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That leaves most of the doctrine Jesus gave us out
Trusting, you will read the entire long reply I stated here for yours and everyones joy in what got done for us all by the Son
Love to all, for Love (God's) is what is given that overcame evil is it not? Jesus, going to that cross once for us all to first take away the sin of the world in Daddy's sight once for us all, to decide to believe God or not as it is done for us to be new in his risen Life, not by self work at all, I see this presently, after a long walk off a short pier daily? The truth will set you free in the risen Son for thee.

Love of God supersedes everything else. What is the greatest of Law, is it LOVE?. What goes on forever, it is LOVE correct? 1 Cor 13:13

1 Corinthians 13
Love Is the Greatest
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing. ...

True love is

1 Corinthians 13:4
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
1 Corinthians 13:7
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
Endures, without any anger, amazing and that is the gift given
That love of God can only be given to anyone. (Imputed), "I" am not capable to do it of me ever and have tried, have you? I get you have too and are, as I see this in you too, and thank you by this wanting to do, one does eventually come to see it is all God and none of themselves, at least me seeing this now. Thanking God for this love and mercy, wow!

The Love of Son going to that cross to take away sin first, for us all to be reconciled in as forgiven, does the changing. Trying to do the Law does not do that. Trying to do the Law, upsets, frustrates, impregnates thoughts of evil appearing as good and are not good at all. and the thoughts of to self and others as well, becomes, stealing, killing and destroying people in general (people not seeing that happening) in thought they got to or else attitudes of the flesh nature from religion doing that to people. Jesus came to earth in the only perfect flesh ever to reconcile us first in his death as reconciled, forgiven, then gives the new life unto those that will not quit belief to see it, even if sin still, God remains faithful, we the people do not! These that believe God in sin as taken away for them too, will learn to let go of sin too, taking no credit to self in leaving sin behind them by God for them in risen Son to them
How many times, have you thought you got it and then saw you do not yet as thought you did? That is like being on a Teeter-Totter, up one day, down the next day. If you on a Teeter-Totter, you might want to ask God what to do, not self or anyone else in religion or anyone else you might admire
God wants to tell you truth personally, "God just loves you"
Then the new will begin in and through you, and that can take a long time to see through it all. Yet it takes working on one thing at a time, not a few or all at once.
to work on more than one thing at a time brings on confusion and then depression and then worry and anger and arguing over things
Be glad you in with Father and Son as Won for you to see through it all without guilt or pride in your way anymore
that is what all are learning from God who seals all that choose to believe God. come to see
Accepted
Forgiven
Sealed
All done by God for them to have a personal relationship in love and mercy given them and then do the same as given you to others as well.
Love to you brother is the call for us all to stand in and rest in Thanksgiving and praise
The Jail help where Paul was jailed at. Saw Paul rejoicing, not condemning anyone, rejoicing. That love of God that permeated through Paul, that the jail help saw, converted them not convicted them
Converted, who goes to jail and still praises God?
I see this as well, when Saul (before Paul) saw Stephan go to his death willingly, right in front of him, perplexed him and then that road to Damascus

God, seeks those that are willing, which I see you are willing and yet caught up under Law, in process learning. the difference between Law and grace of God given you too as many are doing the same, I did it for a long while before ever seeing through the veil. I am trusting you to see this truth personally between God and you too, thank you
 
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Trusting, you will read the entire long reply I stated here for yours and everyones joy in what got done for us all by the Son
Love to all, for Love (God's) is what is given that overcame evil is it not? Jesus, going to that cross once for us all to first take away the sin of the world in Daddy's sight once for us all, to decide to believe God or not as it is done for us to be new in his risen Life, not by self work at all, I see this presently, after a long walk off a short pier daily? The truth will set you free in the risen Son for thee.

Love of God supersedes everything else. What is the greatest of Law, is it LOVE?. What goes on forever, it is LOVE correct? 1 Cor 13:13

1 Corinthians 13
Love Is the Greatest
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing. ...

True love is

1 Corinthians 13:4
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
1 Corinthians 13:7
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
Endures, without any anger, amazing and that is the gift given
That love of God can only be given to anyone. (Imputed), "I" am not capable to do it of me ever and have tried, have you? I get you have too and are, as I see this in you too, and thank you by this wanting to do, one does eventually come to see it is all God and none of themselves, at least me seeing this now. Thanking God for this love and mercy, wow!

The Love of Son going to that cross to take away sin first, for us all to be reconciled in as forgiven, does the changing. Trying to do the Law does not do that. Trying to do the Law, upsets, frustrates, impregnates thoughts of evil appearing as good and are not good at all. and the thoughts of to self and others as well, becomes, stealing, killing and destroying people in general (people not seeing that happening) in thought they got to or else attitudes of the flesh nature from religion doing that to people. Jesus came to earth in the only perfect flesh ever to reconcile us first in his death as reconciled, forgiven, then gives the new life unto those that will not quit belief to see it, even if sin still, God remains faithful, we the people do not! These that believe God in sin as taken away for them too, will learn to let go of sin too, taking no credit to self in leaving sin behind them by God for them in risen Son to them
How many times, have you thought you got it and then saw you do not yet as thought you did? That is like being on a Teeter-Totter, up one day, down the next day. If you on a Teeter-Totter, you might want to ask God what to do, not self or anyone else in religion or anyone else you might admire
God wants to tell you truth personally, "God just loves you"
Then the new will begin in and through you, and that can take a long time to see through it all. Yet it takes working on one thing at a time, not a few or all at once.
to work on more than one thing at a time brings on confusion and then depression and then worry and anger and arguing over things
Be glad you in with Father and Son as Won for you to see through it all without guilt or pride in your way anymore
that is what all are learning from God who seals all that choose to believe God. come to see
Accepted
Forgiven
Sealed
All done by God for them to have a personal relationship in love and mercy given them and then do the same as given you to others as well.
Love to you brother is the call for us all to stand in and rest in Thanksgiving and praise
The Jail help where Paul was jailed at. Saw Paul rejoicing, not condemning anyone, rejoicing. That love of God that permeated through Paul, that the jail help saw, converted them not convicted them
Converted, who goes to jail and still praises God?
I see this as well, when Saul (before Paul) saw Stephan go to his death willingly, right in front of him, perplexed him and then that road to Damascus

