Vaccination?

[AandW]

There are literally trillions of viruses that we come into contact with on a daily basis.
Then there's the bacteria... again trillions.

Most of these are easy for our bodies to recognize and destroy before they can do anything harmful. You currently live symbiotically with millions of bacteria and viruses now that are actually beneficial to your daily health.

Up to this point the viruses that have plagued mankind have primarily been respiratory system focused because of the chemical makeup of cells in those areas. There are valuable nutrients that these viruses need to reproduce after inserting themselves into the nucleus of a cell.
And that has been solely by divine Providence.

Now we have a virus that focuses on the endocrine system. The endocrine system in people affects EVERY system in your body...not just the respiratory/pulmonary system. Hormones include such things as insulin, adrenaline, thyroid, testosterone, estrogen and multitudes of others.

And as this virus focuses on these systems it damages every organ that produces or is affected by these hormones, Including the nervous system as has been reported by those losing taste and smell. (Brain damage)

That's why this virus is different than the others...yes it is spread by breathing...yes it is different...no we have no long lasting natural immunity to it. They are working on solutions to these issues but it takes time...they have produced some answers in relative lightspeed by comparison to what used to happen.

This pandemic is going to continue to plague us for another year or more. Even then it will continue to have breakouts in places. As it does it will continue to do damage. The newest medicines and vaccines will help... only if you take advantage of them.

Kinda like God's salvation...it only works if you avail yourself of it.

You are like the others just not looking at what I stated and off on your random you go!

I said, there [ARE NO] Documentation from Previous Viruses being able to do what Covid has done.

I never said there were no previous Viruses ever!

 

[AandW]

It's not doing anything it's like there making it up.Or it's making it up.

Exactly!
You get it 100% what i am saying!


But to THEM:
And I just mention that fact and BOOM a bunch of Random Stupidness about there has already been Viruses before covid-19 like we don't already know that boy genius!

But to the boy geniuses, FIND ME DOCUMENTATION OF PRIOR VIRUSES DOING LIKE COVID HAS DONE??

This is where they go back to sticking their heads into the ground BECAUSE THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTATIONS ABOUT PRIOR VIRUSES DOING LIKE COVID...THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HUMANITY HAS SEEN THIS [is my point]!

 

[PennEd]

Make NO mistake. ALL of you that are pushing these “vaccines” are helping Satan build his Antichrist system. Whether you realize it or not. These type of fascistic, authoritarian measures will spread everywhere. Take special note of how “anti- vaxxers are looked upon, called and treated.

"So Deeply, Deeply Wrong" - Lithuanian Without Vaccine Pass Describes Life Under Medical Tyranny

“Principled Covid Pass opposition is caricatured as conspiracy-theorist, anti-vaxxer. Honest debate is dismissed. Mainstream leaders - politicians, officials, media, educated elite - openly wish death upon opponents of the Pass "so we can finally end this pandemic".

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny

 

[AandW]

Make NO mistake. ALL of you that are pushing these “vaccines” are helping Satan build his Antichrist system. Whether you realize it or not. These type of fascistic, authoritarian measures will spread everywhere. Take special note of how “anti- vaxxers are looked upon, called and treated.

"So Deeply, Deeply Wrong" - Lithuanian Without Vaccine Pass Describes Life Under Medical Tyranny

“Principled Covid Pass opposition is caricatured as conspiracy-theorist, anti-vaxxer. Honest debate is dismissed. Mainstream leaders - politicians, officials, media, educated elite - openly wish death upon opponents of the Pass "so we can finally end this pandemic".

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny

Zero Hedge?
Really?

And who is telling others t get Vaxxed?

 

[AandW]

Make NO mistake. ALL of you that are pushing these “vaccines” are helping Satan build his Antichrist system. Whether you realize it or not. These type of fascistic, authoritarian measures will spread everywhere. Take special note of how “anti- vaxxers are looked upon, called and treated.

"So Deeply, Deeply Wrong" - Lithuanian Without Vaccine Pass Describes Life Under Medical Tyranny

“Principled Covid Pass opposition is caricatured as conspiracy-theorist, anti-vaxxer. Honest debate is dismissed. Mainstream leaders - politicians, officials, media, educated elite - openly wish death upon opponents of the Pass "so we can finally end this pandemic".

