Thought policing and "trigger words" in Christian community

[BenjaminN]

And rightly so.

It is a grave error to confuse and confound the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body from Pentecost to the Rapture) and Israel (the redeemed and restored nation of Israel consisting of twelve tribes living in greater Israel).

Replacement Theology does great damage to all the biblical prophecies pertaining to Israel in the future, AFTER the Second Coming of Christ.

God has only one covenant people, scattered Israel who broke the old covenant, is the adopted, regathered Church / Israel of God's new covenant by the blood sacrifice of God's son Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Maschiach, who came to gather ALL God's children into one.


John 11 (ESV)

51 He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but also to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.

After the future restoration of the land of Israel (as prophesied in Ezekiel 37-48), God's covenant people returns in future as prophesied to their covenant land, when they keep God's new covenant of God's law written on their minds and hearts. God's covenant people, regathered Israel that was scattered among all the nations of the earth, are the Church of the Jew, our King Yeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah.

Everything here on this earth, reach its completion at the second coming of Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach. This earth cease to exist at His second coming, which is the start of His Millenia Kingdom, when Jesus' / Yeshua's preparation of the new heaven and earth will be completed, and the old will be destroyed.

Concerning the tribulation, God's elect will not fear, but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. The great tribulation will not be a tribulation at all, for those that are not from God's elect, as they will go on with their lives as they would have taken the mark of the beast. Pre-tribulation rapture is a false hope teaching not founded in scripture. The rapture is at the end of all ages, at the second coming of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah, for his elect people, he will come down from heaven, the dead will be raised, and those that have died in Christ will together with those who are alive in Christ, meet Christ in the sky. Those that will be left behind at the rapture of Yeshua ha'Mashiach's / Jesus the Messiah's second coming, will be destroyed by the fire that will consume what is left of the earth.


Matthew 24 (ESV)

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, 'Look, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, 'Look, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


2 Thessalonians 2 (ESV)

8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


After the great tribulation, this is when the true rapture happens, at the return of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah:

1 Thessalonians 4 (ESV)

15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

 

[oldethennew]

truth,
please, just learn to receive, whether you like/agree with it or not, this is what a 'true Christian' does!!!
they HEAR, they RECEIVE, they ANALYZE , and then they remember that they are supposed to Love,
and hear, and then 'move-on', especially when a 'group' of Christians are correcting in Love...
if this is NOT APPARENT to one, then, we have a problem...

 

[oldethennew]

God has only one covenant people, scattered Israel who broke the old covenant, is the adopted, regathered Church / Israel of God's new covenant by the blood sacrifice of God's son Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Maschiach, who came to gather ALL God's children into one.


John 11 (ESV)

51 He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but also to gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.

After the future restoration of the land of Israel (as prophesied in Ezekiel 37-48), God's covenant people returns in future as prophesied to their covenant land, when they keep God's new covenant of God's law written on their minds and hearts. God's covenant people, regathered Israel that was scattered among all the nations of the earth, are the Church of the Jew, our King Yeshua ha'Maschiach / Jesus the Messiah.

Everything here on this earth, reach its completion at the second coming of Jesus Christ / Yeshua ha'Mashiach. This earth cease to exist at His second coming, which is the start of His Millenia Kingdom, when Jesus' / Yeshua's preparation of the new heaven and earth will be completed, and the old will be destroyed.

Concerning the tribulation, God's elect will not fear, but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. The great tribulation will not be a tribulation at all, for those that are not from God's elect, as they will go on with their lives as they would have taken the mark of the beast. Pre-tribulation rapture is a false hope teaching not founded in scripture. The rapture is at the end of all ages, at the second coming of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah, for his elect people, he will come down from heaven, the dead will be raised, and those that have died in Christ will together with those who are alive in Christ, meet Christ in the sky. Those that will be left behind at the rapture of Yeshua ha'Mashiach's / Jesus the Messiah's second coming, will be destroyed by the fire that will consume what is left of the earth.


