Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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John146

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Some people suffer some side effects. It is the same will all medications. Some people in certain age groups, very few by percentage, suffer blood clots from Astra Zeneca. I've had two jabs and I'm perfectly well. So are the vast majority of people who have been vaccinated with any of the approved vaccines.

Total Australian deaths from COVID about 1,800. Total US deaths 762,000. If Australia's death rate v population was the same ratio as the USA, at least 180,000 people would have died. That's conservative, the US population is more than 10 x Australia.

Some vaccinated people have died from COVID. Mostly they are immune system compromised and any infection would be dangerous.

Blood under a microscope is not the same as blood in the human body. It is not circulating, there are no inbuilt protections such as the body generates and no healing mechanisms.

I am against mandatory vaccination. I'm also against fear mongering and fake news masquerading as facts.
And yet, you state 762,000 deaths from COVID as fact. Did every one of these die of COVID? Or did the majority of these die with COVID?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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further proof you should not trust anything you see on the internet.

This is what the antitrump people did for 4 years. And the same people using this same sort of tactic is now doing what they yelled at anti trump group.
Why would "anything on the internet" be false by default?
That's MSM propaganda. They are against everything that exposes their lies and manipulations.
They were certainly never a friend of Pr Trump.
The internet was, many times the only place his unedited comments could be found.

If you want to read from the accepted script that's your choice.
Internet sources remain a viable alternative I will use for the time being.




 

Nehemiah6

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And yet, you state 762,000 deaths from COVID as fact. Did every one of these die of COVID? Or did the majority of these die with COVID?
BIG DIFFERENCE between "from" (of) and "with". In the USA you can cancel 94% of the bogus COVID deaths as admitted by lying and cheating CDC. And Italy just cancelled 97% of those deaths after waking up. Now if you take the REAL deaths and divide them by the total population, they can all be ignored (just like flu deaths were ignored for ages).

Now CDC has admitted -- on official letterhead -- that no unvaccinated person has ever infected someone else. You will find the article on WND News.

"In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID."

So what we have been seeing since January 2020 (almost two years now) is scam, after scam, after scam from all the public health agencies. Yet people are still wearing masks and getting jabbed. China, Fauci, and all the COVID conspirators were hoping to make this man-made bioweapon coronavirus as deadly as Ebola. When that failed, they decided to make the bogus "vaccines" more deadly. And that has worked.
 

Sipsey

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There are many sides to this debate. There are good, bad, and downright ugly perspectives presented. My grandson goes to a local Children’s Hospital periodically for checkups as the result of his leukemia diagnosis and treatments 8 years ago. The Doctors and nurses are some of the most dedicated and compassionate humans Ive ever met. They pray for these kids daily. Many don't make, but a lot, like my grandson survive.

According to some here, for them to have the audacity to recommend these kids get the covid vaccine is pure evil. For others they see it as a compassionate plea. For my grandson they said a consult with his immunologist is the correct path. They have seen little in the way of reactions in the many kids they have given the shots so far.

For those that see conspiracies everywhere, these Doctors and nurses are just a cog in the evil machine.

It’s sad that so many are caught up in such distractions.
 

Aidan1

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BIG DIFFERENCE between "from" (of) and "with". In the USA you can cancel 94% of the bogus COVID deaths as admitted by lying and cheating CDC. And Italy just cancelled 97% of those deaths after waking up. Now if you take the REAL deaths and divide them by the total population, they can all be ignored (just like flu deaths were ignored for ages).

Now CDC has admitted -- on official letterhead -- that no unvaccinated person has ever infected someone else. You will find the article on WND News.

"In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID."

So what we have been seeing since January 2020 (almost two years now) is scam, after scam, after scam from all the public health agencies. Yet people are still wearing masks and getting jabbed. China, Fauci, and all the COVID conspirators were hoping to make this man-made bioweapon coronavirus as deadly as Ebola. When that failed, they decided to make the bogus "vaccines" more deadly. And that has worked.
I realy dont know where you live Nehemiah6, maby you live in a place where there is no Covid. It may be such places. Then be glad.
About the numbers in Italy. You cant tell me and the italian press cant also not do. They and you did made no autopsy of all the dead people. And when they would do, they can only would found that the virus is be there. But they can not find out if the virus was the cause for the deadt or not.
Medicals know from living people that the virus is attacking the heart and also the vasculare system. Now you will tell me this is no problem for the people?
Is there any proof that this "97%" of people would stay alive without the virus? If there is no proof then the virus is the cause of their death, doesnt matter how you define it.
Btw, you know Romans 8, 35-39., correct?
No virus and no vaccine can seperate us from the love of Christ!
 

soberxp

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I don't think this is a moment of loyalty to express bravery and martyrdom for our kind God.
If you want to express your faith loyalty, this is not a good time,
If you don't know how to protect yourself, you are not helping others, but indirectly murdering others because of your ignorance of the virus.

