Thou shalt be saved

[Dino246]

It's not my view. It's simply reading and understanding the clear words of scripture without bias.

You can 1st start with Jesus' own words as captured in Mark 16:15-16; what dud he say was necessary? Just belief? No. Belief + baptism. Is that all? No. And you won't find it all in any one passage nor continually repeated by bible characters.

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

A good example of what's required that adds yet another element is found in Acts 8, in the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch. There you'll see that Jesus was preached by Philip, as well as baptism since the eunuch asjed about it, and what was the eunuch also asked and told by Philip? He was asked if he believed he could be baptized, after which, the eunuch verbally confessed his belief, which is also consistent with Romans 10:8-10.

And you'll find the remaining element necessary in Acts 2, when the Jews were told they must repent and be baptized.

So, to sum it up, you have belief/faith, confession of belief, repentance, and baptism, immersion in water, for the forgiveness of sins.

That's it as defined by scripture. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's easy to make an open-and-shut case when you shut the door before letting the anomalies in:

John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved,

Acts 2:21 whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[homwardbound]

No, didn't miss it. Belief is only a start. It takes more than just believing. As I said, it'd be nice if that's all that was required, but it's not.

It takes to continue to believe God in risen Son. That is what I see after a long walk off a short pier daily, in trying, seeing "I" can't do it, only Son could and did it for me and all the world of people on that cross, reconciled us all to believe God and stand in belief, even going through any trouble(s)
Romans 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

1. 2 Corinthians 5:18
   And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
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2. 2 Corinthians 5:20
   Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.
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3. Colossians 1:21
   And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Reconciled is Forgiven by God through Son's done work, done once for us all to believe, then receive the risen Son and be willing to be led by his done work on earth first in love to all, not a few as only flesh nature can only do, this flesh nature cannot do true love to all unless born new by God Father revealing it to all those that will not quit belief to God

Authorized (King James) Version

Col. 1:21-23

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

therefore, will I, you and others continue in the risen son given us by Father for us to be new automatically, in love to all?

Continued belief, is not denying God to me, especially through any and all troubles here on earth, we all go through, thank you

 

[DJT_47]

It's easy to make an open-and-shut case when you shut the door before letting the anomalies in:

John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved,

Acts 2:21 whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Yes, it's easy to make an open and shut case when you simply read the scriptures and believe what they say without relying on only one and ignoring the rest. Yes, believing and calling on the name of the Lord are critical, which is exactly what the Ethiopian eunuch did, but he also was baptized? Why, because baptism is equally important as he was obviously taught by Philip, which was why he inquired about it. And likewise, repentance is important as the jews were told on the day of Pentecost. And too, repentance was a recurring theme right at the start of John the Baptist’s message ministry, as his baptism was called the baptism of repentance. Jesus as well stressed the importance of repentance as we'll as remission of sins as in in Luke 24. So, is one only necessary or arevthey all necessary?? They all are, and you simply must assemble the pieces to get the sum total of the requirements necessary for salvation. It's all there in plain English.

 

[homwardbound]

Yes, it's easy to make an open and shut case when you simply read the scriptures and believe what they say without relying on only one and ignoring the rest. Yes, believing and calling on the name of the Lord are critical, which is exactly what the Ethiopian eunuch did, but he also was baptized? Why, because baptism is equally important as he was obviously taught by Philip, which was why he inquired about it. And likewise, repentance is important as the jews were told on the day of Pentecost. And too, repentance was a recurring theme right at the start of John the Baptist’s message ministry, as his baptism was called the baptism of repentance. Jesus as well stressed the importance of repentance as we'll as remission of sins as in in Luke 24. So, is one only necessary or arevthey all necessary?? They all are, and you simply must assemble the pieces to get the sum total of the requirements necessary for salvation. It's all there in plain English.

