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It's really about discernment, or more accurately, the lack thereof. I think many of the vaxxed, if truth be told, KNOW that there is something terribly, even fatally wrong with the gene therapy.
But they have taken it.
They cannot accept the truth. It is far too damning for them. It is better to defend the huge mistake they have made, than face the reality that the "vaccine' is slowly going to kill many of them, AND has quickly killed many others. That's why they have to keep moving the goalposts. First, the vaccine was going to make them immune! No more masks! Woo Hoo!
Then the lie is exposed and that it doesn't stop you at all from both getting, and spreading the virus.
Then we get "well sure you can still GET it and SPREAD it, but it's not that bad if you do".
As weird diseases and cancers, clots, heart attacks auto immune diseases and more, form all over their bodies they will STILL deny it has anything to do with the vaccine, and blame and hate those who KNEW it was a lethal injection all the more.
Hence, you get COUNTLESS stories like this:
Young healthy mother dies from Covid Vaccine — And Twitter Nazis labeled her obituary as ‘misleading’…
https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
But they have taken it.
They cannot accept the truth. It is far too damning for them. It is better to defend the huge mistake they have made, than face the reality that the "vaccine' is slowly going to kill many of them, AND has quickly killed many others. That's why they have to keep moving the goalposts. First, the vaccine was going to make them immune! No more masks! Woo Hoo!
Then the lie is exposed and that it doesn't stop you at all from both getting, and spreading the virus.
Then we get "well sure you can still GET it and SPREAD it, but it's not that bad if you do".
As weird diseases and cancers, clots, heart attacks auto immune diseases and more, form all over their bodies they will STILL deny it has anything to do with the vaccine, and blame and hate those who KNEW it was a lethal injection all the more.
Hence, you get COUNTLESS stories like this:
Young healthy mother dies from Covid Vaccine — And Twitter Nazis labeled her obituary as ‘misleading’…
https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
It's really about discernment, or more accurately, the lack thereof. I think many of the vaxxed, if truth be told, KNOW that there is something terribly, even fatally wrong with the gene therapy.
But they have taken it.
They cannot accept the truth. It is far too damning for them. It is better to defend the huge mistake they have made, than face the reality that the "vaccine' is slowly going to kill many of them, AND has quickly killed many others. That's why they have to keep moving the goalposts. First, the vaccine was going to make them immune! No more masks! Woo Hoo!
Then the lie is exposed and that it doesn't stop you at all from both getting, and spreading the virus.
Then we get "well sure you can still GET it and SPREAD it, but it's not that bad if you do".
As weird diseases and cancers, clots, heart attacks auto immune diseases and more, form all over their bodies they will STILL deny it has anything to do with the vaccine, and blame and hate those who KNEW it was a lethal injection all the more.
Hence, you get COUNTLESS stories like this:
Young healthy mother dies from Covid Vaccine — And Twitter Nazis labeled her obituary as ‘misleading’…
https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
But they have taken it.
They cannot accept the truth. It is far too damning for them. It is better to defend the huge mistake they have made, than face the reality that the "vaccine' is slowly going to kill many of them, AND has quickly killed many others. That's why they have to keep moving the goalposts. First, the vaccine was going to make them immune! No more masks! Woo Hoo!
Then the lie is exposed and that it doesn't stop you at all from both getting, and spreading the virus.
Then we get "well sure you can still GET it and SPREAD it, but it's not that bad if you do".
As weird diseases and cancers, clots, heart attacks auto immune diseases and more, form all over their bodies they will STILL deny it has anything to do with the vaccine, and blame and hate those who KNEW it was a lethal injection all the more.
Hence, you get COUNTLESS stories like this:
Young healthy mother dies from Covid Vaccine — And Twitter Nazis labeled her obituary as ‘misleading’…
https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obituaries/oregon/name/jessica-wilson-obituary?pid=200278331
or they did not know better.
Gene Therapy is inept due to thinking everything surrounds the Process of Evolution.
But MASKING Genetics, is based solely upon the entire Human Population and Race.
Gene Therapy believes DNA can be changed when out of literally MILLIONS of Lab Trials it's FAILED 100% every time.
But MASKING Genetics, does nothing to the Genetics itself but pretends like it is Covid.
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Well, i mentioned in the past several times that i am a nurse (male).
I am not working on the intensiv care ward. Thats why i give not my meaning, but the meaning of those which working their and express their feelings about covid deneyers.
The meaning is free, so also a meaning which is not supporting your view. The same with your meaning. I dont attack you because of your meaning about the vaxx.
Every coin has two sides. And it is not correct to look only on one side.
In your eyes that what i wrote is ridicolous. Thats your right.
