Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning

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2Pillars

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Nevertheless the time is getting closer, and it is time to correct the doctrines.

2 Perer 3:v.8KJV - 8 But, beloved, be not IGNORANT of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

Yes, actually the time is much more closer than you all think.

About the seven Biblical periods, six of them have closed by complete. We just entered in the seventh and last Biblical period.

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND will go through six God days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology God revealed to Moses, we can number our days (human days, the days of mankind), beginning in Genesis chap.5, as follow:

Adam lived …......................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ...........................................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ...........................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived...........................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived ..................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived ..........................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ..........................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived..............................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ....................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood...........600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood =1,656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the own Word of God.

See the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ------------------------------------------ DURATION
I - From Adam until the Flood-----------------------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood until Abraham-------------------------------------. 427 years
III - From Abraham until Exodus---------------------------------------. 430 years (Galatians 3:v.17)
IV - From Exodus until king Saul --------------------------------------. 396 years
V - From Saul until the fall of Jerusalem ----------------------------.. 508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem until Jesus --------------------------- 587 years
Thus, from Adam until the 1st coming of Jesus ------------------. 4,004 years

From Jesus until our days (Christian Calendar)--------------------. 2,018 years
Total of days from Adam until our days ----------------------------. . 6,022 years


Jesus came in the fourth Day (the Greater Light, yes, the Greater Light, - Gen.1:v.16) or around 4.000 years from the beginning of God's Plan of restoration of all things.

From JESUS (fourth Day) until our days, have passed more two Days or around 2,000 years, totalizing 6 complete Days or six milleniums, or around 6.000 years, more precisely 6.018 years, according Christian Calendar pointing the transiction from year 2.018 to 2019.

So, we have entered in the FIRST century of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day of God's time, that is the Great Sabbath, the Millennium of Christ, the Millennium of Truth, the Millennium of Judgment - the Judgment Seat of Christ - and the Millennium of Vengeance in accord Scriptures.

God Father has already entered in His rest - seventh Day - as He had planned in the beginning of His works, but He is not sleeping, of course, and JESUS already assumed the government not only of the whole Earth but also of the Universe. JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ.

The world of Devil is already Judged, and Condemned, and now, in this seventh and last millennium, the world of Devil with all its structures, religious, politic, economic, military, social, cultural, etc., will be punished with strong punishments, yea, strong punishments, there will be only and only punishments in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the Day of the Lord JESUS, King of kings and LORD of lords.

JESUS is now sat on His Throne, the Judgment Seat of Christ, to Judge all nations, taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not His gospel, who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the Glory of His Power.

And the kingdoms of THIS WORLD are become the KINGDOMS of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. (Rev.11:15)

verse 18 says: And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come (the wrath of God Almighty), and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should DESTROY them which destroy the earth.
One again,to refute what I have posted and claimed without EDITING my quotes.... since, your reply, seemingly, does NOT make sense to the thrust of the messagse I provided. Thanks
 
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Man became a natural living soul after he was formed from the dust of the ground and was given a breath of life by our Lord God, the Son, on the 3rd Day. However, Man did not have the Quickening Spirit or Holy Spirit YET at that time.... because, it takes the agreement of the Trinity (Father, Son and the Holy Spirit) to make a spiritual being - just like when a person is Born Again spiritually in the image and likeness of God.

1Cor 15:45-46 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
Scripture does support that for sure.

1 Corinthians 15:47
The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.

so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust.
 

Magenta

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I think I’m catching on 2pillars, God did say He breathed a living soul into Adam, thus was alive before entering the human vessel, interesting
New International Version
Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.


New Living Translation
Then the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nostrils, and the man became a living person.


English Standard Version
then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.


Berean Study Bible
Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.


New American Standard Bible
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 

2Pillars

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Scripture does support that for sure.

1 Corinthians 15:47
The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.

so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust.
Sorry but you seem to be confuse and your premise is not valid... since Adam was not yet a spiritual being at that time.

