words:
  • there is an age of accountability
  • God automatically saves any infant/child that dies before they can mature to make a choice concerning God.
  • Infants and young children? They are exempt.
You say that I ignore too much, and I say that you add too much!
 

Genez

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Something had to change
Did you overcome this condition in your own strength, or were you drawn to Christ by the power of the Spirit?
If you were drawn, were you able to resist being drawn?
Romans 1:18-21, says that there are men who are drawn, who willfully refused and resisted, even after knowing God is real!


The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness
of men, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is
plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine
nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men
are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their
thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Romans 1:18-21​


Sadness...

Its those who wish to defend their human-reasoned dogma (TULIP).
A dogma that they find themselves able to bond with others with.
Who will willfully blot out what the Word plainly says as to correct them.
A correction that would have them take a stand alone before God.

They find a doctrine that they wish to hear and dig in.

In Christ....
 

Genez

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I can understand the fact that you wish to believe that the young have not reached an age to choose God as their savior. I often struggle with this as well.
You say that I ignore too much, and I say that you add too much
I'm not struggling with it.

Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
If we refuse to stand on faith and resist till he flees?
He will struggle with you.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood.
Stick with what it says when its not convenient.