THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[VCO]

No the Messiah came to redeem the whole world. Not just Israel.
"Do you think Israel's purpose has been fulfilled yet?" Yes I do, the Messiah did come through Israel, through the tribe of Judah just like He said. I believe that the word became flesh, born of a virgin, not born of Adam fallen like all of us, born of the Spirit Jesus the God man was the living example of our purpose, what we were created to be. Jesus lived His life NEVER transgressing the will of the Father, spiritually connected in a way us fallen were cut off. Then He laid down His life to pay the penalty we deserve, but He didn't, the Father poured out the wrath that belongs to each one of us on His Son that day on the cross. Isaiah said that it pleased Him to do so. Jesus never having earned "the wages of death" by sinning, lay down His life and was killed by those He came to save for His glory and because He is good on a level we can barely comprehend, but man is it glorious. We can now be reconciled to our Creator, made whole the way we were created to, living to His glory now. I'm sorry man but saying that Jesus didn't do what He said He was going to do, when He said He was going to do it robs Him of glory. Now I say this of course knowing you are not trying to, nor think, you are doing anything but glorifying Jesus.


You quote "
17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."


Yet take Matthew 24
"33So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door. 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. 35Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away "

and tell me it really means "A LONG, LONG, LONG time from now, generations and generations after this, I'm telling you falsely, but I say "this generation", because I want to trick you and leave you looking stupid trying to explain how my very clear words directed to YOU, my disciples in front of me, that I love and the ones I'm speaking to, don't really mean "your" generation, as I clearly said, I mean a VERY distant generation, that will have nothing at all to do with you, so acting like I'm saying this to you when I really mean it for a FAR FAR generation, not this one, is honestly deceptive, and a lie right to your face. Wait but I'm Jesus. I don't sin. Hmmm..... Guess I meant what I said and my judgement did fall on the covenant breakers in 70 AD, destroying the temple brick by brick, destroying all the priesthood genealogies and killing the priest, forever ending the age of sacrifice and the law, all in recorded history, just like I said."

You say "go to scripture", yet you don't listen to it here. What is your scriptural evidence that when Jesus said "this generation", He meant another generation they'd never see? Please let me know oh wise on with all the answers. I'm here to learn teacher. Teach.

ARE YOU GETTING Senile EARLY ? ? ? Just kidding! This GENERATION is referring to the GENERATION that sees ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPENING. It is specific PROOF that the BIBLE was written for ALL generations INCLUDING THE END TIMES. You are reading that verse 180 degrees backwards.

Matthew 24:29-34 (YLT)
29 `And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken;
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;
31 and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.
32 `And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile: When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer is nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh--at the doors.
34 Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass

That I learned during the first year I was SAVED, that the JEWS do not write like us. They prefer to write like a GOOD Newspaper reporter. The give you the Most Important part of the story first, and THEN they go back in and fill in the DETAILS later in the Story. That is a PROPHECY about the END TIMES right after the TRIBULATION STARTS. The SUN and MOON not giving off their light could be a result of NUCLEAR WINTER, or Maybe just because JESUS CHRIST LET GO OF THE UNIVERSE:

Colossians 1:17 (NASB)
17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

Would not the UNIVERSE be Part of ALL THINGS that CHRIST HOLDS IT TOGETHER ? ? ?

WHAT IF HE LET'S GO ? ? ? WOULD IT LOOK FROM EARTH LIKE A GIANT METEOR SHOWER ? ? ?

IS THAT THE RAPTURE, or THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ? ? ? NOT SURE, but it is a PROPHECY ABOUT THE END TIMES.


ONE OTHER THING you should look at this verse, in reference to TIME with the LORD:

2 Peter 3:8-9 (ESV)
8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

This Old HEAVEN (ASTMOSPHERE) and Old EARTH, will be REPLACED immediately after the JUDGEMENT DAY, which happens after the KINGDOM OF CHRIST that first 1000 years is over.

 

[VCO]

MORE INFO ON THE 666 MARK:

Understanding Computers will give you more understanding.

Right now all Microchips have a 15 digit number. When the whole worlds bank accounts goes on one Super Computer, they will have to add 3 more numbers to insure there are no duplicates. NOW with a 18 digit Number, it can be broken up between three hyphenated numbers.
123456-123456-123456. NOW 6 digits, 6 digits, and 6 digits, WILL BE your Permanent Bank Account System, and no one can buy or sell anything without one. With one of these RFID implanted in your right hand or forehead.

The FIRST SIX is already HERE:
https://www.tax.ohio.gov/portals/0/forms/corporation_franchise/2006/naicscodes.pdf
It is used for Taxation purposes. Look at the second column of the first page, AT HOLDING COMPANIES, there is the Bank you have your money in which is the SIX Digit NAICS Code. All they have to do to complete the 6.6.6 is pass a rule that makes it mandatory that everyone has an account number that is compatible to the NAICS Code System.

THE SECOND SIX most likely will be the Geographic Location of your front door.

THE THIRD SIX is Personal I.D. of the Person IN THAT HOUSE.

Yes, that means, you will have to get permission from the GOVERNMENT to MOVE.

I just found that NAICS Code, the six digit Business code for every single business there is. I HAD NO IDEA IT EXISTED.

We could all be under that System in a heart beat. YES that 6.6.6 would control every person on earth's bank account.

SCARY ISN'T IT ? ? ? But I am not worried, because I am a Pre-Trib absolute Believer and we will be gone to heaven for the Wedding of the LAMB, before this gets implemented.

 

[Jimbone]

I will give you that verse, but it comes from the mouth of JESUS. The NAME JESUS was a VERY COMMON NAME, so it is not the Name, Nor even the Son of the Most High GOD, that SAVES. It is recognizing WHO HE IS, EVEN IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HIS NAME, AND believing GOD, in your HEART, that HE IS THE MESSIAH, the Creator of the UNIVERSE. OTHERWISE THOSE 2000 DEMONS IN REGION of the Gerasenes had enough faith to be SAVED.


Luke 8:26-28 (NIV)
26 They sailed to the region of the Gerasenes, which is across the lake from Galilee.
27 When Jesus stepped ashore, he was met by a demon-possessed man from the town. For a long time this man had not worn clothes or lived in a house, but had lived in the tombs.
28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don't torture me!"

IT WAS ALL HEAD KNOWLEDGE, and NOT HEART KNOWLEDGE. They called HIM by HIS NAME, they called HIM Son of the Most High GOD, they knew the Spirit in HIM was GOD, AND THEY EVEN KNEW HE WOULD BE THEIR ULTIMATE JUDGE. Do you even realize how many people that think they are SAVED just because they have the same kind of faith as DEMONS ? ? ?

AND LOOK AT THIS:

Luke 12:8-10 (HCSB)
8 “And I say to you, anyone who acknowledges Me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God,
9 but whoever denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.
10 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven


SO, He who BLASPHEMES THE HOLY SPIRIT, is the same one whoever denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.
Because it is the HOLY SPIRIT'S JOB to try to get us to believe in our HEART (human spirit), instead of only HEAD KNOWLEDGE. Like the saying goes, the distance between NOT SAVED and SAVED, is the same distance between your HEAD and Your HEART (Human Spirit).

I will show another example of this:

Romans 1:19-22 (HCSB)
19 since what can be known about God is evident among them, because God has shown it to them.
20 For His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what He has made. As a result, people are without excuse.
21 For though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or show gratitude. Instead, their thinking became nonsense, and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools


NOTICE, they are not using the NAME OF JESUS, but that IS NOT THE REASON FOR GOD'S REJECTION OF THEM.
THE DID NOT GLORIFY (HAPPENS IN THE HEART) HIM AS CREATOR. That CAN ONLY come from the HEART, enabled by the HOLY SPIRIT.

For that REASON, I absolutely Believe GOD recognized, before the white man got to this Country, Monotheistic Tribes that worshiped THEE GREAT SPIRIT, as Saving FAITH, because they believe the Great Spirit created every thing that IS. They really did live up to the LIGHT they had been given.

Okay from this I feel you are suggesting that if I don't believe like you, and by me proclaiming Jesus Christ the King of Kings right now, ruling with all authority in heaven and on earth, until all enemies have been made a footstool for His feet. I feel like you are saying that I am denying the Son? possibly blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I truly hope that's not what your suggesting, because that's almost cult like behavior on your part, plus it's so warped it's got you saying I am denying Jesus.

Truth
Me: Jesus is King right now!!!!!!!!

You: Jesus is King.......just not yet!

This equals me denying Christ? Really? Are you sure?

 

[Jimbone]

Isaiah 46:10-13 (NCV)
10 From the beginning I told you what would happen in the end. A long time ago I told you things that have not yet happened. When I plan something, it happens. What I want to do, I will do.
11 I am calling a man from the east to carry out my plan; he will come like a hawk from a country far away. I will make what I have said come true; I will do what I have planned.
12 Listen to me, you stubborn people, who are far from what is right.
13 I will soon do the things that are right. I will bring salvation soon. I will save Jerusalem and bring glory to Israel.“

Ezekiel 34:24-31 (HCSB)
24 I, Yahweh, will be their God, and My servant David will be a prince among them. I, Yahweh, have spoken.
25 “I will make a covenant of peace with them and eliminate dangerous animals in the land, so that they may live securely in the wilderness and sleep in the forest.
26 I will make them and the area around My hill a blessing: I will send down showers in their season—showers of blessing.
27 The trees of the field will give their fruit, and the land will yield its produce; My flock will be secure in their land. They will know that I am Yahweh when I break the bars of their yoke and rescue them from the hands of those who enslave them.
28 They will no longer be prey for the nations, and the wild animals of the land will not consume them. They will live securely, and no one will frighten ⌊them⌋.
29 I will establish for them a place renowned for ⌊its⌋ agriculture, and they will no longer be victims of famine in the land. They will no longer endure the insults of the nations.
30 Then they will know that I, Yahweh their God, am with them, and that they, the house of Israel, are My people.” ⌊This is⌋ the declaration of the Lord GOD.
31 “You are My flock, the {mortal} human flock of My pasture, and I am your God.” ⌊This is⌋ the declaration of the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 37:25-28 (HCSB)
25 “They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live in it forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish and multiply them and will set My sanctuary among them forever. {Fourth Temple}
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 When My sanctuary is among them forever, the nations will know that I, Yahweh, sanctify Israel.”

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This CHART is fairly Accurate in my Opinion. Israel's Trials, is also 70th Week of Daniel, also Called Jacob's Trouble. There Should be a line at the mid-point of 7 years of Tribulations, marking when Antichrist will march into the TEMPLE demanding everyone Worship him.

This is one of the biggest reasons I reject your view. If I need a guru and charts to understand why God's word means the opposite of what it says it send red flags all up. Also when I start really looking into where these teachings originated from, and the fruit it bears, I have to reject it. I've found too much out about it to support it, and not only that, and WAY above that the bible does not teach what this chart says, I know "I" can't convince you, only you can pray for God to guide you, and again I want you to know I pray the same thing for myself. I want truth period and I trust His Spirit to guide me to all truth, not only that I trust Him to guide you as well, but throwing scripture after scripture, after scripture at me, scriptures that I believe in, and I believe support my view more than yours all day long, then I could shoot them right back at you to no avail, but suggesting that rejecting this view is denying Jesus or blasphemy kind of puts this all on another level. It's insulting and I'm not coming at you like that.

 

[Jimbone]

ARE YOU GETTING Senile EARLY ? ? ? Just kidding! This GENERATION is referring to the GENERATION that sees ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPENING. It is specific PROOF that the BIBLE was written for ALL generations INCLUDING THE END TIMES. You are reading that verse 180 degrees backwards.

Matthew 24:29-34 (YLT)
29 `And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken;
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;
31 and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his chosen from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.
32 `And from the fig-tree learn ye the simile: When already its branch may have become tender, and the leaves it may put forth, ye know that summer is nigh,
33 so also ye, when ye may see all these, ye know that it is nigh--at the doors.
34 Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass

That I learned during the first year I was SAVED, that the JEWS do not write like us. They prefer to write like a GOOD Newspaper reporter. The give you the Most Important part of the story first, and THEN they go back in and fill in the DETAILS later in the Story. That is a PROPHECY about the END TIMES right after the TRIBULATION STARTS. The SUN and MOON not giving off their light could be a result of NUCLEAR WINTER, or Maybe just because JESUS CHRIST LET GO OF THE UNIVERSE:

Colossians 1:17 (NASB)
17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

Would not the UNIVERSE be Part of ALL THINGS that CHRIST HOLDS IT TOGETHER ? ? ?

WHAT IF HE LET'S GO ? ? ? WOULD IT LOOK FROM EARTH LIKE A GIANT METEOR SHOWER ? ? ?

IS THAT THE RAPTURE, or THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ? ? ? NOT SURE, but it is a PROPHECY ABOUT THE END TIMES.


ONE OTHER THING you should look at this verse, in reference to TIME with the LORD:

2 Peter 3:8-9 (ESV)
8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

This Old HEAVEN (ASTMOSPHERE) and Old EARTH, will be REPLACED immediately after the JUDGEMENT DAY, which happens after the KINGDOM OF CHRIST that first 1000 years is over.

I know you want to take all those things literally and say "Did the stars fall" , and all that. It stumped me too for a while, when I still though this was addressed strait to me and had no idea about apocalyptic literature that was a Hebrew tradition, and exactly what John wrote Revelation in, but you won't go for that, even when the judgement of Babylon was described in a like matter, it's so over exaggerated as to bring in the overwhelming crushing feeling of doom. Yeah, *I'm sure that's too far fetched to you, but "this generation" meaning tons of generations after you, and that Jesus told them these things lying to them just to have His words recorded for us. That's WAY less of a stretch. This view is so incoherent that you can't even see clearly how far fetched it really is.
It's like your whole mindset is self centered, not truth centered. In my opinion when you read yourself into scripture like this, you're messing up. It's just not how it was meant to be read.

 

[Jimbone]

ARE YOU GETTING Senile EARLY ? ? ? Just kidding! This GENERATION is referring to the GENERATION that sees ALL THOSE THINGS HAPPENING. It is specific PROOF that the BIBLE was written for ALL generations INCLUDING THE END TIMES. You are reading that verse 180 degrees backwards.

That literally has to be read into the text period. I've been soft and nice, but this is adding to His word strait up. Does the bible say anything about that?

Disciples- "Jesus, when will all these things take place?"

Jesus- "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."

You add- "He means the generation that saw those things".

Me- NOPE to "you add".

 

[Jimbone]

To make things simple for you:

-The Church is the Bride, constituted of regenerate Jew and gentile. The assembly is still presently being gathered until a near future finalization. They love and serve the Lord Messiah now, though imperfectly. Their abode is in the heavenlies.

-Israel is the Nation, presently unregenerate, consisting of ethnic Israelites only. This assembly will be "regathered" in the near future. After the regathering God will take out their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh, whereby they will love and serve the Lord Messiah forever.
Their aboade is upon the planet earth.

I disagree, I think it is finished just like it says. I don't believe that rejects anyone, or leaves anyone out. I know way to many save Jews to buy into this nonsense that they're good outside of Jesus somehow because Gods got "plans in the future" for them. As I've shared numerous times and that nobody can give an answer to the impossibility not to mention the redundancy of a "3rd temple" destroys the possibility of any futurist interpretation, but I'm called an idiot for thinking a generation isn't 1,000 generations. Whatever.

 

[cv5]

I disagree, I think it is finished just like it says. I don't believe that rejects anyone, or leaves anyone out. I know way to many save Jews to buy into this nonsense that they're good outside of Jesus somehow because Gods got "plans in the future" for them. As I've shared numerous times and that nobody can give an answer to the impossibility not to mention the redundancy of a "3rd temple" destroys the possibility of any futurist interpretation, but I'm called an idiot for thinking a generation isn't 1,000 generations. Whatever.

The Jews are not good outside of Jesus. Nobody is. God himself is going to give them a new heart miraculously and sovereignly, yet future. Furthermore a rebuilt temple is certainly in the planning stages in the reconstituted nation Israel and repossessed Jerusalem.

I mean those are the boots on the ground facts. And they just happen to match biblical prophecy perfectly. So I'm going to stick with biblical prophecy myself.

 

[Diakonos]

Okay from this I feel you are suggesting that if I don't believe like you, and by me proclaiming Jesus Christ the King of Kings right now, ruling with all authority in heaven and on earth, until all enemies have been made a footstool for His feet. I feel like you are saying that I am denying the Son? possibly blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I truly hope that's not what your suggesting, because that's almost cult like behavior on your part, plus it's so warped it's got you saying I am denying Jesus.

Truth
Me: Jesus is King right now!!!!!!!!

You: Jesus is King.......just not yet!

This equals me denying Christ? Really? Are you sure?

Jesus IS king over all...but it has not been fully realized and manifested. That will come in the Kingdom age

 

[Diakonos]

Okay from this I feel you are suggesting that if I don't believe like you, and by me proclaiming Jesus Christ the King of Kings right now, ruling with all authority in heaven and on earth, until all enemies have been made a footstool for His feet. I feel like you are saying that I am denying the Son? possibly blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I truly hope that's not what your suggesting, because that's almost cult like behavior on your part, plus it's so warped it's got you saying I am denying Jesus.

Truth
Me: Jesus is King right now!!!!!!!!

You: Jesus is King.......just not yet!

This equals me denying Christ? Really? Are you sure?

Okay from this I feel you are suggesting that if I don't believe like you, and by me proclaiming Jesus Christ the King of Kings right now, ruling with all authority in heaven and on earth, until all enemies have been made a footstool for His feet. I feel like you are saying that I am denying the Son? possibly blaspheming the Holy Spirit? I truly hope that's not what your suggesting, because that's almost cult like behavior on your part, plus it's so warped it's got you saying I am denying Jesus.

Truth
Me: Jesus is King right now!!!!!!!!

You: Jesus is King.......just not yet!

This equals me denying Christ? Really? Are you sure?

*This is what I meant to post. Ignore post # 1569*

Jesus IS king over all...but it has not been fully realized and manifested. That will come in the Kingdom age.
Although Power can force obedience, only love can summon a response of love, which is the response God desires from us.

Remember how the Shepherd King wooed the Shulamite women in Song of Song's chapter 1? That is how Jesus woos us: with tenderness and a veiled face. "But then, I will see face to face" "And I will will lock eyes with the one who ransomed me, and turned my tears into dancing"

 

[VCO]

This is one of the biggest reasons I reject your view. If I need a guru and charts to understand why God's word means the opposite of what it says it send red flags all up. Also when I start really looking into where these teachings originated from, and the fruit it bears, I have to reject it. I've found too much out about it to support it, and not only that, and WAY above that the bible does not teach what this chart says, I know "I" can't convince you, only you can pray for God to guide you, and again I want you to know I pray the same thing for myself. I want truth period and I trust His Spirit to guide me to all truth, not only that I trust Him to guide you as well, but throwing scripture after scripture, after scripture at me, scriptures that I believe in, and I believe support my view more than yours all day long, then I could shoot them right back at you to no avail, but suggesting that rejecting this view is denying Jesus or blasphemy kind of puts this all on another level. It's insulting and I'm not coming at you like that.

Now you are putting words in my mouth, and I do not appreciate it. I told you WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY SAYS. Man are you PARANOID or what?

Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.


Revelation 19:11-21 (HCSB)
11 Then I saw heaven opened, and there was a white horse. Its rider is called Faithful and True, and He judges and makes war in righteousness.
12 His eyes were like a fiery flame, and many crowns {I forgot it said Many Crowns} were on His head. He had a name written that no one knows except Himself.
13 He wore a robe stained with blood, and His name is the Word of God.
14 The armies that were in heaven followed Him on white horses, wearing pure white linen.
15 A sharp sword came from His mouth, so that He might strike the nations with it. He will shepherd them with an iron scepter. He will also trample the winepress of the fierce anger of God, the Almighty.
16 And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17 Then I saw an angel standing on the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice, saying to all the birds flying high overhead, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God,
18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings {then Christs becomes KING OVER ALL THE EARTH, one of HIS MANY CROWNS}, the flesh of commanders, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of their riders, and the flesh of everyone, both free and slave, small and great.”
19 Then I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and against His army.
20 But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. {first two occupants}
21 The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.



1 Corinthians 15:23-28 (HCSB)
23 But each in his own order: Christ, the firstfruits; afterward, at His coming, those who belong to Christ.
24 Then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign until He puts all His enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy to be abolished is death. {at the end of the Millennial Kingdom}
27 For God has put everything under His feet. But when it says “everything” is put under Him, it is obvious that He who puts everything under Him is the exception.
28 And when everything is subject to Christ, then the Son Himself will also be subject to the One who subjected everything to Him, so that God may be all in all.

Ephesians 1:20-23 (NIV)
20 which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms,
21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

THAT being the Case, there is where JESUS became KING OF HEAVEN. Prior to that the Father was KING.

Daniel 4:37 (HCSB)
37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise, exalt, and glorify the King of heaven, because all His works are true and His ways are just. He is able to humble those who walk in pride.

Tobit 13:7 (NJB)
7 I for my part extol God and my soul rejoices in the King of heaven.

 

[garee]

MORE INFO ON THE 666 MARK:

Understanding Computers will give you more understanding.

Right now all Microchips have a 15 digit number. When the whole worlds bank accounts goes on one Super Computer, they will have to add 3 more numbers to insure there are no duplicates. NOW with a 18 digit Number, it can be broken up between three hyphenated numbers.
123456-123456-123456. NOW 6 digits, 6 digits, and 6 digits, WILL BE your Permanent Bank Account System, and no one can buy or sell anything without one. With one of these RFID implanted in your right hand or forehead.

The FIRST SIX is already HERE:
https://www.tax.ohio.gov/portals/0/forms/corporation_franchise/2006/naicscodes.pdf
It is used for Taxation purposes. Look at the second column of the first page, AT HOLDING COMPANIES, there is the Bank you have your money in which is the SIX Digit NAICS Code. All they have to do to complete the 6.6.6 is pass a rule that makes it mandatory that everyone has an account number that is compatible to the NAICS Code System.

THE SECOND SIX most likely will be the Geographic Location of your front door.

THE THIRD SIX is Personal I.D. of the Person IN THAT HOUSE.

Yes, that means, you will have to get permission from the GOVERNMENT to MOVE.

I just found that NAICS Code, the six digit Business code for every single business there is. I HAD NO IDEA IT EXISTED.

We could all be under that System in a heart beat. YES that 6.6.6 would control every person on earth's bank account.

SCARY ISN'T IT ? ? ? But I am not worried, because I am a Pre-Trib absolute Believer and we will be gone to heaven for the Wedding of the LAMB, before this gets implemented.

It would seem the god of techknowolgy has performed its work of making all thing written in the law and the prophets without effect as oral tradition of men that seek after signs as wonderments

But really understanding the voice of a stranger a Computer is to be more understood then the work of the Spirit that dwells in the believer? Where do you find that kind of idea? The god of techknowolgy?

 

[Jimbone]

Now you are putting words in my mouth, and I do not appreciate it. I told you WHAT THE BIBLE ACTUALLY SAYS. Man are you PARANOID or what?

Okay so because you won't just use YOUR own words to speak to me straight up, and you instead shoot a ton of scripture about denying Jesus, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit, then ask me if I'm, quote "PARANOID or what" when I feel you were directing them at my view. Really man? Then why don't you tell me in your words exactly what you meant then, because I'm not buying it. Honestly how else would anyone have taken those scriptures thrown at them in this conversation. Stop acting as if I'm just "way off base" or something. Wow man has the conversation really disconnected this much?

This is the perfect example, this comment I'm replying to, was 10,000 charters but all you said to me was what I left. I'd like to have a conversation with you. I can read the bible, and thing is that every word you write fits in my view so much better than yours in my opinion, so just throwing scripture at me that I feel supports what I'm saying, plus I've read these verses a few times myself. This is not conversation, this is actually more like hiding behind scripture and avoiding conversation by doing so. I understand we stand on scripture alone, but come on man you can't possible think throwing scripture at me that I interpret differently than you will possibly result in anything. You have to tell me why and I can't lie, and maybe even you've seen a bit more clearly though these talks, but getting down to the brass tax your arguments are a bit hollow and empty. Honestly one of the only cases I've even heard you make ended with a popular Muslim saying, "we can't understand the mind of God", God can do anything no matter how contradictory to the rest of His nature it is, summed up in "allah knows best". I ask about a 3rd temple, that has to happen for any of this to be in the future, give a good argument of why this really can't happen and even if it does is our God returning to a flawed system designed in every way to point to the Messiah. Whom has come and fulfilled all things the Father willed Him to and told us was finished. And the best you can do is "maybe we can't understand God". I say maybe we do understand and what you're saying makes no sense. IMHO.

 

[Absolutely]

Okay so because you won't just use YOUR own words to speak to me straight up, and you instead shoot a ton of scripture about denying Jesus, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit, then ask me if I'm, quote "PARANOID or what" when I feel you were directing them at my view. Really man? Then why don't you tell me in your words exactly what you meant then, because I'm not buying it. Honestly how else would anyone have taken those scriptures thrown at them in this conversation. Stop acting as if I'm just "way off base" or something. Wow man has the conversation really disconnected this much?

This is the perfect example, this comment I'm replying to, was 10,000 charters but all you said to me was what I left. I'd like to have a conversation with you. I can read the bible, and thing is that every word you write fits in my view so much better than yours in my opinion, so just throwing scripture at me that I feel supports what I'm saying, plus I've read these verses a few times myself. This is not conversation, this is actually more like hiding behind scripture and avoiding conversation by doing so. I understand we stand on scripture alone, but come on man you can't possible think throwing scripture at me that I interpret differently than you will possibly result in anything. You have to tell me why and I can't lie, and maybe even you've seen a bit more clearly though these talks, but getting down to the brass tax your arguments are a bit hollow and empty. Honestly one of the only cases I've even heard you make ended with a popular Muslim saying, "we can't understand the mind of God", God can do anything no matter how contradictory to the rest of His nature it is, summed up in "allah knows best". I ask about a 3rd temple, that has to happen for any of this to be in the future, give a good argument of why this really can't happen and even if it does is our God returning to a flawed system designed in every way to point to the Messiah. Whom has come and fulfilled all things the Father willed Him to and told us was finished. And the best you can do is "maybe we can't understand God". I say maybe we do understand and what you're saying makes no sense. IMHO.

Finished is redemption.
Redemption has been accomplished.
Finished.
That is concerning man, whether jew or gentile, no other way to heaven.

The earth is still to be "taken" or redeemed.
In order for that to happen, there must be many things happen.
1)the bride gathered
²)nations aligned and judged.
³)the covenant jews (specifically declared in Roman's as the cut off branch but declared to be restored later on) delt with in a Simi final fashion.....meaning a remnant jewish people seated at the marriage supper.(now remember..Jesus first miracle....THE WEDDING....but look closely...."you saved the best wine for last "
That is rev 14....the jewish covenant people gathered to the marriage supper.

If you leave out the kinsman redeemer (redemption of the gentile,jew,and THE LAND) ,AND LEAVE OUT THE BRIDE,then you will be forced to arbitrary place THE MAIN HEART OF HEAVEN man made pigeon holes.

No matter what position you take on end times....if you leave out the first miracle,and the book of ruth dynamic,your starting place will carry you out of sync with heaven.

Hands down fact.

You must start correctly.

 

[Absolutely]

Btw
God bless you jimbone.
I love your Spirit and honesty.
You are a huge asset to the board

 

[cv5]

Okay so because you won't just use YOUR own words to speak to me straight up, and you instead shoot a ton of scripture about denying Jesus, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit, then ask me if I'm, quote "PARANOID or what" when I feel you were directing them at my view. Really man? Then why don't you tell me in your words exactly what you meant then, because I'm not buying it. Honestly how else would anyone have taken those scriptures thrown at them in this conversation. Stop acting as if I'm just "way off base" or something. Wow man has the conversation really disconnected this much?

This is the perfect example, this comment I'm replying to, was 10,000 charters but all you said to me was what I left. I'd like to have a conversation with you. I can read the bible, and thing is that every word you write fits in my view so much better than yours in my opinion, so just throwing scripture at me that I feel supports what I'm saying, plus I've read these verses a few times myself. This is not conversation, this is actually more like hiding behind scripture and avoiding conversation by doing so. I understand we stand on scripture alone, but come on man you can't possible think throwing scripture at me that I interpret differently than you will possibly result in anything. You have to tell me why and I can't lie, and maybe even you've seen a bit more clearly though these talks, but getting down to the brass tax your arguments are a bit hollow and empty. Honestly one of the only cases I've even heard you make ended with a popular Muslim saying, "we can't understand the mind of God", God can do anything no matter how contradictory to the rest of His nature it is, summed up in "allah knows best". I ask about a 3rd temple, that has to happen for any of this to be in the future, give a good argument of why this really can't happen and even if it does is our God returning to a flawed system designed in every way to point to the Messiah. Whom has come and fulfilled all things the Father willed Him to and told us was finished. And the best you can do is "maybe we can't understand God". I say maybe we do understand and what you're saying makes no sense. IMHO.

The boots on the ground reality is that Jerusalem is in Israeli posession, the precise location of the Temple is very close to being known, and the religious authorities have a fully detailed plan to rebuild the Temple. A rebuilt Temple is quite inevitable, like it or not, believe it or not.

 

[Jimbone]

The boots on the ground reality is that Jerusalem is in Israeli possession, the precise location of the Temple is very close to being known, and the religious authorities have a fully detailed plan to rebuild the Temple. A rebuilt Temple is quite inevitable, like it or not, believe it or not.

I understand what you're saying, I even understand why you are saying and believe this, but they've been saying the same exact thing every since this idea of "scripture was addressed to me, everything written was written to my generation" kind of viewpoint. If these things you listed are enough to convince you our Saviors words were deceptive and meant the opposite of what they actually said, then more power to you, but the the BIGGEST thing is this "temple" you're mentioning here, even if it happen somehow, even if the Muslims give full access to the land and it can be built EXACTLY where it was, in the exact specs as before, you know what that makes it unless God tells us to build it? You know what it is? A pile of bricks.

Why does the temple pointing to Jesus need to come "back" anyway? Didn't get it right the first time? AHH everything about a 3rd temple is SO against everything I know of God.

 

[cv5]

I understand what you're saying, I even understand why you are saying and believe this, but they've been saying the same exact thing every since this idea of "scripture was addressed to me, everything written was written to my generation" kind of viewpoint. If these things you listed are enough to convince you our Saviors words were deceptive and meant the opposite of what they actually said, then more power to you, but the the BIGGEST thing is this "temple" you're mentioning here, even if it happen somehow, even if the Muslims give full access to the land and it can be built EXACTLY where it was, in the exact specs as before, you know what that makes it unless God tells us to build it? You know what it is? A pile of bricks.

Why does the temple pointing to Jesus need to come "back" anyway? Didn't get it right the first time? AHH everything about a 3rd temple is SO against everything I know of God.

You must have failed to watch the video links that I posted earlier. The correct location of the temple is in the city of David well within Israeli territory. The Muslims therefore have no claim nor can they prevent Israel from building the temple. Here are the links once again.

 

[garee]

The boots on the ground reality is that Jerusalem is in Israeli posession, the precise location of the Temple is very close to being known, and the religious authorities have a fully detailed plan to rebuild the Temple. A rebuilt Temple is quite inevitable, like it or not, believe it or not.

Where in the scriptures do we find that kind of promise of reconstructing a temple made with human hands as the abomination of desolation spoken of ? Why two demonstrations? When Jesus walked out of the temple it was made desolate?

Scripture speaks of those who crucify Christ over and over to public shame as if one demonstration was not enough to show the promised work of the Father and Son working as one Good God who is not a man

Is building another temple an oral tradition of men, a law of the fathers.?

 

[cv5]

ALERT! Is the 3rd Temple Under Construction?