Adam became a NATURAL Living Soul - after he was given a breath of life on the 3rd Day. Buthe was not made a spiritual being until he was redeemed by God after he sinned... and was born again in the image and likeness of God, spiritually, during Seth generation Gen 5:1-3

In fact IF you think the ""breath of life"that is being given by the Lord is spiritual, then ALL Animals and Creatures are eternal spiritual being... because, just like Adam, Animals and Creatures were also given the same breath of life by Jesus.

Would that make sense to you" Of course not. Read below...

Gen 7:14-15 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort. v15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

Gen 7"21-22And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: v22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that wasin the dry land, died.
 
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One again,to refute what I have posted and claimed without EDITING my quotes.... since, your reply, seemingly, does NOT make sense to the thrust of the messagse I provided. Thanks

What I have posted was not to refute the content of your post, absolutely, but to describe what God has revealed by His Word in Genesis, God is Spirit, the Word is God, so if the content of post based in the Word of God seems for you to be refuting what you have posted, it is because what you have written has nothing to do with the Word of God, but it is a mere opinion and suppositions or speculations sowed by you in this Christian forum.
 

Dino246

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I am not follower of the sects you are speaking, that's the manifestation of the spirit of lie on you trying to sow confusion in this Christian forum. .
Yawn. You could have stopped after the first ten words... and not come across as a jackdonkey.
 

Dino246

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What I have posted was not to refute the content of your post, absolutely, but to describe what God has revealed by His Word in Genesis, God is Spirit, the Word is God, so if the content of post based in the Word of God seems for you to be refuting what you have posted, it is because what you have written has nothing to do with the Word of God, but it is a mere opinion and suppositions or speculations sowed by you in this Christian forum.
A little humility would do you well as would application of sound hermeneutical principles. As of right now, it is you sowing suppositions and speculations.
 
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I agree my friend. That is why I am very careful in trying to build my BiblicaStand with solid Foundation as I go along the way. Here are some of the details I see with regards to the continuing topic.

The beginning of our Cosmos is dated at some 13.7 Billion years ago, in man's time, scientifically speaking... BUT was on the 3rd Day of Genesis in God's time.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Adam was a living soul and lived with YHWH, the Son of God, as his meet, for Billions of years, before, he disobeyed and was made in a perfect body with Shekinah Glory on the 3rd Day. But lost his glory after he disobeyed the 1st commandment of the Lord and sinned on the 6th Day.

The world of Adam (1st heaven or the garden of Eden) was an enclosed Biosphere much much smaller than our earth, which was totally surrounded by the firmament which protected it from the waters above and below it - into which it was placed. Gen 1:6-8 .

Adam was physically formed (like a potter would mold a clay) on the 3rd Day, BEFORE the First Stars, which were not made and put forth it’s light until the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 - millions of years after the Big Bang. He was BEFORE any other creature brought forth from the water on the 5th Day, Gen 1:21. This included the creation of the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) originated from the waters some 3.7 Billion years ago, in man's time.

In the Day, Adam and his generations were Created spiritually in the image and likeness of God (Gen 1:26-27) - both A&E have already committed their “original sins”; sent out of the garden of Eden; Cain had already killed Abel; and the creation event took place during the Seth’ generations; only after Man began to call upon the name of the Lord (Gen 4:26) ...and repent.

Gen 5:1-3
v1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
v2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
v3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:

Of course, Cain, who was a Murderer and a Liar from the beginning, could NOT have been made in the image or likeness of God. Therefore, not everybody is created in the image and likeness of God from natural birth, unless, one is Born Again, spiritually in Christ.

1 Cor 15:45-46 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

God bless
That’s not what you said, you said Adam was a living soul billions of years before he disobeyed. I don’t buy that there was no dust/dirt of earth yet so no his soul was not formed before dirt of earth.
 
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As Crossnote said

Evening and morning

Science says that if the eath rotated much faster or slower, that life could not survive. So the rotation of the earth MUST have been the same then as today

If people want to help science with creation. Look to the flood. The flood answers all questions which science says proves the earth is billions of years old.

