Unconditional love verses from God to us the people

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Oct 24, 2012
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“Yet, there is proper order, you think? “

yeah what I’m saying is Gods commandments are to love one another and loving God is keeping his commandments.

sits sich a close relationship the two commandments are joined together is all I’m saying when we love other people we’re living him as he wills You can’t possibly ly love god if you do t live other people and can’t possibly my love other people right unless god first loves you and you actually hear the message he sent telling us in the gospel.


“Romans 2:1-4 reminds me of this amazing gift from God for us all to not work for what is given us. “

“You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance? But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:1-5‬ ‭NIV‬‬

those are relevant verses also but I’m pretty sure you probably meant some part of Roman’s 4 brother where he’s talking about Abraham and quotes the ot regarding our covenant the mercies of David. It’s really a great chapter but they all are if we’re paying attention they actually make a thorough and clear message that all works together to redeem us from sin and death

always a pleasure
Yes, God rakes it all in, sees it all, good and bad.` Uses it and teaches us new in it, at least me. this I am seeing, and have seen for 60 years, good and bad happening to us all, not mattering whether or not anyone has been good or bad. How to go through adversities and be content anyways, is what our Father teaches, each child, in willing beleif to his love and mercy for them. Unless one, anyone is willing, one I see, at least me, did not see, not really. I have been taught to be looking up in pride or down in guilt. When reality is always in front of me, couldn't see it, looking up or down. Now facing it good or bad, such as like when rains falls, It falls on all, it does not discern who to fall on it falls on us all, good or bad is not the issue
So I have gone through problems, okay, what will any worry do? Will it help
Matthew 6, will any worry add a cubit to your life? As a matter of fact, Worry, steals, kills and destroys, John 10:10a John 10:10b states Jesus came to give us life more abundantly
How to see that, while in adversities, is only revealed by Father and risen Son, to one, anyone as is been been and being revealed to you too, Thanking Father for this truth
 
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I think we agree that salvation is conditional upon repentance, and repentance of sins after being saved is called confession.
I understand spiritual dynamics like this:

At the moment of repentance/saving faith (Acts 20:21, Rom. 10:9), the Spirit of Christ/God’s Holy Spirit enters the believer’s spiritual heart (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5), uniting them with God as heavenly Father (Rom. 8:9) and identifying them with Christ’s worldwide/catholic body or church (Col. 1:18), which moment is called spiritual rebirth (John 3:3-8) or “baptism by the Spirit” (1Cor. 12:13). The outward evidence that someone was baptized by the HS and is Spirit-filled (Eph. 5:18) or walking with God is the manifestation of the fullness of Christ (Eph. 3:19, 4:13) or fruit of the Spirit, which consists of such attributes as those listed in Galatians 5:22-23: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Jesus said “All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another” (John 13:35, 1John 4:7-21), because “love” sums up the moral character of God (1John 4:7-8). (He did NOT say “…if you are water baptized.”)

The relationship between Believers/Christians and God may be viewed as having three stages: conversion, spiritual growth or maturation (Eph. 4:13), and glorification (1Pet. 5:10) or immortality (1Cor. 15:53) in heaven. The kerygmatic prayer that is necessary in order for a sinner be saved and walk with God is confession (1John 1:9, Psa. 32:1-5). Because a convert’s commitment to Christ is in accordance with God’s perfect will (1Tim. 2:3-4), the moment of Spirit baptism fulfills the command to be filled with the Spirit (in Eph. 5:18), which means to cooperate fully with the love of God (Eph. 3:16-19).

The moment or stage of conversion may be described grammatically as occurring in the past: we were saved when we repented/received the baptism of the HS. From the moment of repentance onward begins the second stage of growth, discipleship (Acts 14:22) or sanctification (2Thes. 2:13), which is present progressive: it is the process of being saved now. This stage has two phases: instability and maturity. A new convert does not achieve immediate perfection by remaining filled with the HS (Phil. 3:12). Instead, the combination of temptations, ignorance of GW and the old selfish nature results in immature saints committing post-conversion sins, at which time the are carnal or acting like unbelievers (1Cor. 3:1).

As soon as new Christians realize they sinned, they should confess it (1John 1:9a) rather than compound it by trying to hide it or cover it up like Adam and Eve did (Gen. 3:7-8). Whenever a believer acknowledges to God his/her known sins of immoral attitudes and actions, God forgives all sins (1John 1:9b). This means he/she is pleasing rather than grieving God or once again is Spirit-filled (walking in the Spirit) and has a right relationship with Christ Jesus (Eph. 4:30, 5:10 & 18). This spiritual flip-flopping is the phase of instability, and although it is bad, failure to confess promptly is much worse, because it results in chain-sinning or back-sliding, which may be called prodigal if it continues very long (cf. Luke 15:11-32).

Unfortunately, some saints may not appreciate the process of spiritual growth or being transformed by the renewing of their minds (Rom. 12:2), perhaps because it involves admitting sins or having “guilt trips”. Guilt is like a warning light, and until we gain the wisdom to welcome God’s reproof, we will not feel the satisfaction of becoming a new and improved version of ourselves. Woe to the one who become so callous that no guilt is felt when wrong is done!

The unstable phase is followed eventually by a second phase of relative maturity, signified in the Bible (especially the KJV) by the phrase “walking with God” (cf. Enoch in Gen. 5:24) or walking in light (1John 1:7). Paul also described this phase as walking in love (Eph. 5:2), in a new life (Rom. 6:4) according to the Spirit (Rom. 8:4) and in good works (Col. 1:10). Like physical walking, spiritual walking has two steps. The first step is listening to God (LGW), and the second step is responding to or cooperating with God. God’s message for mankind is revealed partially by the world He has created but more fully by the Scriptures He has inspired. The crux of God’s Word is the Gospel of salvation (kerygma), while the secondary teachings (didache) consist of the manifold applications of the law of love (1John 3:11).
Simply, believe, receive and see new in God's love and mercy for us all through risen Son, thanks