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That mankind is both from the animal kingdom and the spiritual kingdom is confirmed in Gen 1.26 – 27…in which the previous existing earthly elements are combined with a brand new ‘spirit’ via the creation verb ‘bara’, used not once, not twice, but THREE times in Gen 1.27 – exemplifying the Triune Creator.
It is my understanding that if we come to the father we have salvation we are his child and heirs to his kingdom, I can see that this discussion isn't going anywhere so I will shake the dust off my feet and walk away whether you believe salvation comes from Jesus or from the belief in the trinity is your choice
J
so it does or doesnt mean He created?
all i see is the Lord created. i dont see where it talks about person 1, 2 and 3.
we dont agree on this and its ok. trinity debates are not allowed any way which is right where this is headed.
you still never showed me anywhere where triune belief is the only path to salvation.
all i see is the Lord created. i dont see where it talks about person 1, 2 and 3.
we dont agree on this and its ok. trinity debates are not allowed any way which is right where this is headed.
you still never showed me anywhere where triune belief is the only path to salvation.
Bara - to create, bring about, to bring into existence out of nothing. Indicates a new creative act not a refashioning of an existing object.
You seem to be dragging your feet.
Let's see if this helps...
Gen 1.26 - 27
And God said, let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth. And God created (bara)the man in His own image; in the image of God He created (bara)him. He created (bara)them male and female.
This Gen 1 passage informs the reader that our Creator God is plural, via the usage of ‘us’ and ‘our’…repeated three times.
Immediately after this declaration, the creative verb ‘bara’ is utilized three successive times when once should have sufficed. Another clear indicator of The Triune Creator.
You seem to be dragging your feet.
Let's see if this helps...
Gen 1.26 - 27
And God said, let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creepers creeping on the earth. And God created (bara)the man in His own image; in the image of God He created (bara)him. He created (bara)them male and female.
This Gen 1 passage informs the reader that our Creator God is plural, via the usage of ‘us’ and ‘our’…repeated three times.
Immediately after this declaration, the creative verb ‘bara’ is utilized three successive times when once should have sufficed. Another clear indicator of The Triune Creator.
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J
if this is what you see then i respect that but i dont see it. and i will never ever ever ever jump into believing something just because someone tells me to when the bible does not say it nor support it.
u still never connected salvation to trinity. you just give scriptures that you see as triune. i think your trying to spin this into a trinity debate which you know is not allowed.
u still never connected salvation to trinity. you just give scriptures that you see as triune. i think your trying to spin this into a trinity debate which you know is not allowed.
J
provide what? im not the one trying to teach salvation issues, you are.
Otherwise, you are just providing your unreferenced opinion....and no one is interested in that...
Since you are new to scripture, we must take baby steps with you...[/QUOTE]
im not new to it. but of course im not the one making childish remarks, which makes me wonder.
Otherwise, you are just providing your unreferenced opinion....and no one is interested in that...
Since you are new to scripture, we must take baby steps with you...[/QUOTE]
im not new to it. but of course im not the one making childish remarks, which makes me wonder.
J
i base my belief on the bible and not man made opinions.
never said i didnt know what it meant, i only wanted to know what you thought it meant.
and this right here, we were never discussing the trinity (does scripture support it), but like i thought all along, you were only tying to spin this whole thing into a trinity debate which was not what i was asking in the first place.
i have tried to act like a gentleman with you, ask serious questions, yet all you do is throw insults at me and act rude. not everyone interprets scripture the exact same way you do.
never said i didnt know what it meant, i only wanted to know what you thought it meant.
and this right here, we were never discussing the trinity (does scripture support it), but like i thought all along, you were only tying to spin this whole thing into a trinity debate which was not what i was asking in the first place.
i have tried to act like a gentleman with you, ask serious questions, yet all you do is throw insults at me and act rude. not everyone interprets scripture the exact same way you do.
Abraham did what he was told by God The Son, as thus...
And they came to the place which God had said to him. And Abraham built there the altar, and arranged the wood. And he bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on the wood. And Abraham put out his hand and took the knife to slay his son.And Malek Yahwehcalled to him from the heavens and said, Abraham! Abraham! And he said, Behold me.And He said, Do not lay your hand on the boy, nor do anything to him. For now I know that you are a God-fearer, and you have not withheld your son, your only one, from Me.And Abraham lifted up his eyes and looked. And behold! A ram behind him was entangled in a thicket by its horns. And Abraham went and took the ram and offered it for a burnt offering instead of his son. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah Will See; so that it is said until this day, In the mount of Jehovah it will be seen.(Gen 22.9 -14)
Here we have the classic story of Abraham as he is about to sacrifice his son, Isaac, to God.
But, as we can easily see, the sacrifice is to Malek Yahweh.