The Royal Law Confuse with the Animal Sacrificial Law.

BroTan · Dec 19, 2022

According to the word of God it's written in James 1: 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
Also Paul says in Romans 2: 11 for there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

BroTan · Dec 19, 2022

studentoftheword said:

BroTan---what is it that you can't understand about this Scripture below =====

You really want to do the works of the Laws and depend on Laws that show and enhance your sin --and makes you feel guilt and shame ---as you can't keep the laws --you will fail -----the laws are perfect but you are not -----and therefore your corrupt flesh can't keep the laws ------if you so much as think in your mind about committing adultery then Jesus said you have already broken the laws in your heart ====if you break one law you have broken them all ===the Law will never take away sin --the law will never justify you or make you in right standing with God ==only Faith in the Blood of Jesus can do that ---no Faith was needed to keep the laws ----it was through work which was trying to be obedient to try and keep the laws ----

Your taking pieces of Scripture and making up your own Doctrine by and through your own understanding and this is very dangerous for people to be doing -----If you claim to be a True Christian then you have the only person in you who has the ability to give you the right understanding od what the Scripture is saying -----you need to start using the guidance of the Holy Spirit to rightly divide the Word -------

Romans 3

Amplified Bible

20 For no [a]person will be justified [freed of guilt and declared righteous] in His sight by [trying to do] the works of the Law. For through the Law we become conscious of sin [and the recognition of sin directs us toward repentance, but provides no remedy for sin].

Context
There is No One Righteous
…19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

20Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the law. For the law merely brings awareness of sin.

I say ------The law was given to the Jews only -and keep them in Bondage ---------the Gentiles were never in bondage to keep the laws --------

Justification by Faith

21 But now the righteousness of God has been clearly revealed [independently and completely] apart from the Law, though it is [actually] confirmed by the Law and the [words and writings of the] Prophets.

I say --------This scripture is saying here that the law and the Prophets both testify ---give evidence to that God's righteousness comes from NOT Keeping the LAW but comes through Faith in Jesus Christ as said in verse 22 -----

22 This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ for all those [Jew or Gentile] who believe [and trust in Him and acknowledge Him as God’s Son]. There is no distinction,

23 since all have sinned and continually fall short of the glory of God,

24 and are being justified [declared free of the guilt of sin, made acceptable to God, and granted eternal life] as a gift by His [precious, undeserved] [a]grace, through the redemption [the payment for our sin] which is [provided] in Christ Jesus,

25 whom God displayed publicly [before the eyes of the world] as a [life-giving] [b]sacrifice of atonement and reconciliation (propitiation) by His blood [to be received] through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness [which demands punishment for sin], because in His forbearance [His deliberate restraint] He passed over the sins previously committed [before Jesus’ crucifixion].

26 It was to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the One who justifies those who have faith in Jesus [and rely confidently on Him as Savior].

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We still must obey all of God's laws and statues of conduct, from the ten commandments to the least commandment. We cannot choose to obey one without obeying the others. For instance, if it's still good to pay tithes (as many preach), then it is still good to obey God's dietary law (not eating pork, catfish, etc...Leviticus 11:1-47). Similarly, you cannot purposely trip a blind person (Leviticus 19:14) and claim to love your neighbor as yourself. Neither can you break God's Sabbath days (Leviticus 19:30) and claim to love God with all your heart, soul and mind.

Many fight to uphold man's traditional holidays (Sunday the 1st day as the Sabbath, Christmas, Easter and Halloween), but few are obeying God's Holy Days (Saturday the 7th day Sabbath, the Passover, Pentecost, etc...Leviticus 23:1-44). All of God's laws are still good and must be obeyed if we want eternal life. We might not be able to observe everything perfectly, but can fight a good fight. If we do this our prize awaits us at the end. "...if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments" (Matthew 19:17).

BroTan · Dec 19, 2022

Nehemiah6 said:

Really! Well let's read it plainly from Jesus...A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. (John 15: 9, 10)

BroTan · Dec 19, 2022

Now let's look at the second half of the 13th verse in the book of Galatians chapter 3.

Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (Galatians 3:13) Paul is simply quoting Moses, take a look. His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God

that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance. (Deuteronomy 21:23)

Go into the Book of John chapter 19 verse 31 and you will see that Jesus was removed from the cross before sun down. Let's back up in Galatians chapter 3 to verses 10 and watch how we have a different law in the second half of the verse.

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. (Galatians 3:10) This law is part of the commandments. Once again Paul, is quoting Moses, let's take a look. Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deuteronomy 27:26)

Let's take a look at some of these laws in Deuteronomy 27th chapter.

Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen. Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deuteronomy 27:19-26)

After reading through some of these commandments ask yourself, what's wrong with these laws? If we say we are followers of the Lord shouldn't we keep ourselves from doing these things? Yes! If the sacrificial law was the only law taken away when Jesus was nailed to the cross, which would mean all the other laws are still intact. Commandments, High and Holy Sabbaths, weekly Sabbaths and the Dietary law .

We can't stop here. Let's go to the Book of I Timothy chapter one and see if Paul kills the Lords commandments.

Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: (I Timothy 1:5)

What does he mean the end of the commandment is charity? What is charity? It means love fore mankind correct? Now take a look at these verses in the Book of Romans.

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. (Romans 13:8-10)

Take heed to what Paul says, "love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love (which is charity) is the fulfilling of the law. Paul says, "If you LOVE your neighbor you will not, commit adultery, kill, steal, bear false witness nor covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Once again Paul is quoting from the books Moses! As a matter of fact Paul was quoting the Lord God, remember the Lord gave the Laws to Moses.

Take a look. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. (Exodus 20: 8-10, 13-17)

What do we see here? We see Paul is inline with the rest of the Bible. He is not trying to do away with the Lords commandments. It is the false prophets that do not read the entire book from Genesis to Revelation! They are trying to do away with the Lord's laws. Paul was well aware that the law was to be kept. This include the Sabbath day on the seventh day of the week!

to be continue......

Nehemiah6 · Dec 19, 2022

BroTan said:

What was Jesus saying? Did He really expect this man to keep all the commandments perfectly, or did He want this man to seriously examine himself and see that while he may have been keeping six commandments perfectly, he was also breaking four commandments at the same time. So Jesus presented just six commandments to him: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The first four are absent.

The very fact that this rich young man had made his wealth his idol meant that he was already breaking the first four commandments. And even if he had given away all his wealth, how would he pay the penalty for the commandments he had already broken? Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins, and it would be the blood of Christ applied to his soul which would make him acceptable to God. We know all of this in the light of the entire New Testament. But the fact that this young man did not see Jesus as God and ask for the forgiveness of sins condemned him.

Magenta · Dec 20, 2022

BroTan said:

Really! Well let's read it plainly from Jesus...A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing
shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none
good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye
shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. (John 15: 9, 10)

Romans 13:10

Blik · Dec 20, 2022

Nehemiah6 said:

Do you really believe that God wiped out, got rid of all God agreed to before Christ came? Christ said nothing changed in Matthew 5. Matt 5:17-18 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. The rest of that chapter explains how Christ made it better.

The old and new covenant had the same laws, but the old used the flesh to explain them. The new covenant gave those laws in the spirit of the Lord. Under the old covenant they obeyed through rituals that had a spiritual meaning, a spiritual meaning they often did not understand. Under the new covenant the same laws were to be obeyed in spirit and truth.

studentoftheword · Dec 20, 2022

BroTan said:

You can't obey them ---your corrupt nature will not keep the perfect laws ------you will keep missing the mark till you die ---so if you think you can keep and obey the laws still that keeps you in bondage to trying to keep them so if you want to be in bondage to the laws go for it but you can't mix the laws with the Gospel of Grace ------the laws which are 613 need to be kept perfectly by you working to keep them and God's Grace requires no work -----

so your fighting what Jesus accomplished for us on the Cross by even trying to keep the 613 laws ----

Your Slapping Jesus in His Face ------as He said I have come to free you from the Bondage of sin and the laws ---

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So go ahead and keep slapping Jesus in His Face for all he has done for you and remain under the Old Mosaic Covenant of keeping the 613 laws -laws that you cannot keep and keep you shackled to them ---

studentoftheword · Dec 20, 2022

BroTan said:

