Visualization in Prayer
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None that were given that prayer ( gentiles) Pay attention.. Did he tell a gentile to prayer that way ? verse please? Where s the verse where he s teaching Gentiles please ( like we see given to his Jewish diciples ..who in turn are also only teaching Jews . Dont give me " but he healed this ...and he said that..."
that is your entire argument, but it's been destroyed through scripture.
God is our Father. God knows all things, including our needs and desires, before we can even utter them.
why don't you give us what exactly it is in Matthew 6 / Luke 11 you think is *wrong* for a Christian to do, unless He has Jewish flesh?
can you do that? or is there really no specific objection at all, you just want to encourage us not to listen to the words of Jesus as though they are meaningful for us?
God is our Father. God knows all things, including our needs and desires, before we can even utter them.
why don't you give us what exactly it is in Matthew 6 / Luke 11 you think is *wrong* for a Christian to do, unless He has Jewish flesh?
can you do that? or is there really no specific objection at all, you just want to encourage us not to listen to the words of Jesus as though they are meaningful for us?
previously covered; your arguments are immaterial to the text.
God did not say, "if and only if you are in the flesh as Hebrews, pray like this"
God said "because the Father already knows what you need, pray like this"
this is easy, m8.
you basically have no argument at all.
God did not say, "if and only if you are in the flesh as Hebrews, pray like this"
God said "because the Father already knows what you need, pray like this"
this is easy, m8.
- is God your Father?
- does God know all things?
you basically have no argument at all.
I'm well aware of the approach to scripture that looks like ' a saw a boy of 5 do 100 back flips in a row, therefore all 5 year old boys can do 100 back flips in a row .
Famously Calvinists do this. " Lydia's ' heart was opened by God ,therefore all hearts have to be opened by God in this exact way otherwise they cannot hear the gospel. " God determined the crucifixion , therefore God determined the conversation I had at the grocery store yesterday ' . " Jesus said to Peter , therefore Jesus is speaking to us all as we're diciples to, ,' Yes I know it says Israel, but as we are grafted in therfore we can claim all those things said to Israel " , " The bible doesn't say we can't pray to Mary ...therfore..on and on and on ....
Famously Calvinists do this. " Lydia's ' heart was opened by God ,therefore all hearts have to be opened by God in this exact way otherwise they cannot hear the gospel. " God determined the crucifixion , therefore God determined the conversation I had at the grocery store yesterday ' . " Jesus said to Peter , therefore Jesus is speaking to us all as we're diciples to, ,' Yes I know it says Israel, but as we are grafted in therfore we can claim all those things said to Israel " , " The bible doesn't say we can't pray to Mary ...therfore..on and on and on ....
yeah i agree with that, to a point. the scripture has a lot to intimate about mankind in general, and that stuff, yeah, it fits.
what we ought to understand is that if we 'find ourselves in the Bible' it's usually the most unflattering person or aspect of the passage.
like here:
oops you think this is meaningless, sorry.
okay pretend you are carnally of Jewish fleshly descent.
now it means something ((lol?))
what we ought to understand is that if we 'find ourselves in the Bible' it's usually the most unflattering person or aspect of the passage.
like here:
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
(Matthew 7:11)
that's us, right there: "ye, being evil"oops you think this is meaningless, sorry.
okay pretend you are carnally of Jewish fleshly descent.
now it means something ((lol?))