I personally, do not see getting water baptized a necessity. I see doing it is being willing between God and you as a good conscience between God and you, I am speaking of me, being willing. I see Jesus was always willing as his Father told him. Now our Father in Son’s completed work, for us to enter freely and see being willing
ant have to, better do's or else attitudes puts self under Law and that makes a gift given not a gift
Jesus did not have to go to that cross. Father seeks the willing, not legalism, or religion to me.
‘John 4:23-24. It is finished for us to willingly believe. He is risen after he took all sin out of the way first in a one time willing death alone. For us all to now get saved by Father in his risen life given us. Those that will not quit belief se, at least me
God just loves us all, y’all believe, receive and see
it might take a while, years to see this truth. Yet here is a very short time compared to eternity given us, no have to work attached

 

[DJT_47]

I personally, do not see getting water baptized a necessity. I see doing it is being willing between God and you as a good conscience between God and you, I am speaking of me, being willing. I see Jesus was always willing as his Father told him. Now our Father in Son’s completed work, for us to enter freely and see being willing
ant have to, better do's or else attitudes puts self under Law and that makes a gift given not a gift
Jesus did not have to go to that cross. Father seeks the willing, not legalism, or religion to me.
‘John 4:23-24. It is finished for us to willingly believe. He is risen after he took all sin out of the way first in a one time willing death alone. For us all to now get saved by Father in his risen life given us. Those that will not quit belief se, at least me
God just loves us all, y’all believe, receive and see
it might take a while, years to see this truth. Yet here is a very short time compared to eternity given us, no have to work attached

Don't know how anyone cannot see water baptism as a necessity, because such thinking is very plainly contrary to a number of scriptures. Not only that, the scriptures indicate very clearly other benefits of baptism that cannot be achieved any other way other than by baptism, i.e.; remission of sins, being added to the body of believers (the church), receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. BUT, you can believe whatever it is you choose to!

 

[homwardbound]

Yes, it's easy to make an open and shut case when you simply read the scriptures and believe what they say without relying on only one and ignoring the rest. Yes, believing and calling on the name of the Lord are critical, which is exactly what the Ethiopian eunuch did, but he also was baptized? Why, because baptism is equally important as he was obviously taught by Philip, which was why he inquired about it. And likewise, repentance is important as the jews were told on the day of Pentecost. And too, repentance was a recurring theme right at the start of John the Baptist’s message ministry, as his baptism was called the baptism of repentance. Jesus as well stressed the importance of repentance as we'll as remission of sins as in in Luke 24. So, is one only necessary or arevthey all necessary?? They all are, and you simply must assemble the pieces to get the sum total of the requirements necessary for salvation. It's all there in plain English.

that about that person being Baptized, (here is a body of water, (what is to stop me from being Baptized) therefore anyone, anywhere can be Baptized by God, in any earth water, as was seen by that person who came to believe God is risen from the dead for him personally too. It is about good conscience between God and you. You personally are the only one that knows the motive of why you choose to be water baptized or not. As God and you personally, know your own motives, no matter what any mouth of any other person states. Ask and see if your conscience is clear between God and you, if is, then rest if not ask and trust God over everyone else to find out, between God and you, once you see God sincerely does just love you, you can rest in God-quill medicine given you as a gift from God to you.
Thank you Father for this gift to us all to choose to stand in beleif to you in risen Son for them or not
Matthew 3:14
But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
read on, for now I need to do all that is right first
John does it , then, Jesus willingly dies to flesh, then is risen and
Acts 1:5
For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
then Pentecost, where they were only vessels used by Father to tell the truth to the crowd there then and did it
Noting, what happened first before any water Baptism or any rituals of law ever took place?
they got saved without any ritual Law or even any water Baptism, was tias up with that?

And we the people are putting the cart before the horse in this present day with, hey you over there you better or else attitudes of the first born flesh nature owning it our way. as If we know better, really?

As I see Paul did not come to water Baptize anyone, he came to tell the truth of God and what is now done for them through Son's death, burial as proof and resurrection, where the new life for anyone resides and is not of work any work to get in or for to stay in as man religion does this to this day, I see anyways, and am standing in trust to Father to get this through today, to us all, God is Love, true Love forever to us all given through the risen Son for us all to do the same Love freely given us all, not a few as I used to only do that too, that got taught to me from religion as if I was a person better than others
When no way am I or anyone else since God has no respect of persons, None! y'all

 

[homwardbound]

Don't know how anyone cannot see water baptism as a necessity, because such thinking is very plainly contrary to a number of scriptures. Not only that, the scriptures indicate very clearly other benefits of baptism that cannot be achieved any other way other than by baptism, i.e.; remission of sins, being added to the body of believers (the church), receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. BUT, you can believe whatever it is you choose to!