Matthew 24 (ESV)

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand. 26 So, if they say to you, 'Look, he is in the wilderness,' do not go out. If they say, 'Look, he is in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


2 Thessalonians 2 (ESV)

8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


After the great tribulation, this is when the true rapture happens, at the return of Yeshua ha'Mashiach / Jesus the Messiah:

1 Thessalonians 4 (ESV)

15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

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Ben,
have you left 'room for the Gentiles', that 'will be GRAFTED IN'???

 

[BenjaminN]

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Ben,
have you left 'room for the Gentiles', that 'will be GRAFTED IN'???

adopted

 

[Truth7t7]

truth,
please, just learn to receive, whether you like/agree with it or not, this is what a 'true Christian' does!!!
they HEAR, they RECEIVE, they ANALYZE , and then they remember that they are supposed to Love,
and hear, and then 'move-on', especially when a 'group' of Christians are correcting in Love...
if this is NOT APPARENT to one, then, we have a problem...

Oldethennew, just try to receive this whether you like it not, all things are not about love, Gods words are offensive to many, even to the point of being martyred for this truth, as the historical church record shows, it's not about political correctness or sensitivity, but truth!

Hear, Receive, And Analyze This Response

Move On?

Offend, Hurt, Hate? No Truth

Trigger Word (Homosexuity) this is condemned by God, will you also policeman my thought and speech, smiles!

The truth of Gods word is offensive to many, even to ones own family members.

Matthew 10:34-36KJV
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

 

[lenna]

Are you referring to [member] "Truth7t7" (in some posts before yours, in this thread)? Because... he does not believe what it is you are suggesting he does.

Perhaps you are confusing this member with another member ?? It seems so, to me.

I see

are you his lawyer? why can't he answer for himself

that would be because he has posted what I said he posted

perhaps ask him, after counsel of course, why he is falsely accusing the op of this thread

 

[oldethennew]

Oldethennew, just try to receive this whether you like it not, all things are not about love, Gods words are offensive to many, even to the point of being martyred for this truth, as the historical church record shows, it's not about political correctness or sensitivity, but truth!

Hear, Receive, And Analyze This Response

Move On?

Offend, Hurt, Hate? No Truth

Trigger Word (Homosexuity) this is condemned by God, will you also policeman my thought and speech, smiles!

The truth of Gods word is offensive to many, even to ones own family members.

Matthew 10:34-36KJV
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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group Hugs going on up in here...

 

[Dino246]

The perfect example of using a (Trigger) word, and thought policing in the name of political correctness (Sensitivity) Offend, Hurt, Hate, Smiles

The truth of Gods word is offensive to many, even to ones own family members.

Matthew 10:34-36KJV
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

You aren't fooling anyone besides yourself.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

I believe the point that is being made is as pertains to tact.
One doesn't lead by a good example when defending their understanding of the word when they use hate filled attack words. Words that intend to offend, hurt, and shut down those opposed to that offenders beliefs.

We have an example in this thread as to how not to go about providing a righteous example of being in the word. There are plenty of people who read the word of God and then there are those who are in the word of God.

There was a thread before and it's long past now so as not to recall its title however, what entered that discussion was how to deal with the verbally abusive and/or the dark minded.We do know there are non-Christians who pose as Christians just for fun and to demean Christians.
One such method was to have fun with it. Because the verbally abusive, the dark minded, the slanderers, the liars who reword a Christian's post in order to attack that Christian, are in this world. Why not have a laugh rather than feel upset at their efforts, which feeds them and encourages them to continue.

If you care to read such people just add, "...in bed" to their remarks.

As in, "You're an idiot! When did you think you knew anything about the bible moron!.....in bed."

I tried that with a cop who took issue with my nearly expired temporary tag. "Miss, you're going to be driving illegally in six hours if you don't get your tag changed to a permanent registration."
I was on my way to the DMV when he pulled me over.
" I could give you a ticket now you know, (no he couldn't), what do you say about that? " answered aloud and why not: "in bed."

