Tithing/Giving in the New Testament
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Perhaps you're unfamiliar with 2 Corinthians 9:7 "Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. "
In other words, it is indeed within the will of God that we decide what and when we give. When you find the Scripture from which I am allegedly departing, you are welcome to post it. I won't hold my breath.
In other words, it is indeed within the will of God that we decide what and when we give. When you find the Scripture from which I am allegedly departing, you are welcome to post it. I won't hold my breath.
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This verse in no way allows you to give when you feel like giving or to give the amount you think is fair.
I have purposed in my heart to give 10% and more when I can, that is based on scripture.
I know some who have purposed 20% and even more of their increase.
In 9:6 we see that if we sow sparingly we will reap sparingly, in other words, the more we give the greater the blessing.
Nowhere does it say to give of your increase this week if you can, you are expected to give to the work of Christ.
I have purposed in my heart to give 10% and more when I can, that is based on scripture.
I know some who have purposed 20% and even more of their increase.
In 9:6 we see that if we sow sparingly we will reap sparingly, in other words, the more we give the greater the blessing.
Nowhere does it say to give of your increase this week if you can, you are expected to give to the work of Christ.
Actually, it does. It gives complete freedom to the believer. Pair that with the verse I quoted previously, "not grudgingly or under compulsion." Either there is compulsion to "give" a certain amount or percentage, or there is no compulsion. You can't have it both ways.
As there is no Scripture that suggests we are to give 10% or more, your practice is not "based on scripture".
Great, but that has nothing to do with "tithing".
Which, again, has nothing to do with "tithing".
Nor have I suggested that's what it says.
What it says is "as he has decided in his heart". There is no percentage suggested.
As there is no Scripture that suggests we are to give 10% or more, your practice is not "based on scripture".
Great, but that has nothing to do with "tithing".
Which, again, has nothing to do with "tithing".
Nor have I suggested that's what it says.
What it says is "as he has decided in his heart". There is no percentage suggested.
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I am far from wealthy, yet; I tithe and I give as I can. I know all the arguments for and against tithing, for they have been argued adlaudem here on CC. I do not care what others do. If they tithe, or not. If they give or not.
One day, we will all stand before the Lord, and we will answer to Him. On that day, I will answer I tithed as I could, and I gave as I could, and I did so not for personal recognition, but from a heart loving You Lord.
Others will have to determine their own answer, and live with His judgement.
One day, we will all stand before the Lord, and we will answer to Him. On that day, I will answer I tithed as I could, and I gave as I could, and I did so not for personal recognition, but from a heart loving You Lord.
Others will have to determine their own answer, and live with His judgement.
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Yea, if Jesus didn't say it, it doesn't apply. one of the all time favorites.
Justification by faith was seen by faith in the sacrifice of an innocent animal that represented Christ.
They were saved the same way under Law as we are under Grace, by faith in the sacrifice of Christ.
That fact was before Law, during Law, and after Law, which is my point.
In my opinion, the same applies to the tithe.
Justification by faith was seen by faith in the sacrifice of an innocent animal that represented Christ.
They were saved the same way under Law as we are under Grace, by faith in the sacrifice of Christ.
That fact was before Law, during Law, and after Law, which is my point.
In my opinion, the same applies to the tithe.
Here's the passage from Malachi:
“Would anyone rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’ In tithes and [j]offerings. 9 You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the entire nation of you! 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and put Me to the test now in this,” says the Lord of armies, “if I do not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until [k]it overflows. 11 Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruit of “Would anyone rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’ In tithes and [j]offerings. 9 You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the entire nation of you! 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and put Me to the test now in this,” says the Lord of armies, “if I do not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until [k]it overflows. 11 Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruit of your ground; nor will the vine in the field prove fruitless to you,” says the Lord of armies. 12 “All the nations will call you blessed, for you will be a delightful land,” says the Lord of armies. ; nor will the vine in the field prove fruitless to you,” says the Lord of armies.
What "nation" are Christians? What "storehouse" do we have? What "ground" do Christians have? What "land" are Christians? This was written to ancient Israel.
“Would anyone rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’ In tithes and [j]offerings. 9 You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the entire nation of you! 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and put Me to the test now in this,” says the Lord of armies, “if I do not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until [k]it overflows. 11 Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruit of “Would anyone rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, ‘How have we robbed You?’ In tithes and [j]offerings. 9 You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the entire nation of you! 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and put Me to the test now in this,” says the Lord of armies, “if I do not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until [k]it overflows. 11 Then I will rebuke the devourer for you, so that it will not destroy the fruit of your ground; nor will the vine in the field prove fruitless to you,” says the Lord of armies. 12 “All the nations will call you blessed, for you will be a delightful land,” says the Lord of armies. ; nor will the vine in the field prove fruitless to you,” says the Lord of armies.
What "nation" are Christians? What "storehouse" do we have? What "ground" do Christians have? What "land" are Christians? This was written to ancient Israel.
Which was never discussed as such in the New Testament. You're grasping at straws, and you have no sound biblical support for your position.
Tithing is no more part of the new covenant than the stoning of adulterers, the exclusion of lepers, or the wholesale slaughter of rams and bulls. The Law is not a smorgasbord from which you can drag over to the new covenant what bits suit you (or your pastor). Giving in the new covenant is entirely voluntary as to timing, amount, percentage, and purpose.
By the way, Abraham didn't even tithe from his own goods. Think on that before you respond further.
Tithing is no more part of the new covenant than the stoning of adulterers, the exclusion of lepers, or the wholesale slaughter of rams and bulls. The Law is not a smorgasbord from which you can drag over to the new covenant what bits suit you (or your pastor). Giving in the new covenant is entirely voluntary as to timing, amount, percentage, and purpose.
By the way, Abraham didn't even tithe from his own goods. Think on that before you respond further.
It was written to believers! Not everything in the Old Testament has been abolished.
We now are brothers and sisters in Christ with the Old Testament saints.
They were saved the exact same way as we are now, by faith in the Messiah.
They looked forward to His sacrifice, we look back at His sacrifice.
We now are brothers and sisters in Christ with the Old Testament saints.
They were saved the exact same way as we are now, by faith in the Messiah.
They looked forward to His sacrifice, we look back at His sacrifice.
Nowhere is tithing stated as mandatory in the NT. 1 Corinthians 16:2 states "portion". 2 Corinthians 8 is a helpful guide to how it can be done.
Having said all that, I personally give 1/10th of any "windfall" money I receive. I give more right now as my expenses are low. That will likely change soon. God desires that we be liberal. "Liberal" may be little for some or a lot for others.
The sooner Christians realise that 100% of our income is supplied by our heavenly Father, the better. As in the case of Ananias and Sapphira, we are at liberty to give or not. However, there is the principle of sowing and reaping. Those who are generous will be blessed by God, and not only financially.
Having said all that, I personally give 1/10th of any "windfall" money I receive. I give more right now as my expenses are low. That will likely change soon. God desires that we be liberal. "Liberal" may be little for some or a lot for others.
The sooner Christians realise that 100% of our income is supplied by our heavenly Father, the better. As in the case of Ananias and Sapphira, we are at liberty to give or not. However, there is the principle of sowing and reaping. Those who are generous will be blessed by God, and not only financially.