the same for all thank you, we can believe as we want to believe, no one has to live like a refugee, hoping you are not living like a refugee under Law to be saved, thanks
Grace to us all thank you father and Son as Won for us all to beleive this truth consciously or not
Father knows best Jeremiah 29:11

 

[DJT_47]

that about that person being Baptized, (here is a body of water, (what is to stop me from being Baptized) therefore anyone, anywhere can be Baptized by God, in any earth water, as was seen by that person who came to believe God is risen from the dead for him personally too. It is about good conscience between God and you. You personally are the only one that knows the motive of why you choose to be water baptized or not. As God and you personally, know your own motives, no matter what any mouth of any other person states. Ask and see if your conscience is clear between God and you, if is, then rest if not ask and trust God over everyone else to find out, between God and you, once you see God sincerely does just love you, you can rest in God-quill medicine given you as a gift from God to you.
Thank you Father for this gift to us all to choose to stand in beleif to you in risen Son for them or not
Matthew 3:14
But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
read on, for now I need to do all that is right first
John does it , then, Jesus willingly dies to flesh, then is risen and
Acts 1:5
For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
then Pentecost, where they were only vessels used by Father to tell the truth to the crowd there then and did it
Noting, what happened first before any water Baptism or any rituals of law ever took place?
they got saved without any ritual Law or even any water Baptism, was tias up with that?

And we the people are putting the cart before the horse in this present day with, hey you over there you better or else attitudes of the first born flesh nature owning it our way. as If we know better, really?

As I see Paul did not come to water Baptize anyone, he came to tell the truth of God and what is now done for them through Son's death, burial as proof and resurrection, where the new life for anyone resides and is not of work any work to get in or for to stay in as man religion does this to this day, I see anyways, and am standing in trust to Father to get this through today, to us all, God is Love, true Love forever to us all given through the risen Son for us all to do the same Love freely given us all, not a few as I used to only do that too, that got taught to me from religion as if I was a person better than others
When no way am I or anyone else since God has no respect of persons, None! y'all

The fact is Apollos was doing most of the baptisms. Read on a bit further to
1COR 3:6

6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase

And you choose to be baptized as aforementioned, to remove, sins, to be added to the body of Christ, to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, and because it's a commandment!

 

[homwardbound]

The fact is Apollos was doing most of the baptisms. Read on a bit further to
1COR 3:6

6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase

And you choose to be baptized as aforementioned, to remove, sins, to be added to the body of Christ, to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, and because it's a commandment!

No, I do and did Water Baptoism as a good conscience towards God, not for flesh sin removal
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
The above is what Peter finally learned, growing up, after getting rebuked by Paul in Galatia over his fear he had of the other Apostles still under Law also. Peter was learning new, as we all are from day one anyone is saved by God Father and even those not yet saved, we all have learning to do, at least me
There is a difference from Acts to Epistles
And Peter in 1 Peter 3 at the end of that Epistle, mentioned Paul, a hard one to learn from, yet Paul is true too.
Okay, therefore I see trusting God is from in risen Son to see truth over many errors of self works of in this world (Luke 18:9-14)
Note this too: Peter saw, the Gentile house get saved, after God spoke through Peter's mouth to them, saw them saved, Perplexed, he went to the others and said, Hey I saw them get saved without any rituals. God just poured out on therm his Salvation, no water Baptism, it was Spirit baptism. They, some Apostles, (James and not sure who else) went to Galatia to spy out this liberty and Peter removed himself from the Gentiles and hid. That is what Paul rebuked Peter about, claiming liberty, then hiding from freedom given him to eat freely, with them. when the Apostles showed up to spy out the Liberty.
There is much deep learning going on to learn for me and everyone else daily, about Love and mercy given to all, not just a few as religion(s) only teach, after self gain, I even had that for a long time in me and fought others and not all, if I agreed with others or not, making me a special person over others. I am not, I am a person the same as everyone else that God loves also. Believe, between God Father and You, Son, Jesus is risen for you, then thank God for this gift sand trust in love and mercy given you to do the same for all, not just those you think are right and you agree with. Not easy, yet.m getting born new frees one to love all.
You claim love, do you love your neighbor the same as God loves you? Really? So when you condemn another person for whatever, then you are condemned in that same judgement are you?
Stop, Cede, start love God's type of Love (1 Cor 13:4-7) can't do that after trying to do that. Then ask God to impute that in you and be new in God's Spirit and truth thank you
No more rituals, commands, have to's, should have, better next time or else attitudes of flesh nature trying to be good enough. Now new, one is now willing between God and themselves, then all ar loved from God though God's kids, to them personally too, having no need for anyone else to see it too.
thanking God just loves us all y'all. Would Christ have gone to that cross willingly, if God does not love us all?