Who knew cops have a sense of humor? I don't.
Kidding! Not really.
In bed.

Your rowdy.

 

[soggykitten]

Your rowdy.

Yes.
Cops aren't fond of that trait either.
Um, so I've heard.

 

[Truth7t7]

I see

are you his lawyer? why can't he answer for himself

that would be because he has posted what I said he posted

perhaps ask him, after counsel of course, why he is falsely accusing the op of this thread

No false accusation, a formulated opinion on questions asked and not directly answered, and that's my opinion

Lawyer?

I believe it was Divinewatermarks observation and opinion also, are you now the thought police, trying to silence opposing views?

Big Smiles!

 

[soggykitten]

Oldethennew, just try to receive this whether you like it not, all things are not about love, Gods words are offensive to many, even to the point of being martyred for this truth, as the historical church record shows, it's not about political correctness or sensitivity, but truth!

Hear, Receive, And Analyze This Response

Move On?

Offend, Hurt, Hate? No Truth

Trigger Word (Homosexuity) this is condemned by God, will you also policeman my thought and speech, smiles!

The truth of Gods word is offensive to many, even to ones own family members.

Matthew 10:34-36KJV
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Just for Cheetos and giggles, and likely a wasted effort to get through. You are aware that being gay is not a sin?
The sin is when someone who is gay acts on their homosexual impulses.

 

[soggykitten]

Curious, where in the scriptures of the old testament are we informed God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because their sin was homosexuality?

 

[Truth7t7]

Just for Cheetos and giggles, and likely a wasted effort to get through. You are aware that being gay is not a sin?
The sin is when someone who is gay acts on their homosexual impulses.

Impure sexual thoughts are not the mind of Christ, whether hetero or homo in nature, it's all sin

God dosent create homosexuals it's a learned process, nature teaches every human that boy butterfly chases girl butterfly, and baby butterflies are the outcome.

Do I feel the pain of many that have endured suffering and pain in lifes rocky roads, you bet!

I had a normal childhood, I was in love with the girl next door at about 10, we chased butterfly's and tied strings to them, I rode her to the store and bought her things from my allowance, I learned and was taught to like girls the opposite sex.

Not everybody grew up, watching their dad kiss their mom, showing heterosexual behavior that I learned.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Just for Cheetos and giggles, and likely a wasted effort to get through. You are aware that being gay is not a sin?
The sin is when someone who is gay acts on their homosexual impulses.

So here is a question. If they never act on their temptation are they ... or are they just tempted by that sin?
Kind of like an alcoholic who has never drank, are they alcoholic or is that just their temptation battle?

 

[Truth7t7]

Curious, where in the scriptures of the old testament are we informed God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because their sin was homosexuality?

Genesis 19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Some of y'all need to read Romans chapter 2, the whole chapter, and write a 500 word report on it.

 

[soggykitten]

Genesis 19 King James Version (KJV)
19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.
11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:
13 For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.

Why then was Lot deemed righteous after that?
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

 

[Truth7t7]

So here is a question. If they never act on their temptation are they ... or are they just tempted by that sin?
Kind of like an alcoholic who has never drank, are they alcoholic or is that just their temptation battle?

They are tempted by sexual sin, whether hetero or homo

To act upon the temptation is sin, this modern Godless world is pushing false narratives, no you aren't gay because you have a sexual temptation same sex related

James 1:13-15KJV
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

 

[soggykitten]

So here is a question. If they never act on their temptation are they ... or are they just tempted by that sin?
Kind of like an alcoholic who has never drank, are they alcoholic or is that just their temptation battle?

Someone who has never consumed alcohol is not an alcoholic.

As to the sin question make it personal. Think of a temptation. Are you that person? Or is that sinful temptation you thought of just a thought without consummation?