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...ine-pass-describes-life-under-medical-tyranny

What does this mean from the Article:

In America, the 'my body, my choice' crowd has suddenly invented conditions for their own mantra.[??]

^
Are they saying America is just making things up to not get Vaxxed?

Appears that is what it means!

Does the World see Americans like that [make up stuff to not get vaxxed]??

Interesting!

 

[pottersclay]

For the government to mandate health care and education teachers goes farther than the push, shove, force voice people are hearing about.
Working with the public as they do imo they have become a high risk liability for insurance companies.
Refusing to get the shot for what ever reason opens the doors for personal and corporate law suits.
Let's think this one out for a moment. Both occupations have to deal with face to face hands on situations. Now if I found out that a care taker had been around contagious people all day long and now wants to attend to my needs and I get sick. Well what am I to think other than this care taker who has been in contact and exposed daily to known infected people and refused to get the shot is my most likely choice to point the finger at.

Teachers are in this same scenario.

Hospitals and institutions who work with the public daily need to follow guide lines for health but also for insurance coverage.

I'm not defending the mandates but this has crossed my mind.

 

[PennEd]

For the government to mandate health care and education teachers goes farther than the push, shove, force voice people are hearing about.
Working with the public as they do imo they have become a high risk liability for insurance companies.
Refusing to get the shot for what ever reason opens the doors for personal and corporate law suits.
Let's think this one out for a moment. Both occupations have to deal with face to face hands on situations. Now if I found out that a care taker had been around contagious people all day long and now wants to attend to my needs and I get sick. Well what am I to think other than this care taker who has been in contact and exposed daily to known infected people and refused to get the shot is my most likely choice to point the finger at.

Teachers are in this same scenario.

Hospitals and institutions who work with the public daily need to follow guide lines for health but also for insurance coverage.

I'm not defending the mandates but this has crossed my mind.

You are completely ignoring that vaccinated get and transmit the virus.

You also completely ignore natural immunity.

It is almost as if the vaccinated have become identical to the Borg collective, unable to process facts, and only repeat the mantra fed to them from the narrative.

 

[PennEd]

For the government to mandate health care and education teachers goes farther than the push, shove, force voice people are hearing about.
Working with the public as they do imo they have become a high risk liability for insurance companies.
Refusing to get the shot for what ever reason opens the doors for personal and corporate law suits.
Let's think this one out for a moment. Both occupations have to deal with face to face hands on situations. Now if I found out that a care taker had been around contagious people all day long and now wants to attend to my needs and I get sick. Well what am I to think other than this care taker who has been in contact and exposed daily to known infected people and refused to get the shot is my most likely choice to point the finger at.

Teachers are in this same scenario.

Hospitals and institutions who work with the public daily need to follow guide lines for health but also for insurance coverage.

I'm not defending the mandates but this has crossed my mind.

Here are FACTS.

 

[Gardenias]

Some here are making Satan out to be greater than God!
It just keeps coming out of your hearts,the judgments that those that have taken the injection will be FIRST in line for the mark.
Go back to personal bible study with the Holy Spirit before you get in bible discussion and show your fear,lack of faith and lack of love!

God's asking why are the prayer closets getting musty from lack of use.
He's also wondering why cobwebs are forming on his word!
Its sad to discover his people are more in tune with media and social outlets than prayer and study of his word !

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Some here are making Satan out to be greater than God!
It just keeps coming out of your hearts,the judgments that those that have taken the injection will be FIRST in line for the mark.
Go back to personal bible study with the Holy Spirit before you get in bible discussion and show your fear,lack of faith and lack of love!

God's asking why are the prayer closets getting musty from lack of use.
He's also wondering why cobwebs are forming on his word!
Its sad to discover his people are more in tune with media and social outlets than prayer and study of his word !

Its sad. I saw the left and all they did to spread hate and fear for 4 years during the trump administration

I thought the right would be above that stuff. But sadly. We show we are not much better

Its why I have no hope for my nation

 

[rayzor]

AGREE

Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you"

Never forget: When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate it.