But I must not see your view as truth. Special not then when it is based in not proofed claimes.
Maby i do not understand that the situation in germany is totaly different to the situation in the states. But the vaccine are the same.
Independ of your view about vaccine or anything else we are in one family if we belong to Christ. Right?
I am not working on the intensiv care ward. Thats why i give not my meaning, but the meaning of those which working their and express their feelings about covid deneyers.
The meaning is free, so also a meaning which is not supporting your view. The same with your meaning. I dont attack you because of your meaning about the vaxx.
Every coin has two sides. And it is not correct to look only on one side.
In your eyes that what i wrote is ridicolous. Thats your right.
But I must not see your view as truth. Special not then when it is based in not proofed claimes.
Maby i do not understand that the situation in germany is totaly different to the situation in the states. But the vaccine are the same.
Independ of your view about vaccine or anything else we are in one family if we belong to Christ. Right?
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well if you are a nurse, good. I really thought you had said otherwise, but I can be wrong...so if you say you are a nurse, then that is what you are
you say you don't attack, but you most certainly do 'attack'....
the vaccines are not the same. there are different kinds and only 1 has FDA approval in this country and not even the current one being used, (the one that will be used is supposed to be the same but not yet available as the current one is still under supposed emergency use )so no one can sue the drug company for anything that goes wrong. thing is, you come to this forum and try to tell Americans what they should think and you poo poo any evidence that shows disagreement with what you believe
we are not going to Germany and telling you how it is...you come here and try to insert yourself as though you were the expert on all things. no one is
don't tell me 'in my eyes' or try to say what I am thinking. you really are quite dictatorial and seem to think you can just push yourself on everyone and we should have no other thought but what you say
and again, the vaccines are not the same.
you say you don't attack, but you most certainly do 'attack'....
the vaccines are not the same. there are different kinds and only 1 has FDA approval in this country and not even the current one being used, (the one that will be used is supposed to be the same but not yet available as the current one is still under supposed emergency use )so no one can sue the drug company for anything that goes wrong. thing is, you come to this forum and try to tell Americans what they should think and you poo poo any evidence that shows disagreement with what you believe
we are not going to Germany and telling you how it is...you come here and try to insert yourself as though you were the expert on all things. no one is
don't tell me 'in my eyes' or try to say what I am thinking. you really are quite dictatorial and seem to think you can just push yourself on everyone and we should have no other thought but what you say
and again, the vaccines are not the same.
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don't start with me Angela. your little x's are childish...no one is even bothering to do that anymore..
you insert yourself also and pop in and out and your circumstances are an exception to most people
PLUS you are not in the US and you still have your own dictator to live with, so maybe take care of that
I see you are very busy...do you have something to say?
you insert yourself also and pop in and out and your circumstances are an exception to most people
PLUS you are not in the US and you still have your own dictator to live with, so maybe take care of that
I see you are very busy...do you have something to say?
Sister when I have attacked you personaly or made jokes about you and your view.?
Only because telling the view I got from what I read in the posts of the brothers and sisters which are against the vaccine?
I try to respond from my knowledge and expierience I made in this nearly 2 years of Covid. And i questioning the claimes which are made about the vaccine. I ask for proofs, but dont got them.
If brothers claimes that 65% of the vaccined people will die, or 99% of the pcr Tests giving false result,or the vaccine is made for depopulate the world or the vaccine changes our dna? Should I be silent, because i am not an American? I gave non of you an advise what you have to do or to believe in america.
Would you say the vaccine against flu is an vaccine?
What a vaccine should do? It should create antibodys and renemering cells against f.e. a virus, so that the body will know if the virus is atticking how to fight against it. There are some b
Virus types you need some basic vaccines and it will last long time in your antibodys in your body ( tetanus) you need from time to time an single injection to stimulate for producing enough antibodys.
For the flu its the same., but you need yearly an new vaccine, because of the Variation of the virus and the antlbodys dont exist so long in your body
Nothing different it is with the vaccine against Sars-coV-2. New is the way how they produce it. Time is going forward also the methods to create something. Good or not good is an different question
Only because telling the view I got from what I read in the posts of the brothers and sisters which are against the vaccine?
I try to respond from my knowledge and expierience I made in this nearly 2 years of Covid. And i questioning the claimes which are made about the vaccine. I ask for proofs, but dont got them.
If brothers claimes that 65% of the vaccined people will die, or 99% of the pcr Tests giving false result,or the vaccine is made for depopulate the world or the vaccine changes our dna? Should I be silent, because i am not an American? I gave non of you an advise what you have to do or to believe in america.
Would you say the vaccine against flu is an vaccine?
