The Rapture of the Church is after the Tribulation

[calledoutones777]

Part 2...
And this is what I have sent, not only My Prophetess unto you to tell you. I have sent thy Elect Sister, who is also My BRIDE, for she knows her HUSBANDS NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

I AM YAHOSHUA whose NAME is also carrying the THREE NAMES of the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD in HEAVEN as well as in EARTH, for even the DEMONS that are within this EARTH'S Crust knows MY NAME and they TREMBLE. Call these THREE a "TRINITY", if you must, but they are the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to also BEAR RECORD to MY NAME, for these three WITNESSES are also WITHIN MY OWN NAME, saith YAHOSHUA... I AM YAHOSHUA whose name is carrying the NAMES of My "FATHER" who is "YAH", as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH, the "WORD" who I AM, "YOSHUA", who is also the "SON", as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT", which is SIGNIFIED by the "AH" that is also in My FATHER'S NAME who is "YAH" as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH. Which is also carrying the "SACRED LETTERS" of My FATHER'S "SACRED NAME" which is "YHVH", not "YHWH". The "YHVH" which is also found in My FATHER'S NAME who is... "Y a H o V e H / Y a H u V e H.

Remembering this one thing. My FATHER has MANY NAME and so does LUCIFER. This is WHY IT IS ONLY THROUGH MY NAME can you be SAVED. For I AM that "DOOR" that every man/spirit/soul has to come through, have you not read, or have they not taught you this? Saith YAHOSHUA who is the "CHRIST", meaning the "ANOINTED ONE", unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

I tell you this truth this day.. If My FATHER IS BEARING RECORD TO MY NAME, His "WORD" is "GREATER" then MAN'S, and YES, even YOURS, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ unto YOU, who are of the ANCESTORS of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the ANCESTORS of the JEWS, that DID NOT RECEIVE ME, when I came unto THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... 1John 5:7-13 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the “FATHER", the “WORD", and the “HOLY SPIRIT": AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: AND THESE THREE ARE AGREE IN ONE. If we receive the witness of MEN, the witness of 'the Father’ is GREATER: for this is the witness of 'the Father’ which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of ‘the Father’ hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not ‘the Father’ hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that 'the Father’ gave of his Son. And this is the record, that 'the Father’ hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of 'the Father’ hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father’.

John 10:25-30 Yahoshua answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I DO IN MY “FATHER" NAME, THEY BEAR WITNESS OF ME. BUT YE BELIEVE NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT MY SHEEP, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one

Now you have been warned and this is your VISITATION that I had promised to bring unto you, saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scripture.. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes.
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall.

Shalom.

 

[Absolutely]

Jeus preached a pretrib rapture.
Mat 25
Mat 24
It was he that said "...but pray that you will be able to escape the things about to come upon the earth....."
He also said "because you have kept my word ,I will also keep you from the trial about to come upon the world"
The "one taken,one left" is peacetime setting,as is lots example,and noahs example.
The baby Jesus escape was also prejudgment,peacetime setting.
The 10 virgin parable was peacetime setting.

 

[Absolutely]

Part 2...
And this is what I have sent, not only My Prophetess unto you to tell you. I have sent thy Elect Sister, who is also My BRIDE, for she knows her HUSBANDS NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

I AM YAHOSHUA whose NAME is also carrying the THREE NAMES of the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD in HEAVEN as well as in EARTH, for even the DEMONS that are within this EARTH'S Crust knows MY NAME and they TREMBLE. Call these THREE a "TRINITY", if you must, but they are the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to also BEAR RECORD to MY NAME, for these three WITNESSES are also WITHIN MY OWN NAME, saith YAHOSHUA... I AM YAHOSHUA whose name is carrying the NAMES of My "FATHER" who is "YAH", as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH, the "WORD" who I AM, "YOSHUA", who is also the "SON", as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT", which is SIGNIFIED by the "AH" that is also in My FATHER'S NAME who is "YAH" as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH. Which is also carrying the "SACRED LETTERS" of My FATHER'S "SACRED NAME" which is "YHVH", not "YHWH". The "YHVH" which is also found in My FATHER'S NAME who is... "Y a H o V e H / Y a H u V e H.