The serpent in the Garden is now a DRAGON and the fruit will look better then ever

Example: some are already saying: taking the experimental gene altering chemicals is the preaching of the gospel.

So now we have false christs and false apostles preaching a altered gospel = take the jab to save the world

Remember now Jesus called himself a prick.I know you mean shot,but what would happen if you jab a needle with your first?This is if you remember what Jesus said to Paul,,,Why kick your foot against needles?It was Jesus that said why kick your foot against the picks?My point? If done right we are the picks

 

[DavidTree]

Remember now Jesus called himself a prick.I know you mean shot,but what would happen if you jab a needle with your first?This is if you remember what Jesus said to Paul,,,Why kick your foot against needles?It was Jesus that said why kick your foot against the picks?My point? If done right we are the picks

Saul was blinded with religious hate against the TRUE Brethren of Christ - we see the beginning of this on this thread with those who are walking in agreement with Big Pharma and their euthanasia program.

"For the day will come when they kill you thinking they are doing God a service." - Matt 24:9

Everyone take heed with where you stand - God is not mocked and He knows all things about the Agenda at hand.

As Eve was deceived in the Garden so again the final show down between "What God said" and what the Serpent/Dragon is saying.

For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
Hebrews 4: 12-13

 

[DavidTree]

You are completely ignoring that vaccinated get and transmit the virus.

You also completely ignore natural immunity.

It is almost as if the vaccinated have become identical to the Borg collective, unable to process facts, and only repeat the mantra fed to them from the narrative.

"almost as if" ???

This is a rehearsal
1. The act of practicing in preparation for a public performance.
2. A session of practice for a performance, as of a play.
3. A detailed enumeration or repetition


Re - hear - say

 

[Angela53510]

When people (ie government, government agencies, and media) lose (destroy) their own credibility, it’s not paranoid to distrust them. I’m as angry as a wet cat about what they have done and are doing.

It’s up to them to heal their credibility. But that would require a full 180 degree turnaround and a lot of time of corrected behavior. I don’t see that happening.

I am quite aware that the American gov't is not good. Biden seems to be the worst president ever.

Well, we have the worst prime minister in the history of Canada with Justin Trudeau. He is literally destroying this country. He is a globalist, arrogant, totally unethical, ignorant, lying, scamming, narcissist. That's keeping it mild.

But never at any time have I made it about me. The govt is not after me. I'm not sitting around worried the police will break into my home and drag me out, because I post against Trudeau and his whole lousy Liberal Party so much on Twitter.

I'm not saying it won't happen. But I am not paranoid about it. I'll face that music if it happens. Even our new Conservative Party turned against Conservative principles, and became Liberal lite, and did terribly in the election. But I'm not afraid or paranoid about him. I'm hoping he'll get the boot in this leadership review coming up.

Yes, we have 2 terrible governments. But, acknowledging that is totally different than the rabid paranoia I see in so many Americans. The gov't is out to get them. That's the definition of paranoia. And it is so widespread. In Canada, we hate Trudeau. Some people are trying to separate the west! That's my preferred option. Others are trying to get a western party to elect MPs. It's useless, in my mind, but they are putting positive effort into it. One of our pro-life groups just helped get 74 pro-life MPs elected. The progressives hate it. But the more that get elected, the more chance of voting in some laws. Canada is the only country in the western world, that has no laws against any type of abortion since the Morgentaler decision in 1988.

I'm not saying people shouldn't fight back, in positive ways. But when you make it all about "the government is coming for ME" that's where paranoia starts.

I also think the dependence on guns to fight back is limiting creativity in ways to take back America. Mind you, after all the cheating in your election, I almost don't blame you!

 

[pottersclay]

You are completely ignoring that vaccinated get and transmit the virus.

You also completely ignore natural immunity.

It is almost as if the vaccinated have become identical to the Borg collective, unable to process facts, and only repeat the mantra fed to them from the narrative.