What a vaccine should do? It should create antibodys and renemering cells against f.e. a virus, so that the body will know if the virus is atticking how to fight against it. There are some b
Virus types you need some basic vaccines and it will last long time in your antibodys in your body ( tetanus) you need from time to time an single injection to stimulate for producing enough antibodys.
For the flu its the same., but you need yearly an new vaccine, because of the Variation of the virus and the antlbodys dont exist so long in your body
Nothing different it is with the vaccine against Sars-coV-2. New is the way how they produce it. Time is going forward also the methods to create something. Good or not good is an different question
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It's hard to believe you are a Christian. You are point blank saying Aiden is a liar. You are putting words in his mouth, if what he should have said. Talk about no choice!!
He told me last year he was a nurse. Just when COVID was starting, and we were talking about what was happening. However, he was too humble to mention he was a head nurse, and responsible for many people and organizing many things.
I am shocked you are so insulting, which you have been for pages and pages. Just because Aiden is from Germany, doesn't mean he is less than Americans. Same goes for me. You better go repent and get right with God!
As far as vaccine mandates, I am against them. I think people need autonomy to control their own bodies. Even if the vax worked 100%, there would still be people who could not take it. People who are allergic to the medium of the vax, or have had bad reactions to vaccines.
But, that doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE amount of misinformation and lies being propagated on the internet, including this forum. Or utter absurdities like you can lose your salvation from taking the vax, as this thread started out with. Ridiculous, bad theology.
I had such a bad reaction to the flu shot, I was told by a doctor to never get it again in 1986. I never did, and I have never gotten the flu. When this whole COVID vax came up, I was really torn. Would it be bad for me, or was COVID a worse threat?
That is what it really boils down to for all of us! Which is worse for us, the vax or COVID? My doctors, esp., my rheumatologist, felt with my compromised immune system, I needed the vax. I was given priority to get it.
But I had read so much propaganda, I was literally terrified. But, I started reading more, and realized that most of the propaganda against the vaccine was outright lies.
I'm not saying the vax is without problems. Certainly people have had bad side effects, and some have died. That is why I am against compulsory mandates. No one should be forced to get a shot which will harm them more than what the shot is for!
But, I had to reflect that my lungs are very damaged, from repeated pneumonias. The CT scans of my lungs read "scarred and damaged!" However, because of proper masking, and not getting a cold turning into pneumonia, my last scan showed my lungs had improved tremendously - the bottoms were dry, and functioning again.
I have heart damage from RA attacking my heart. When I got my shots, it was not knowing the shots can damage the heart. Although, COVID does too! I read an article yesterday saying one hockey player from the Edmonton Oilers got heart damage from COVID, and may not play again! So 6 of one, or half a dozen of the other.
Meanwhile, I had hidden at home for a year, when the vax came out. I was living in terrible anxiety, which is not me. I am not an anxious person. I got my first shot & half the anxiety was gone. Second shot, the anxiety was gone. I am at least partially protected, hopefully I won't get COVID pneumonia, which would kill me.
I haven't been offered the third vax in my province yet. The roll out is slow. I will re-evaluate whether to get it, as everyone should. Most of my RA friends have gotten the third booster already. But, I want to review the literature first. Esp for my cohort, which is the immune suppressed!
So, I believe in the freedom for people to choose whether to take the vaccine or not! I am against the vax propaganda and lies, esp from anti-vaxers. No more lies! I have taken 2 vaccines and had no reaction at all. The needle hurt less than my weekly injection of a biologic.
I wonder if people will jump on me and attack me, like they did with Aiden & EG? There is a reason I don't come here much anymore. It's because there is so little Christianity found in the words of people. I can praise God for how he has helped me during this pandemic. But the constant anger, pettiness, cruelty and unChristlike behaviour of some people, means this forum is no longer a good place to learn and grow. Now you know!
He told me last year he was a nurse. Just when COVID was starting, and we were talking about what was happening. However, he was too humble to mention he was a head nurse, and responsible for many people and organizing many things.
I am shocked you are so insulting, which you have been for pages and pages. Just because Aiden is from Germany, doesn't mean he is less than Americans. Same goes for me. You better go repent and get right with God!
As far as vaccine mandates, I am against them. I think people need autonomy to control their own bodies. Even if the vax worked 100%, there would still be people who could not take it. People who are allergic to the medium of the vax, or have had bad reactions to vaccines.
But, that doesn't mean there isn't a HUGE amount of misinformation and lies being propagated on the internet, including this forum. Or utter absurdities like you can lose your salvation from taking the vax, as this thread started out with. Ridiculous, bad theology.