Remembering this one thing. My FATHER has MANY NAME and so does LUCIFER. This is WHY IT IS ONLY THROUGH MY NAME can you be SAVED. For I AM that "DOOR" that every man/spirit/soul has to come through, have you not read, or have they not taught you this? Saith YAHOSHUA who is the "CHRIST", meaning the "ANOINTED ONE", unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

I tell you this truth this day.. If My FATHER IS BEARING RECORD TO MY NAME, His "WORD" is "GREATER" then MAN'S, and YES, even YOURS, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ unto YOU, who are of the ANCESTORS of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the ANCESTORS of the JEWS, that DID NOT RECEIVE ME, when I came unto THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... 1John 5:7-13 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the “FATHER", the “WORD", and the “HOLY SPIRIT": AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: AND THESE THREE ARE AGREE IN ONE. If we receive the witness of MEN, the witness of 'the Father’ is GREATER: for this is the witness of 'the Father’ which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of ‘the Father’ hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not ‘the Father’ hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that 'the Father’ gave of his Son. And this is the record, that 'the Father’ hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of 'the Father’ hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father’.

John 10:25-30 Yahoshua answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I DO IN MY “FATHER" NAME, THEY BEAR WITNESS OF ME. BUT YE BELIEVE NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT MY SHEEP, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one

Now you have been warned and this is your VISITATION that I had promised to bring unto you, saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scripture.. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes.
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall.

Shalom.

Then he basically lied at the last supper.
Read what the savior said and ask yourself why he would lie to them.

 

[Absolutely]

Part 2...
And this is what I have sent, not only My Prophetess unto you to tell you. I have sent thy Elect Sister, who is also My BRIDE, for she knows her HUSBANDS NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

I AM YAHOSHUA whose NAME is also carrying the THREE NAMES of the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to BEAR RECORD in HEAVEN as well as in EARTH, for even the DEMONS that are within this EARTH'S Crust knows MY NAME and they TREMBLE. Call these THREE a "TRINITY", if you must, but they are the THREE WITNESSES that are NEEDED to also BEAR RECORD to MY NAME, for these three WITNESSES are also WITHIN MY OWN NAME, saith YAHOSHUA... I AM YAHOSHUA whose name is carrying the NAMES of My "FATHER" who is "YAH", as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH, the "WORD" who I AM, "YOSHUA", who is also the "SON", as well as the "HOLY SPIRIT", which is SIGNIFIED by the "AH" that is also in My FATHER'S NAME who is "YAH" as in YAHOVEH/YAHUVEH. Which is also carrying the "SACRED LETTERS" of My FATHER'S "SACRED NAME" which is "YHVH", not "YHWH". The "YHVH" which is also found in My FATHER'S NAME who is... "Y a H o V e H / Y a H u V e H.

Remembering this one thing. My FATHER has MANY NAME and so does LUCIFER. This is WHY IT IS ONLY THROUGH MY NAME can you be SAVED. For I AM that "DOOR" that every man/spirit/soul has to come through, have you not read, or have they not taught you this? Saith YAHOSHUA who is the "CHRIST", meaning the "ANOINTED ONE", unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

I tell you this truth this day.. If My FATHER IS BEARING RECORD TO MY NAME, His "WORD" is "GREATER" then MAN'S, and YES, even YOURS, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ unto YOU, who are of the ANCESTORS of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the ANCESTORS of the JEWS, that DID NOT RECEIVE ME, when I came unto THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... 1John 5:7-13 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the “FATHER", the “WORD", and the “HOLY SPIRIT": AND THESE THREE ARE ONE. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: AND THESE THREE ARE AGREE IN ONE. If we receive the witness of MEN, the witness of 'the Father’ is GREATER: for this is the witness of 'the Father’ which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of ‘the Father’ hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not ‘the Father’ hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that 'the Father’ gave of his Son. And this is the record, that 'the Father’ hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of 'the Father’ hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of ‘the Father’.