Aws typical with hebrew writing. We have genesis 1 and 2. God created the heaven and earth, and the earth was without form and void (its original state). This is a general statement God created the heavens and earth

After this we have a more detailed explanation of this creation (6 days)

After this we are given a more detailed explanation of the creation of man.

God created the worled as we would call it (aged) or in other words. Capable os sustaining life and all that is with it, Including the starts, which shone its light on earth on the DAY they were created, for the reason they were created.

It is all simple. But people want to make it complicated, because they think science is right, so instead of making science fit the word, they make the word fit the bible
That’s not what science says.

This collision set Earth spinning at a faster rate. Scientists estimate that a day in the life of early Earth was only about 6 hours long. The Moon formed much closer to Earth than it is today.

And it is moving away from earth little by little each year, about four centimeters each year not a lot but over time it adds up

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-earth/earth-rotation.html

I would like to see where you got that info from about life can’t be sustain with a faster or slower earth?

Can you please supply the link
 
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Deep sea coral and many other animals don’t need sun light to live, they don’t care how fast the earth is moving.
 
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Dirt is created just as God has always done it by design, a tree dies turns to dirt to support the life of the next tree in a solid foundation with plenty of nutrients from the last tree that turned to dirt. And cycle continues today just as the beginning of plants and trees by design.
 

2Pillars

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That’s not what you said (??? Edit - please provide the exact quote that you are trying to contest), you said Adam was a living soul billions of years before he disobeyed ( EDIT -Yes, I stand to that quote). I don’t buy that there was no dust/dirt of earth yet so no his soul was not formed before dirt of earth.
You are badly mistaken my friend. Of course, there was already Dust or Dirt in the beginning of Genesis 1:1-2. Let me show it to you for your further study of the Hebrew word that was rendered forming the context of the text .

In the context of Genesis 1:1-2 I see the narrative as saying....

In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew - Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, (Water) and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The 3 elements necessary for all physical form are shown... Air, Dust, and Water. Everything which is physical is composed of these 3 elements. The text is correct in showing that the water was not directly created, or spoken into being, because it consists of elements of the Air or Atmosphere. Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen and came from the Atmosphere and is not shown as a separate creation.

This is correct in today's scientific knowledge, but IF the Scriptures were written by Ancient men, Moses would not have known this. He would have written that in the beginning God created the Air, Dust, and Water, but since God Himself is the Author, He correctly shows that the Atmosphere and Ground were created, and the Water was not a separate creation but instead, came from the Atmosphere.

1 Cor 15:45-46 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
 

2Pillars

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Sorry brethren, but again, there was no 24 Hour Day and Genesis 1&2 do not state that there was a 24 hour Day during God's Creative Days. The Un-Scriptural idea, that the 6 Creative Days and the 1 Day of Rest in Genesis 1&2, are 24 hour periods of Time, is refuted by Scripture in sooooooo many ways. The 7th Day has no End.

Since God sees the end from the beginning, Isa 46:10 He wrote the complete HISTORY of His Seven Days in the first 34 verses of Genesis. ALL of the rest of the Bible refers BACK to One of the 7 Days of Creation, shown in it's Entirety. It opens up many of the mysteries which ancient men traditional view could NOT have understood and it reveals the Literal God because it shows us the FUTURE since No man of the time could have told us of the events at the end of the present 6th Day, which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this planet.

Therefore, Today, we are still living at Gen 1:27 as we speak Today, and the rest of Genesis 1:28-31 takes place AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.

Below, are few more Biblical Proof Texts for your perusal and serious study:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

This is a Future event which will take place in the thousand year reign of Christ on this Earth. At that time, Humans will be given dominion or rule over EVERY living thing that moves on this Earth. That includes Mosquitoes, Viruses and Sharks. It is something which has NEVER taken place on Planet Earth Before, as the next verses show:

Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, AND EVERY TREE, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

Again this is a prophecy of the Future since we will NOT eat from the Tree of Life until All Christians are in the New Heaven. Rev 22:14

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

Another future happening, except the end of this prophecy is clearly shown in:

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

When you read the verse in context, this event happens AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at Armageddon. Isa 11:1-7

Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Finally God's Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is complete and Earth is Safe for a thousand years. Then, and only then, will the God, Who sees the end from the beginning, says, It is very good, at the end of the present 6th Day of labor in which God is making a perfect heaven and filling it with His Immortal Children, called Christians.