I had such a bad reaction to the flu shot, I was told by a doctor to never get it again in 1986. I never did, and I have never gotten the flu. When this whole COVID vax came up, I was really torn. Would it be bad for me, or was COVID a worse threat?
That is what it really boils down to for all of us! Which is worse for us, the vax or COVID? My doctors, esp., my rheumatologist, felt with my compromised immune system, I needed the vax. I was given priority to get it.
But I had read so much propaganda, I was literally terrified. But, I started reading more, and realized that most of the propaganda against the vaccine was outright lies.
I'm not saying the vax is without problems. Certainly people have had bad side effects, and some have died. That is why I am against compulsory mandates. No one should be forced to get a shot which will harm them more than what the shot is for!
But, I had to reflect that my lungs are very damaged, from repeated pneumonias. The CT scans of my lungs read "scarred and damaged!" However, because of proper masking, and not getting a cold turning into pneumonia, my last scan showed my lungs had improved tremendously - the bottoms were dry, and functioning again.
I have heart damage from RA attacking my heart. When I got my shots, it was not knowing the shots can damage the heart. Although, COVID does too! I read an article yesterday saying one hockey player from the Edmonton Oilers got heart damage from COVID, and may not play again! So 6 of one, or half a dozen of the other.
Meanwhile, I had hidden at home for a year, when the vax came out. I was living in terrible anxiety, which is not me. I am not an anxious person. I got my first shot & half the anxiety was gone. Second shot, the anxiety was gone. I am at least partially protected, hopefully I won't get COVID pneumonia, which would kill me.
I haven't been offered the third vax in my province yet. The roll out is slow. I will re-evaluate whether to get it, as everyone should. Most of my RA friends have gotten the third booster already. But, I want to review the literature first. Esp for my cohort, which is the immune suppressed!
So, I believe in the freedom for people to choose whether to take the vaccine or not! I am against the vax propaganda and lies, esp from anti-vaxers. No more lies! I have taken 2 vaccines and had no reaction at all. The needle hurt less than my weekly injection of a biologic.
I wonder if people will jump on me and attack me, like they did with Aiden & EG? There is a reason I don't come here much anymore. It's because there is so little Christianity found in the words of people. I can praise God for how he has helped me during this pandemic. But the constant anger, pettiness, cruelty and unChristlike behaviour of some people, means this forum is no longer a good place to learn and grow. Now you know!
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no I don't need yearly vaccines
would you take it if you broke out in hives that lasted over 2 years?
you make everything personal and that is why you just cannot let it go
if you can post your opinions, you cannot tell others what they post is nonsense
the vaccine for covid is NOT currently approved by the FDA here so why would anyone take it? it is approved for emergency only
the one that is approved, is not currently available, but is supposed to be the same. so why, a person might ask, is that so? the current vaccine is again, approved for emergency only so no one can sue Pfizer or any other company that has a vaccine in use
that speaks volumes. every one of these companies have been sued multiple times, but now they have carte blanche until the other vaccine kicks in
would you take it if you broke out in hives that lasted over 2 years?
you make everything personal and that is why you just cannot let it go
if you can post your opinions, you cannot tell others what they post is nonsense
the vaccine for covid is NOT currently approved by the FDA here so why would anyone take it? it is approved for emergency only
the one that is approved, is not currently available, but is supposed to be the same. so why, a person might ask, is that so? the current vaccine is again, approved for emergency only so no one can sue Pfizer or any other company that has a vaccine in use
that speaks volumes. every one of these companies have been sued multiple times, but now they have carte blanche until the other vaccine kicks in
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you are overstepping here Angela
you are not my go to source for info. or opinion
I have heard so much about your illness and I have never had anything but sympathy for you
that does not give you the right to bully people as you do or question whether or not they are a Christian
you cross that line often with others in the BDF and here you are doing it with me
I just lost respect
well that's entirely up to you. be civil and maybe they will just converse with you
you don't have to post about your illness all the time. people back up what they would normally say because they do not want to hurt or offend you, so that is not fair. you get away with bullying
kindly take it elsewhere. I just learned that you will say whatever to people that you know can stand their ground in your desire to push them over
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you are not my go to source for info. or opinion
I have heard so much about your illness and I have never had anything but sympathy for you
that does not give you the right to bully people as you do or question whether or not they are a Christian
you cross that line often with others in the BDF and here you are doing it with me
I just lost respect
well that's entirely up to you. be civil and maybe they will just converse with you
you don't have to post about your illness all the time. people back up what they would normally say because they do not want to hurt or offend you, so that is not fair. you get away with bullying
kindly take it elsewhere. I just learned that you will say whatever to people that you know can stand their ground in your desire to push them over
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