God, seeks those that are willing, which I see you are willing and yet caught up under Law, in process learning. the difference between Law and grace of God given you too as many are doing the same, I did it for a long while before ever seeing through the veil. I am trusting you to see this truth personally between God and you too, thank you
Yeah we need to hear what Jesus said about being saved though Is the thing. he teaches what he teaches and it won’t ever change….
 

Karlon

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MAybe you have seen it in your life or part of the world.

Havent seen it yet.

For Jesus followers to reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of Him and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Where his followers are no longer infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.


I keep looking , hoping.

His kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven is what we pray for
that sounds like only heaven will be such a place.
 
Oct 24, 2012
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Yeah we need to hear what Jesus said about being saved though Is the thing. he teaches what he teaches and it won’t ever change….
He taught Love all, being first under the Law to fulfill the Law of Moses first in truth

I saw, I had some problems in me
they were troubles, over others that had done me wrong and others that I loved as well, that had been done wrong also. We became a click of people better than other people.

I heard love all, and I saw "I" couldn't, I need God's take over process to teach me new, in love to all, regardless what another person has ever done to me or not and anyone else.
I see, that is what God did once for everyone in willingly going to that cross for us all to reconcile us all first as forgiven 100% from God.
That is what got done, when Jesus yelled it is finished, he completed the work needed
Then gave up his Ghost,
Physically dead for three days, preaching to the Spirits in Prison, (Hebrews 11) Then these in belief were risen as you have pointed out in Matthew 27
Christ won for us Brother in love and mercy to us to be thankful for it and not have to be under Law anymore. Yet, Religion preaches we do have to be, even though it is done for us to be new in love to all the same as is done by Son for all

Love to all is the call, it is by trust to Father one stands in love e to all, since god did that by Son once for us all at least me, thanks as we each grow in this amazing grace gift

I lost the angst I had besetting me that was in me. God poured out God's grace and smothered it out. I do not know how else to state this amazing grace, it just is what it is
Thanks
 
Oct 24, 2012
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1 Corinthians 16:9
for a wide door for effective work has opened to me, and there are many adversaries.
2 Corinthians 6:11
We have spoken freely to you, Corinthians; our heart is wide open.
2 Corinthians 6:13
In return (I speak as to children) widen your hearts also.
Romans 13:10
Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

I can't change past, I can't predict future, I can rest in trust to God Father in risen Son that all will pass and I shall be safe standing the present given by God Father and Son only
To see to put behind me, whatever is behind me, faster than a heart beat past is past. Future not here yet, except in the present second, see the present from God y'all
God continues to love us all to love all back as are loved
1 John 4:10
In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Hebrews 1:9
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
John 15:9
As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love.
John 15:12
“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.
John 16:27
for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.
John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that youhave given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.
John 17:26
I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

Love all permeates, through the new born again children of God. It is a learning new process that is a gift from God, who does not give up on anyone ever at least me I see after years of sin, that continued even after belief to see. I hated sin, hate sin and yet as in Romans 7, I continued in Sin. as Paul talks of and separates flesh and Spirit there for us to see it is not us doing the sin, it is the sin that dwells in the unredeemed flesh, that can not ever please Father ever Romans 8:1-3
I cannot claim that I will never sin again. I can trust God to take that out of the way and see new in God's Spirit and Truth only reckoning self dead to sin as in Romans 6 tells me of the transformation that God imputes in his children to see and be moved away from pride and guilt any longer the the Law puts people in
Trust God and see new and be floored too, thank you
 
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1 Peter 1:

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently
.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Sep 2, 2020
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#27
He taught Love all, being first under the Law to fulfill the Law of Moses first in truth

I saw, I had some problems in me
they were troubles, over others that had done me wrong and others that I loved as well, that had been done wrong also. We became a click of people better than other people.

I heard love all, and I saw "I" couldn't, I need God's take over process to teach me new, in love to all, regardless what another person has ever done to me or not and anyone else.
I see, that is what God did once for everyone in willingly going to that cross for us all to reconcile us all first as forgiven 100% from God.
That is what got done, when Jesus yelled it is finished, he completed the work needed
Then gave up his Ghost,
Physically dead for three days, preaching to the Spirits in Prison, (Hebrews 11) Then these in belief were risen as you have pointed out in Matthew 27
Christ won for us Brother in love and mercy to us to be thankful for it and not have to be under Law anymore. Yet, Religion preaches we do have to be, even though it is done for us to be new in love to all the same as is done by Son for all

Love to all is the call, it is by trust to Father one stands in love e to all, since god did that by Son once for us all at least me, thanks as we each grow in this amazing grace gift

I lost the angst I had besetting me that was in me. God poured out God's grace and smothered it out. I do not know how else to state this amazing grace, it just is what it is
Thanks
that’s good brother.

“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:2-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment,

it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13:8-10‬ ‭KJV

“And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:24‬ ‭