God bless
Genesis 1 is the complete History of the 6 Days or Ages of God's Creation of the Perfect 3rd Heaven. Genesis 2 tells us what happens AFTER God's Creation is completely finished or brought to perfection. For God to finish a work is…. for that work to be made perfect. If it's NOT, perfect, then it's NOT finished yet.

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Thus the heavens and the earth were brought to perfection, which is the end result of any work which the perfect God does. If it's NOT perfect, then God didn't do it.

Notice also that ALL of the host of Heaven is in Heaven, and this shows that the last sinner to be saved, is safely in Heaven, since they are just as much a part of Heaven as any other inhabitant of Heaven.

v2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.

Notice that this verse tells us that God rests from ALL of His work on the 7th Day. IF God had already rested in the past from ALL of His work, it would be too late to become a Christian, since it takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to CREATE a new creature in Christ Spiritually. Genesis 1:26 AND Jhn 14:16.

v3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.

The reason Scripture reads as if this has already happened is because, I believe, we will open and read the Bible in Heaven for it is the complete History of God's Creation of the perfect Heaven.

This also explains WHY God used the Hebrew language since it shows that His blessing of this Day is FUTURE, since it is written in Hebrew ImPerfect Tense, which means that the action is not yet complete.

Conclusion: We live today at Genesis 1:27 because God is STILL creating mankind in Christ in order to bring His Creation to perfection. He will not rest until ALL of His work is complete on the future 7th Day or Age in the Creation of the perfect Heaven, and ALL of the host of Heaven, which includes ALL Christians, are safely in Heaven.

This also explains WHY Adam was formed physically on the 3rd Day but was NOT created in God's Image or in Christ until the 6th Day.

God Bless
 
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New International Version
Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.


New Living Translation
Then the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nostrils, and the man became a living person.


English Standard Version
then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.


Berean Study Bible
Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.


New American Standard Bible
Then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Good post. Good post.

Speaking of NOSTRILS, the prophet Isaiah give us an important message about prophesying as follow:

Isaiah 2:v.17-22

17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that Day. - Now, in this Day -

18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

20 In that day - now this Day - a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth.

22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his NOSTRILS: for wherein is he to be accounted of ?
1 Corinthians 15:47
The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.

so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust.
 
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Scripture does support that for sure.

1 Corinthians 15:47
The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.

so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust.

Good question. Good question.

Its hard to speak of mysteries of God. Firstly, even the own God Almighty is a mystery. Scripture says: The Word is God. Scripture says: The letter (of the Word) kills, but the Spirit gives life. So, Life and death come of the Word, Word of God. But see: God is a title, right? The essence of the Word is God, as says the Scripture through the letters of the Word, we call of Bible, whose letter kills, but Spirit gives life. God is Spirit. The Word is God.

But the Word was made flesh. The Word - that is God - is Spirit, in He Himself materialized as such as is the the man made of the dust of the earth, but He comes from celestial region we call heaven - heaven is not the physycal space of the Universe, but celestial environment in Christ where God to be and is found as is revealed in Ephesians 1:v.3.

That said, again, your question: "so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust".
The Word of God, the Scriptures, which can gives life or to kill, say that God planned to restore all things in Christ as is written in Acts 3:v.18-26, restore what? All things as they were in the Garden of Eden.

Let us see. There was a great population in the Garden of Eden, a crowd, and below God - the Word - they were ruled by a Cherub who was under God's command - the Word. All rebelled against God - against the Word - beginning with the cherub, and they all lost the heavenly nature they possessed, they fell to the ground, and then appeared what we know to be the man made of the dust of the earth - Adam - , the man of sin, animal and even beastly. About this multitude of disobedient Judas wrote: Jude 1: v.6 - 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate (heavenly nature), but left their own habitation, he - the Word - God - hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great Day. - This Day has already arrived.

