Was the Darkness that came upon the land at the cross localised or worldwide?

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Blain

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Thanks Blain, for posting the verses of interest to you. It seems that you are looking for physical signs or physical phenomenon, and that you are wondering if they will happen and if they will be what is seen physically in an end-times scenario.

I tend to read the Bible in a different way generally. Just as the parable of the sower gave a physical story of a person sowing seed to illustrate what was the real meaning, a spiritual meaning of God sending forth his word. In the same way, I tend to look at the Bible as physical stories that have a spiritual meaning. For example, to me the city of Jerusalem is a picture of all true believers and would not be something that you could point to on a map, once interpreted. In similar sense, when the great city Ninevah repented of sin, and God did not destroy them, I see this as a picture of all believers who repent, and I am not that interested in the ancient city on a map. Owing to the fact that Revelation and other seeming end-time Bible verses have plenty of physical phenomenon associated with them, I spend my time trying to understand what the picture is pointing to as the spiritual reality. An earthquake, for example, might be talking about the shaking of those spirits and ideas which are not aligned with the gospel. When a city falls, it might be describing the spiritual collapse rather than the physical collapse.

I see the above verses that you have given, and see them relating to the absence of Christ's atoning sacrifice, or relating to the time when Christ became sin for our sakes, or relating to the end time scenario of salvation being absent in some form or for some people. Whether a physical solar eclipse is really what is being described I could not say. But, the Jews of Jesus' day certainly seemed to be looking for a physical king and a physical kingdom and even tried to make Jesus a physical king by force. Surprisingly, he came as a spiritual king whose kingdom was not of this world.

The Bible encourages us to keep our faith in Christ, and those who are in Christ's hands of salvation will be saved.
It could be symbolic or it could be something else, there have been plenty of blood moons and solar eclipses but in revelation it speaks of both things yet it must be something quite profound to be mentioned because I think it must be a supernatural event otherwise it would just be another blood moon or solar eclipse so the darkness that makes the sun not give it's light must be something else perhaps like how it became total darkness form three hours when Christ was on the cross that darkness was not normal either
 

lrs68

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Mathew 27 49 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
According to the early Christian scholar Julius Africanus, Thallus apparently refers, in the third book of his histories, to the darkness at the time of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and explained it away as a solar eclipse; there is a range of interpretations on the matter.

The importance of the account given by the Greek Historian Thallus is very important because he was alive and experienced the darkness that covered the earth. But more importantly is that while Jesus was on the Cross in Israel during the darkness, Thallus was in Greece.

So that's at least darkness from Israel to Greece.

I would then guess that we could say if Israel is the central point and it reached Greece. Then going in a full circumference it most likely covered to England, Africa, Asia, the entire Middle East.

P.S.
If we had a written account of darkness reaching the Northern portion of Russia then we could say it might have also covered the undiscovered Americas {North, Central, South}.
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That's just a guess..
 

homwardbound

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Mathew 27 49 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
However, it was right there in front of all the people that saw Jesus crucified
As one account in the Bible said
this is God, He is from God. I know this, if I were there and saw this, I would change my mind from unbelief to belief in God. Then if I saw the risen son three days after death as risen. And told he look all sin away in his death first, ready to give new life to all that believe it is done for them to now .love all in mercy too. I would believe, I did not see it physically, yet I believe the accounts from the disciples and believe what Jesus said to Thomas who had to see to believe.
I say, thank you Father God and Son as won. seeing, saw by Faith given me to see from God Father in risen Son I saw, see to start listening to God and Son as Won to see to love all the same as he did going to that cross willingly without a flesh fight back at all
"Nevertheless" Father not my will, your will be done.
How many of us can grow up enough to say that in all things bad that happen to us? I know we can when things seem going well. Not so much when getting whipped, beat up and scourged can we?
Therefore, does it matter if it was the entire world or over there where what was happening there that all there could see, well could't see until new life gets given them too from. God Father in risen Son. Where the new born new life begins.

Seeing death had to happen first reads acts 1 after risen what he said to the disciples he had to go through death once for all first, willingly