The Rapture

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I have no idea! I know He had a body after He had risen but there was also something very different about that body because Mary did not recognize Him and thought He was some other person...and John describes Him as looking like He had been slain...and that body even had the hole in His side and hands...
 
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heartofdavid

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how does this work with pre-trib rapture:

luke 17:29
But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Somebody was gathered with the family

Then somebody judged.

Fits pretrib like a glove.

Does not fit any midtrib deal. You would need some antichrist in power for the entire region,along with what you guys call "tribulation"
 
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Allenbee

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Be careful with Monte Judah and his ministry.
Another messianic jew named michael brown has critized him for saying that the book of hebrews should not be in the bible. Beware of monte judah.


Yes thanks Bogadile, but don't worry as i'm not looking for ANY man as some sort of perfect leader.
I don't trust ANY MAN, not even myself
:p. Yep...everyman is a sinner don't ya know.

We ALL have ONE leader only...JESUS... and this one we love and trust.

There is a fast growing number of Exodus believers, and the amazing thing is... that we all found the SAME BELIEF from personal Bible study. So to me we just share Exodus scriptures and points of view, as each country has different evils.

I mean... we can find famous preachers who are adulterers, thieves etc etc, then see what their beliefs are... and use that to prove their belief is wrong!!! To me that's stupid.

Take Jailbird Benni Hein for example who is pretrib ! Does that change a pretrib believers view of pretrib ? Of course not.

And so it is with all beliefs, but the WORST is the Catholic pedophiles.
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heartofdavid

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Amazing the mocking coming from those that claim to be so right on.

I am not post trib,but try not to personal mock and lampoon the body of Christ.
 
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Amazing the mocking coming from those that claim to be so right on.

I am not post trib,but try not to personal mock and lampoon the body of Christ.
If anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to. 1CO 8:2

Knowledge puffs up but love edifies.
 

notuptome

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Ya know that Jesus spoke of the rapture?

John 14:1 ¶ Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

For the cause of Christ
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Ya know that Jesus spoke of the rapture?

John 14:1 ¶ Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
this is the thing. some say the rapture was only a mystery revealed to Paul 1 corinthians 15:50-52
but now u are telling us Jesus spoke of it also, so which one is it?
the same Jesus also said in luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
 

notuptome

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this is the thing. some say the rapture was only a mystery revealed to Paul 1 corinthians 15:50-52
but now u are telling us Jesus spoke of it also, so which one is it?
the same Jesus also said in luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Get to know your bible better. Paul expanded on this in 1 Thess 4:17 and the passage in 1 Cor 15.

Important thing is what Jesus said not what some others say.

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Jesus also said in luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Would be nice to get a pre-trib rapture commentary on this verse.
 
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heartofdavid

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Would be nice to get a pre-trib rapture commentary on this verse.
Gathered before judgement.

Post trib gathering would need lot to stay,not leave.

Mid trib would be just as problematic.
 

Locutus

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John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

The above is not about a rapture. we can see what Jesus was saying by reading a bit further:

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.


The "I will come again" is the "I will come to you" of John 14:18

The full context needs to be considered.

Adam Clarke's commentary on John 14:3:

Verse 3

And if I go - And when I shall have gone and prepared a place for you - opened the kingdom of an eternal glory for your reception, and for the reception of all that shall die in the faith, I will come again, after my resurrection, and give you the fullest assurances of this state of blessedness; and confirm you in the faith, by my grace and the effusion of my Spirit. Dr. Lightfoot thinks, and with great probability too, that there is an allusion here to Numbers 10:33; : And the ark of the Lord went before them to search out a resting place for them.







 

Allenbee

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Heart of David says;
I am not post trib,but try not to personal mock and lampoon the body of Christ.

What actually do you mean fella ?
Are you saying pretrib,midtrib and postrib believers are the body of Christ, you wont mock and lampoon ?
Or are you saying only pretrib is the body of Christ ?
 
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many say isaiah 66 is about the second coming u see but what about
isaiah 66:20
And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.

we got cars now?????? big problem.

 
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many say isaiah 66 is about the second coming u see but what about
isaiah 66:20
And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD.

we got cars now?????? big problem.

when Jesus returns who knows if theres gon be any cars? could be an EMP that causes technology to fail, collapse of satellites, the judgments of revelation can also cause that, or a solar flare, anything can happen.

da bible says it, its best to believe it. a lotta folks in tha 1800s probably thought israel wont become a nation ever again bcuz there was da mighty ottoman empire but now israel is back! now zechariah 14 is ready to be fulfilled.