Understanding God’s election

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PaulThomson

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Believe INTO!??? Are you on the verge of inventing a new school of soteriology?

And of course, the demons believe in God. Haven't they seen him and heard him? :rolleyes:

And, yes, they also believe in the Son of God. Read Mark 5 some day.
We are ouside of Christ. Believe and become in Christ. That sounds like believing into Christ to me.

Believing that God is one, or that Jesus is the Son of God,, is not the same aa believing Jesus, or believing in Jesus, or believing upon Jesus, or believing into Jesus.
 
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Believe INTO!??? Are you on the verge of inventing a new school of soteriology?

And of course, the demons believe in God. Haven't they seen him and heard him? :rolleyes:

And, yes, they also believe in the Son of God. Read Mark 5 some day.
"Believe into Christ " and Believe into God" are exactly what the Greek says.

1Pe 1:21
Who by him do believe into God (pisteuontas eis theon), that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

John 3:15 That all who believe into him (ho pisteuOn eis auton) should not perish, but have aeonous life.
16 He that believes into the Son (ho pisteuOn eis ton huion) has aeonous life.

Gal. 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by works of the law..... even we have believed into Jesus (hEmais eis Christon IEsoun episteusamen) ..."

Many years ago I took the time to invest in a year of weekly night classes to study beginner Greek and Hebrew at a Bible college. I have been able to informally build on that basic understanding over the subsequent decades. I recommend anyone who wants to actually understand what the Bible is teaching should do likewise. If you are depending on translations to argue what scripture teaches, without being able to intelligently assess what the original language is saying, you are simply going to cherry-pick from translations to confirm your theological biases. Seek the truth, rather than merely to defend the uninvestigated opinions of your team.
 
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There are two opposing kingdoms ruling now over various places on the planet. When Jesus returns His kingdom will be the only kingdom ruling for 1000 years. Are you a teacher in the church and do not understand this basic truth regarding the warfare presently raging between the Kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness?