The trinity ,can you be saved and not believe in it?

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JaumeJ

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One manner to feel understanding of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as being One.

A looking glass is the creation.

The Father in Heaven sends His Son Who is His reflection into the looking glass.

The Holy Spirit connects the Two for they Three are One.

Come the Last Trump, the looking glass is shattered.

All who have come to the Son are in the Holy Spirit also, therefore all become One in Heaven.

(not perfect but a way to see with some understanding.) God bless all.
 
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The Lord tells us we see darkly, there is no scripture telling us we must see God perfectly in order to be saved. In fact Paul explains that there are differences in understanding that we must accept. Our Lord certainly accepts we understand differently. We are told we must only understand Christ and what Christ did for us.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God (the Father) and Jesus Christ, whom Thou ( the Father) hast sent.
John 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works. Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit of God the Father. It is the Father that is the Holy Spirit, not Jesus. Those that are filled with the Father's Holy Spirit are One with the Father and Son. The Bible says that both the Holy Spirit and Christ proceedeth from the Father. That is where they originated. They are manifestations of the Father who uses them to perform His will.
 

Magenta

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John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God (the Father) and Jesus Christ, whom Thou ( the Father) hast sent.
John 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself; but the Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works. Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit of God the Father. It is the Father that is the Holy Spirit, not Jesus. Those that are filled with the Father's Holy Spirit are One with the Father and Son. The Bible says that both the Holy Spirit and Christ proceedeth from the Father. That is where they originated. They are manifestations of the Father who uses them to perform His will.

John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
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Jesus said that no one knows the Son but the Father and no one knows the Father except the Son and to whom the Son wishes to reveal Him to.
 

p_rehbein

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Regarding the question posed in the OP:

IMO, no, but those who reject the Holy Trinity will only have to discuss their denial of it with Him. I pray they reconsider their bellief prior to having to do so...... just saying
 

ewq1938

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I don't know, but, for what it's worth, Roman's 10:9 says "If thee confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in thine heart God has raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
No mention of the Trinity in this verse.

So? That verse doesn't mention a lot of things.
 

AndrewMorgan

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So? That verse doesn't mention a lot of things.

"So?" This verse doesn't say the Trinity belief is necessary for salvation. I'm not sure of the answer, but this verse seems not to say it IS necessary.
 

wattie

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Someone could believe Jesus is God and entrust their salvation with Him, and then learn the trinity after being saved.
 

JaumeJ

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Here is the first time the Trinity is mentioned in the Word.

Come, let US make man in our image..

However the most definitive mention, and the all inclusive mention is when God told Moses.,

I Am that I Am, or Yahweh. I will be What I will be. For me this has always been the true Biblical reference to what has been redubbed, the Trinity.
 

PennEd

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"So?" This verse doesn't say the Trinity belief is necessary for salvation. I'm not sure of the answer, but this verse seems not to say it IS necessary.
I believe acknowledging Jesus as Lord is an essential component of the Gospel:


Romans 10:9-10
New King James Version



9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
2962. kurios the Lord:
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
God, Lord, master, Sir.
From kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, i.e. (as noun) controller; by implication, Master (as a respectful title) -- God, Lord, master, Sir
 

JaumeJ

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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Unless Isaiah is mistaken, the above says exactly Who the Father, the Son and the hOLY sPIRIT ARE. tHEY ARE oNE,

With theknowledge of the above lesson from our Father always in mind. I am comfortable with Jesus Yeshua being the same ass the Holy Spirit, the Father and the Son always. I cannot say I amable to explain this mysstery, butrt when the FAther identified Himself to Moses He said that He would be What He will be, and this is enough for me, for He declared.d this.
 

Dirtman

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I think its hard to believe in God if you dont believe in him. Thats a kind of weird idea. I think you can believe in God and not know much at all. I think however you will begin to learn about God if you believe in him.
 

phil36

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The trinity ,can you be saved and not believe in it?

A better question would be:

Can someone who is saved and, who knows what God has revealed about himself, turn around and deny that same truth, be saved 🤔

The truth matters. Believers are indwelt by the spirit of truth.

Oneness teaching is just rehashed heresy.. Albeit remolded to sound somewhat orthodox. But, none the less Heresy.

If you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you and you are united to Christ you will not knowingly deny who God has revealed himself to be.
 

Nehemiah6

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I think you can believe in God and not know much at all.
True. At the same time no one can truly believe on the Lord Jesus Christ without believing that He is God who became sinless Man in order to die for our sins. And that automatically shows that there are two persons in the Godhead. And when this converted person is baptized in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, that automatically means that there are three persons in the Godhead. We are not required to explain this, Simply believe it.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Andrew Morgan,

It mentioned God hath raised Him from the dead, meaning Father.

Jesus said to Nicodemus,

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

If Nicodemus read the O.T. from cover to cover, he would also be familiar with the Holy Spirit. When all three are indistinguishable, the end result seems to me like a different kind of God. I love my Apostolic oneness Pentecostal neighbors. I just think that there's a good reason why there's so much in the Bible describing the triune God.

Trinity Thought #2
 
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Can a person be saved and believe in Jesus only? Jesus is the Father,Jesus is the son,and Jesus is the Holy spirit?
Yes.
Jesus was God.
Jesus said, truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. [John5:24]