John 10:25-30 Yahoshua answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I DO IN MY “FATHER" NAME, THEY BEAR WITNESS OF ME. BUT YE BELIEVE NOT, BECAUSE YE ARE NOT MY SHEEP, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one

Now you have been warned and this is your VISITATION that I had promised to bring unto you, saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scripture.. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes.
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall.

Shalom.

"And this is what I have sent, not only My Prophetess unto you to tell you. I have sent thy Elect Sister, who is also My BRIDE, for she knows her HUSBANDS NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, ....."

OK,where is anyplace where Jesus calls us "sister"

I am smelling something here.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This one is easy. As i was asking this question too someone brought up

Zechariah 14:16
And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

So who populates? The remnant of the nations. Thats the post-trib answer.
But dont pin that on me! Im just repeating what i've read lol

That does not answer the question though.

If all saved are raptured, and all non saved are taken out. There are no nations to rule..

 

[Absolutely]

I have never seen a verse that supports pretrib. there are lots for posttrib. Read above.

I have walked in postrib shoes. I know that doctrine well. Thats WHY I know there are no verses.

Pssst,you can not make the same claim. No way. Because once you actually assume (humor me) the possibility of a pretrib rapture,and read what I am saying about rev 14,it is game over.

 

[Absolutely]

The same goes for the orthodox Jews. Once they openmindedly read the NT,it is like a 90% chance they will melt and become born again.

Blinders blind.

 

[Absolutely]

Jeus preached a pretrib rapture.
Mat 25
Mat 24
It was he that said "...but pray that you will be able to escape the things about to come upon the earth....."
He also said "because you have kept my word ,I will also keep you from the trial about to come upon the world"
The "one taken,one left" is peacetime setting,as is lots example,and noahs example.
The baby Jesus escape was also prejudgment,peacetime setting.
The 10 virgin parable was peacetime setting.

Over,and over again,we see it is a pretrib setting of deliverance.

And the last supper dialog is ,of course,another nail in postrib rapture's coffin.

 

[Absolutely]

Postrib rapture is defunkt,debunked,and skunked.

Time to jettison this false junk.

 

[Absolutely]

I doubt those with hardened positions on a post trib will watch this Pastor do a very good job on why it will be a pre trib rapture, but I'll post it anyway. There are tons of verses in context and passages that indicate a pre trib rapture. Some have asked. So here ya go:

They should,because the word of God ALWAYS liberates. Unless you need a spanking LOL.......but even then,liberty follows.

Postrib is fear based. Trib based. Anti pretrib based.

 

[calledoutones777]

"And this is what I have sent, not only My Prophetess unto you to tell you. I have sent thy Elect Sister, who is also My BRIDE, for she knows her HUSBANDS NAME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, ....."

OK,where is anyplace where Jesus calls us "sister"

I am smelling something here.

 

[garee]

The final rapture of the Church. Those asleep in Christ and those who remain on earth reigning on the last day is all one work one twinkling of the eye The final judgment the second death and the receiving of the new incorruptible bodies. We are in the last days.

The Amil no literal thousand years position works best when looking a the "signified language" of God (the book of Revelation) as that which takes the things seen the temporal, and reveals the unseen eternal.