And again you are taking a piece of scripture and making up your own doctrine as you are quoting this so you can say you need to obey the laws and that is not what this means at all ----

But no good trying to explain the real meaning of it to you are your heart and ears are closed to understand and hear what this is really saying ------

Your just hell bent on following the613 laws and so you go ahead and follow the 613 laws and when you die God will tell you the truth when you go before Him -----

Faith in Jesus is the only way to receive the Holy Spirit -----The Laws require no Faith in Jesus to keep them -------they require faith in yourself to keep them and that will never save you ----or give you the Holy Spirit -----

Your grasping at straws trying to mix the old and new and God Hates mixture ----he says your neither Hot nor cold and therefore He will spew you out of His Mouth -----your LUKEWARM

Your either With or for Jesus or your Against Him ---and Jesus said that Himself ----you either trying to keep the 613 laws or your receiving Jesus and being free from the law -------you can't do both ------

And God gave us new Spiritual Laws in the New Testament ------you never talk about the New Spiritual laws cause Satan has you stuck in the Old Physical Laws which are 613 ---

So Folks I would rely on these 4 New Spiritual Laws Now------ and Let Go of the Old Physical Laws that no one can Keep --and that require no faith to keep -------God says -----without the right Faith it is impossible to please Him ------

The Law of Love ------John 3:16
The Law of Faith ---Romans 3:27
The Law of Liberty --James 1:25
The Law of Provision ----Philippians 4:19

Pilgrimshope · Dec 20, 2022

Blik said:

“Do you really believe that God wiped out, got rid of all God agreed to before Christ came?”

nope he fulfilled exactly what he was saying all along

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.

Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s just that some folks won’t accept what he said in the law and prophets and understand they broke the covenant God made with them and reaped the curse

“See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

( life and blessing )
in that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

( death and cursing )
But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:15-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just as God foretold they would do they broke his covenant and worshipped false gods for generations so

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all was lost but then

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was ( past tense ) an husband unto them, saith the LORD: but this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;

After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-34‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He began to promise he would come and speak his law of salvation in the future

“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that law that’s meant to be written on the heart is the gospel that we are commanded to hear , accept and believe in our hearts (that’s how it gets written there )

The old covenant is fulfilled it was broken and became the cirse God said it would now every person has to accept the new covenant to be saved from the curse of the old

Gods word is true even when he’s warning man of a curse for breaking his covenant law. They broke it and everything he said came to pass upon them then he came in Christ to offer salvstion and a new better covenant

BroTan · Dec 20, 2022

studentoftheword said:

You can't obey them ---your corrupt nature will not keep the perfect laws ------you will keep missing the mark till you die ---so if you think you can keep and obey the laws still that keeps you in bondage to trying to keep them so if you want to be in bondage to the laws go for it but you can't mix the laws with the Gospel of Grace ------the laws which are 613 need to be kept perfectly by you working to keep them and God's Grace requires no work -----

so your fighting what Jesus accomplished for us on the Cross by even trying to keep the 613 laws ----

Your Slapping Jesus in His Face ------as He said I have come to free you from the Bondage of sin and the laws ---

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So go ahead and keep slapping Jesus in His Face for all he has done for you and remain under the Old Mosaic Covenant of keeping the 613 laws -laws that you cannot keep and keep you shackled to them ---

In the word of God it says in (1John 2:3-4) (v.3) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. (v.4) he that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

BroTan · Dec 20, 2022

Magenta said:

Let's read all of that (Rom. 13:7-10) (v.7) Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (v.8) Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. That’s the biblical definition of love, the keeping of God’s law. And you thought love was kissing and hugging and rolling around in bed. (v.9) For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. (v.10) Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

And that is what God’s holy commandments are all about; the first four tells you how to love God and the last six tells you how to love your neighbor. If you love your God you will not do any thing to offend him, like having other gods before him. You will do as he says like remember the sabbath day to keep it holy on the seventh day of the week. If you love him you will obey him when he tells you not to eat certain meats etc… And the same goes for your fellow man, if you love your neighbor you wouldn’t steal from him, you wouldn’t kill him, you wouldn’t try and sleep with his wife and so on and so forth. This is God’s definition of love and it is perfect in its ways. So if you say that you know God, but you don’t keep his commandments, lets see what the Lord had specially written for you. (See exodus 20: 1-17)

BroTan · Dec 20, 2022

Nehemiah6 said:

Let's go back into Matthew 19: 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Notice the young man says "All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?" The young man didn’t need to ask this question to Jesus, because he was already in a good place with the Lord. This is where the story gets interesting, because if you read the full story which we have to do, to get full understanding. We will see that the commandments Jesus mention wasn't the young man problem, it was something else. This is about the young man heart, he did right by keeping the law from his youth up and he was bless, but his heart toward the lord was not all the way in place, because of his possession.