About the restoration JESUS said: Luke 20:v.35-36

35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the Kingdom of God), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. - The earthly nature will change)
37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Yeah, He is not a God of the dead, so, as said JESUS: Luke 9:v.60

60 Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
 
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You are badly mistaken my friend. Of course, there was already Dust or Dirt in the beginning of Genesis 1:1-2. Let me show it to you for your further study of the Hebrew word that was rendered forming the context of the text .

In the context of Genesis 1:1-2 I see the narrative as saying....

In the beginning God Created the heaven (Hebrew - Air) and the Earth (Hebrew - Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, (Water) and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The 3 elements necessary for all physical form are shown... Air, Dust, and Water. Everything which is physical is composed of these 3 elements. The text is correct in showing that the water was not directly created, or spoken into being, because it consists of elements of the Air or Atmosphere. Water is Hydrogen and Oxygen and came from the Atmosphere and is not shown as a separate creation.

This is correct in today's scientific knowledge, but IF the Scriptures were written by Ancient men, Moses would not have known this. He would have written that in the beginning God created the Air, Dust, and Water, but since God Himself is the Author, He correctly shows that the Atmosphere and Ground were created, and the Water was not a separate creation but instead, came from the Atmosphere.

1 Cor 15:45-46 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
v46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
No you are badly mistaking, in the beginnIng God created hydrogen and helium and other elements, the unseen elements

And dust is not needed for life that’s ignorant, Mars is a planet in our solar system but it’s not mentioned in the Bible, did God not create the other planets in our solar system or was they just there?
 
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Good question. Good question.

Its hard to speak of mysteries of God. Firstly, even the own God Almighty is a mystery. Scripture says: The Word is God. Scripture says: The letter (of the Word) kills, but the Spirit gives life. So, Life and death come of the Word, Word of God. But see: God is a title, right? The essence of the Word is God, as says the Scripture through the letters of the Word, we call of Bible, whose letter kills, but Spirit gives life. God is Spirit. The Word is God.

But the Word was made flesh. The Word - that is God - is Spirit, in He Himself materialized as such as is the the man made of the dust of the earth, but He comes from celestial region we call heaven - heaven is not the physycal space of the Universe, but celestial environment in Christ where God to be and is found as is revealed in Ephesians 1:v.3.

That said, again, your question: "so if Adam became a living soul a spiritual being then what was he before the formation of dust".
The Word of God, the Scriptures, which can gives life or to kill, say that God planned to restore all things in Christ as is written in Acts 3:v.18-26, restore what? All things as they were in the Garden of Eden.

Let us see. There was a great population in the Garden of Eden, a crowd, and below God - the Word - they were ruled by a Cherub who was under God's command - the Word. All rebelled against God - against the Word - beginning with the cherub, and they all lost the heavenly nature they possessed, they fell to the ground, and then appeared what we know to be the man made of the dust of the earth - Adam - , the man of sin, animal and even beastly. About this multitude of disobedient Judas wrote: Jude 1: v.6 - 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate (heavenly nature), but left their own habitation, he - the Word - God - hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great Day. - This Day has already arrived.

About the restoration JESUS said: Luke 20:v.35-36

35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (the Kingdom of God), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. - The earthly nature will change)
37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Yeah, He is not a God of the dead, so, as said JESUS: Luke 9:v.60

60 Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
No Adam was not Jesus in dust form, God created two male vessels and one woman vessel.

First man vessel from dirt, first woman vessel from the rib bone of man, the second man vessel from the womb of the woman.

And you said this
But the Word was made flesh. The Word - that is God - is Spirit, in He Himself materialized as such as is the the man made of the dust of the earth, but He comes from celestial region we call heaven - heaven is not the physycal space of the Universe, but celestial environment in Christ where God to be and is found as is revealed in Ephesians 1:v.3.

are saying God sinned against himself that’s ignorant