If you want to die and martyrdom , let Palestine and Israel have peace. Those who make peace will become the children of God
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Still stalking me and trying to bully me I see.
You've stalked and bullied scores of people over the years here.

Your bullying and weak tactics will fail with me. So keep trying and displaying your ignorance,
A video is a video. It matters not at all where it came from. Just the content therein.

Here's another one. With factual, bloodwork proof:

Dr Nathan Thompson Shows The Damage On The Immune System After 2nd COVID Jab


Dr Nathan Thompson’s Jaw DROPPED when he Tested Someone’s Immune System After the 2nd Jab. This proves just how dangerous these covid-19 death shots are and what damage they are doing to your body and why so many people are dying and suffering side effects.

https://rumble.com/vnbqmm-october-4-2021.html
I am not bullying anyone my friend
This is an open forum, If your allowed to post stuff, I am allowed to respond to it.

PS. I had the second jab, My immune system is fine,

You want to believe in right wing extemism and do what the left has been doing for years. Go right ahead.

I will continue to look at reality and not twitter and YouTube for my news
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Don't you think they can know a lot about you just by your cell phone?? Just a question people are asking.
Big daddy watches everything yuo do. They have cameras on every corner. At every stop light. They watch your social media accounts and everything.

You don‘t do really anything big daddy does not know about.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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America is a non-player in end times events, so it has to removed from the world stage.
Its going to remove itself.

Heck China owns us now. If they would cash in to what we owe. We would all have to learn chinese

some one has to pay for the socialist agenda. And the people who work hard to earn a dollar are not going to keep paying for the freeloaders much longer
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Why would "anything on the internet" be false by default?
That's MSM propaganda. They are against everything that exposes their lies and manipulations.
They were certainly never a friend of Pr Trump.
The internet was, many times the only place his unedited comments could be found.


If you want to read from the accepted script that's your choice.
Internet sources remain a viable alternative I will use for the time being.
Yes, they are against anything that supports trump

but what do we see here? People who are against anything that supports Biden, including this vaccine issue.

I am not saying you can not find credible stuff. I am saying how do yu determine who is right and who is wrong, and who is only giving half the story?

You can’t know.

so me personally. I look around me, Like they did for many centuries, before the internet came out and you can make up anything you want to make up and post it as news.

I don;t see the stuff being posted here. And its not like I am blind and not looking. Once thing these posts do, is make me wonder, think and look.

If it was this bad, I would see it.

I know too many close friend, relatives and coworkers who all have recieved at least two of the shots. Many of whom have now gotten the booster (I have not recieved the booster and as of now have no plans to) and I do not see any evidence of the things being shown here as truth.

so do I look at the news?

Or do I look at reality?

I chose to do it the old fashioned way.
 

John146

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"In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID."
Just wanted to repost this:

"In response to attorney’s FOIA request, US CDC admits that it has no record of an unvaccinated person spreading COVID after recovering from COVID."
 

Rosemaryx

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Still stalking me and trying to bully me I see.
You've stalked and bullied scores of people over the years here.

Your bullying and weak tactics will fail with me. So keep trying and displaying your ignorance,
A video is a video. It matters not at all where it came from. Just the content therein.

Here's another one. With factual, bloodwork proof:

Dr Nathan Thompson Shows The Damage On The Immune System After 2nd COVID Jab


Dr Nathan Thompson’s Jaw DROPPED when he Tested Someone’s Immune System After the 2nd Jab. This proves just how dangerous these covid-19 death shots are and what damage they are doing to your body and why so many people are dying and suffering side effects.

https://rumble.com/vnbqmm-october-4-2021.html
Hi @PennEd ...
Thank you for posting this...
I don't often watch the vids , but this one I feel I should...
I am Type 2 diabetic , and apart from my own reasons to stay away from the jab , I also researched it and found that glucose is one of the ingredient's in it , something that is very dangerous for a diabetic...
My body could react and go into a diabetic coma where my organs could shut down due to the glucose raising my sugar , I feel so sad for this man he is talking about who is also type 2...

I have been on a very good keto plan , also changing my way of life , and my body is healing great praise God , my sugars are going down and down...

My immune system is becoming more healthier , and my doctor is behind me , I will not jeopardise that for anything...Thanks once again , this doctor is very humble...
...xox...
 

Aidan1

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I don't think this is a moment of loyalty to express bravery and martyrdom for our kind God.
If you want to express your faith loyalty, this is not a good time,
If you don't know how to protect yourself, you are not helping others, but indirectly murdering others because of your ignorance of the virus.

If you want to die and martyrdom , let Palestine and Israel have peace. Those who make peace will become the children of God
Only for understanding, you wrote this as an comment to my post? If so, then why?
 
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