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

So Jesus says if thou be perfect, that means the young was really close to being perfect, but the young had great riches that he couldn't let go, and that goes with what Jesus says in Matthew (22:37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (38) This is the first and great commandment. This was very hard for the young man to do. So let's recap the story a little, the young man kept the commandments from his youth up, all most perfect, except one thing Jesus ask him to do, and that's sell all his possession and come follow him.

So let's continue in Matthew 19: 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Paul says in Hebrews 10: 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, The young man wasn't sinning wilfully, he was told by Jesus what he was lacking, not sinning!

Jesus says in Matthew (22:37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

BroTan · Dec 20, 2022

Pay close attention to what the Chief Apostles says about Paul's writings.

Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. (II Peter 3:14-17)

Pay very close attention to what Peter says, "in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." If we are not familiar with the whole Bible, we will never get any understanding of the Word of God. My advice to those that are seeking the Lord, read the entire Bible, don't start at the Book of Acts and stop at the Book of Hebrews. Read from the beginning to the end, meaning from Genesis to Revelation.

Now let's go back to the book of I Timothy and pick up were we left off… From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (I Timothy 1:6-8)

Notice what Paul says, "we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully. Knowing this that the law is not made for a righteous man." Why isn't the law for the righteous? If we are righteous we are keeping the law.

Remember the Biblical definition of sin is; whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. (I John 3:4) So the law is for whom? For the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for men stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. Looks like Paul is preaching "keep the law" like the rest of the Lord's disciples. The people that teach against the Lord's commandments teach traditions of men.

Magenta · Dec 20, 2022

BroTan said:

Perhaps you could start by not bearing false witness.

TMS · Dec 21, 2022

oyster67 said:

Are you saying that all the commandments that hang on the 2 principles of love, are not to be kept? Laws that hang on loving principles do not get removed because Jesus was loving.

How can they be no longer relevant (nailed to the cross) and hang from these 2 principles at the same time?

If the law was nailed to the cross it means it no longer has any validity, or relevancy for us today.

Adultery, stealing, lying, killing, coverting, taking the Lords name in vain is still relevant today.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

oyster67 · Dec 21, 2022

TMS said:

I'm saying that they are kept.

studentoftheword · Dec 21, 2022

BroTan said:

All you do is just take one piece of Scripture and try to make it say that your right -------

Well enjoy your right -----I will stick with Grace not the law ------the law has no bondage over me ----I am under the Blessings not the curse like you are -----the wages of keeping the law is death as it keeps you in sin ---and so your always under the Curse of the law

Enjoy your Cursings ------

Grandpa · Dec 22, 2022

BroTan said:

Nobody is sacrificing animals, not even those practicing Judaism. So the "sacrificial" law CAN'T be our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.

It is the 10 commandments that are the schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

You can't labour and be heavy laden with something you aren't even doing.

Galatians 3:24-25
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

How can a law that no one is performing or even giving any thought to be the schoolmaster to bring you to Christ? IT CAN'T. Plus, it is one that you don't need help with. You can do it yourself.

But you CAN'T do the 10 Commandments. That's why you MUST come to Christ.

studentoftheword · Dec 22, 2022

BroTan said:
The sacrificial law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ.

No ---your wrong with this statement ---you need to stop giving out False Doctrine ----you need to read the Old Testament again and pray for understanding of all the laws and why they were given --------

Your just rambling on and on and what your dishing out is mostly False Doctrine and if people who are reading your rants are not schooled in what the Scripture is really saying they are being FED Wrong Doctrine and You are sending them down the Wrong Path ------So you should be concerned about that in my view -------

Food for thought for US ALL

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