 

[DJT_47]

No, I do and did Water Baptoism as a good conscience towards God, not for flesh sin removal
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
The above is what Peter finally learned, growing up, after getting rebuked by Paul in Galatia over his fear he had of the other Apostles still under Law also. Peter was learning new, as we all are from day one anyone is saved by God Father and even those not yet saved, we all have learning to do, at least me
There is a difference from Acts to Epistles
And Peter in 1 Peter 3 at the end of that Epistle, mentioned Paul, a hard one to learn from, yet Paul is true too.
Okay, therefore I see trusting God is from in risen Son to see truth over many errors of self works of in this world (Luke 18:9-14)
Note this too: Peter saw, the Gentile house get saved, after God spoke through Peter's mouth to them, saw them saved, Perplexed, he went to the others and said, Hey I saw them get saved without any rituals. God just poured out on therm his Salvation, no water Baptism, it was Spirit baptism. They, some Apostles, (James and not sure who else) went to Galatia to spy out this liberty and Peter removed himself from the Gentiles and hid. That is what Paul rebuked Peter about, claiming liberty, then hiding from freedom given him to eat freely, with them. when the Apostles showed up to spy out the Liberty.
There is much deep learning going on to learn for me and everyone else daily, about Love and mercy given to all, not just a few as religion(s) only teach, after self gain, I even had that for a long time in me and fought others and not all, if I agreed with others or not, making me a special person over others. I am not, I am a person the same as everyone else that God loves also. Believe, between God Father and You, Son, Jesus is risen for you, then thank God for this gift sand trust in love and mercy given you to do the same for all, not just those you think are right and you agree with. Not easy, yet.m getting born new frees one to love all.
You claim love, do you love your neighbor the same as God loves you? Really? So when you condemn another person for whatever, then you are condemned in that same judgement are you?
Stop, Cede, start love God's type of Love (1 Cor 13:4-7) can't do that after trying to do that. Then ask God to impute that in you and be new in God's Spirit and truth thank you
No more rituals, commands, have to's, should have, better next time or else attitudes of flesh nature trying to be good enough. Now new, one is now willing between God and themselves, then all ar loved from God though God's kids, to them personally too, having no need for anyone else to see it too.
thanking God just loves us all y'all. Would Christ have gone to that cross willingly, if God does not love us all?

Bottom line on 1 Peter 3:21: baptism DOES save us.
And your understanding of Cornelius is flawed. They received the Holy Spirit as a sign that they (Gentiles) were to also be added to the body, and not just Jews. They weren't saved then, which is why they were immediately baptized. There are no scriptures that say of even insinuate salvation is done that way, but many other scriptures that do delineate how salvation occurs. I'm quite sure Jesus was not wrong when he said

Mk16:15-16

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

 

[DJT_47]

Bottom line on 1 Peter 3:21: baptism DOES save us.
And your understanding of Cornelius is flawed. They received the Holy Spirit as a sign that they (Gentiles) were to also be added to the body, and not just Jews. They weren't saved then, which is why they were immediately baptized. There are no scriptures that say of even insinuate salvation is done that way, but many other scriptures that do delineate how salvation occurs. I'm quite sure Jesus was not wrong when he said

Mk16:15-16

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

 

[homwardbound]

Bottom line on 1 Peter 3:21: baptism DOES save us.
And your understanding of Cornelius is flawed. They received the Holy Spirit as a sign that they (Gentiles) were to also be added to the body, and not just Jews. They weren't saved then, which is why they were immediately baptized. There are no scriptures that say of even insinuate salvation is done that way, but many other scriptures that do delineate how salvation occurs. I'm quite sure Jesus was not wrong when he said

Mk16:15-16

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Okay, I am flawed, you misun what is said, God and I love you, unconditionally.
God seeks the willing for God to lead. I know the old me can’t do it. Thank you