No saint I'm not ignoring anything as I said I'm trusting the Lord that I made the right decision.
You can fire storm me with all the pro and cons videos but who is really telling the truth in this day and age of the deception and lies conspiracy theories and what have you.
3yrs ago we weren't even talking about this.
My decision was made out of prayer and ernest concern for other well being.
Truth be told with the toll of cancer and the multiple surgeries I've had my body gives me more pain and problems than I care to disclose. More days then not for the Lord to take me would be a blessing.
But as I said I could not bare the thought of someone's sickness or death especially my wife of 38 yrs to be caused by my ignorance.
If I find out in the future that my decision was wrong I will have a clear conscience knowing that my decision was based on the concern for others and not myself.
As far as the post about insurance being the issue that's just me thinking out loud.
The real issues of this pandemic is not the shot or who caused it or who's telling the truth its why did the Lord allow it.?...what's he saying?...what does he want? A real wake up call if you ask me😯😯😯

 

[AandW]

Here are FACTS.

COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination - Nebraska ...
https://www.nebraskamed.com › COVID › covid-19-stu...
Sep 20, 2021 — The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity ...

Published September 20, 2021

If you've had COVID-19 before, does your natural immunity work better than a vaccine?
The data is clear: Natural immunity is not better. The COVID-19 vaccines create more effective and longer-lasting immunity than natural immunity from infection.

• More than a third of COVID-19 infections result in zero protective antibodies
• Natural immunity fades faster than vaccine immunity
• Natural immunity alone is less than half as effective than natural immunity plus vaccination

A third of infections don't get any protective antibodies
Some people who get COVID-19 receive no protection from reinfection – their natural immunity is nonexistent. A recent study found that 36% of COVID-19 cases didn't result in development of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The people had different levels of illness – most had moderate disease, but some were asymptomatic and some experienced severe COVID-19.
"Vaccine-induced immunity is more predictable than natural immunity," says Dr. Rupp. The COVID-19 vaccines provide great protection from severe disease, hospitalization and death.

Natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine immunity
Natural immunity can decay within about 90 days. Immunity from COVID-19 vaccines has been shown to last longer. Both Pfizer and Moderna reported strong vaccine protection for at least six months.
Studies are ongoing to evaluate the full duration of protective immunity, including the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Real-world studies also indicate natural immunity's short life. For example, 65% of people with a lower baseline antibody from infection to begin with completely lost their COVID-19 antibodies by 60 days.
What about that Israeli study suggesting natural immunity is stronger? Infectious diseases expert James Lawler, MD, MPH, FIDSA, carefully evaluates the study design of the retrospective Maccabi Health System study in his Aug. 31 briefing. In the briefing, he identifies two concerning sources of error that were not corrected for: survivorship bias and selection bias.

Natural immunity alone is weak
One study compared natural immunity alone to natural immunity plus vaccination. They found that, after infection, unvaccinated people are 2.34 times likelier to get COVID-19 again, compared to fully vaccinated people. So vaccinated people (after infection) have half the risk of reinfection than people relying on natural immunity alone.
"Studies show that the vaccine gives a very good booster response if you've had COVID-19 before," says Dr. Rupp.
Furthermore, there is no country on the globe in which natural infection and natural immunity has brought the pandemic under control. In countries like Iran or Brazil very high levels of natural infection have not prevented recurrent waves of infection.

 

[TheLearner]

Yes I do but more than that scripture tells us that that if we are poisoned that no harm shall come to us.
Considering the pros and cons of the shot I came to this conclusion.
I could never forgive myself nor ignore the possibility that if my wife became sick and (with her health conditions) died that my ignorance was a contributing factor.
My neighbor next door also is high risk in whom I take care of for she is a senior widow.
To be honest my health risk was of very little concern.
In short I was trusting God in my decision to do what I come to believe was the right thing.

 

[PennEd]

Melissa Strickler has been fired by Pfizer after revealing internal emails from the company which show aborted fetal tissue was utilized in the production of the experimental mRNA Covid Vaccine.

Pfizer Email — “We want to avoid having the information on the fetal cell lines floating out there. We believe the risk of communication this right now outweighs any potential benefit that we could see, particularly with general members of the public who may take this information and use it in ways we may not want it out there.

 

[PennEd]

You are being played as fools:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1446312291302055940

 

[shittim]

Thank you PennEd