The word thousand represents a unknown just as other words in the portion they must be converted to find the unseen spiritual understanding. . He will come as a thief in the night on the last day

 

[calledoutones777]

A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... Our Savior NAME is not Jesus/Yeshua, in whom they had REPLACED HIS SAVING NAME WITH, throughout My FATHER'S Scribes/Scriptures, when I LEFT YOUR WORLD AGE, saith YAHOSHUA. Just as they had done unto YOU. When the "ADDED" the Title of GOD, then DECEIVE THIS WORLD into WORSHIPING A "GOD" INSTEAD OF, which the very word "ANTI" means "INSTEAD OF". For this WORLD have been WORDSHIPING A "GOD" through the Title of GOD, INSTEAD OF YOUR "CREATOR" in whom we call ABBA, and not GOD, but rather ABBA, which means FATHER, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME unto them, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, the FATHER hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, “ABBA", Father. Mark 14:36 And he said, “ABBA", Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. Roman 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, “ABBA", Father.

For there is ONLY ONE "GOD" in this "WORLD" and his name is SATAN. It is Satan who have been STANDING BEHIND THE Title of GOD. It is SATAN who have BLINDED THE MINDS of My FATHER'S CHILDREN, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfiling the FATHER Scriptures.. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of the FATHER, should shine unto them.

And this is what I have sent unto YOU, not only Thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE, for she is also My BRIDE, in whom I have sent unto you to TESTIFY of WHO I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. 2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

 

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From the midst of the tribulation when the abomination that makes desolate is set up until the wrath of God begins to be poured out upon the desolate is 1290 days:


Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days.


This 1290 day period is called the great tribulation when great persecution comes upon the “elect” during the second half of the tribulation:


Matthew 24:21-22 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be. (22) And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.


Our Father will shorten the great tribulation to 1290 days but promised a blessing on those who made it alive until 1335 days after the abomination of desolation which again proves the rapture/resurrection of those such as Daniel will not happen until AFTER the tribulation during the year of wrath called the end of days:


Daniel 12:12-13 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. (13) But go thou thy way till the end be; for thou shalt rest, and shalt stand in thy lot, at the end of the days.


Jesus gives us some clues hidden in Noah’s days for signs of the timing of the tribulation and this year of wrath:


Matthew 24:37-39 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, (39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


God did not tell Noah when the flood was actually going to start until 7 days before:


Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.


Just as was proven above in Isaiah, the Lord often uses one day to represent one year so too seven days used in Genesis for Noah represents one week of years or 7 years of tribulation as Father showed us in Daniel:


Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Father will show those watching and sober exactly what this “covenant with many” is and when it is made as it will be the sign when our 7 years of tribulation commences.


So the last 7 days of Noah’s time, before the flood waters began on the earth, were spent entering the physical ark with his physical family as a type of the last 7 years left for us to bring our spiritual family to the spiritual ark of Christ while enduring great tribulation:


Genesis 7:7-10 And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. (8) Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, (9) There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah. (10) And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.


But here is a major clue: Noah did not enter in to the ark for the last time until AFTER the 7 days on the first day God began to judge the unrighteous on the earth with water when He broke up the fountains of the great deep and He opened up the windows of heaven:


Genesis 7:10-13 And it came to pass after the seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. (11) In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. (12) And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. (13) In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;


It was not until 40 days into God’s wrath by water that the ark lifted off the earth as a type of the church being raptured/resurrected after our tribulation when God’s wrath by fire is poured out:


Genesis 7:16-18 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God commanded him: and Jehovah shut him in. (17) And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lifted up above the earth. (18) And the waters prevailed, and increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.


2 Peter 3:5-7 For this they wilfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth compacted out of water and amidst water, by the word of God; (6) by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (7) but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.


God broke up the fountains of the great deep and opened up the windows of heaven to overflow the earth with water in Noah’s day but He promises to begin to rain down many types of fire, break open the pit of the abyss, and overflow the earth with fire, smoke, and brimstone through the first six trumpet judgments:


Revelation 8:6 -13 And the seven angels that had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. (7) And the first sounded, and there followed hail and fire, mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of the earth was burnt up, and the third part of the trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. (8) And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; (9) and there died the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, even they that had life; and the third part of the ships was destroyed. (10) And the third angel sounded, and there fell from heaven a great star, burning as a torch, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of the waters; (11) and the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. (12) And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; that the third part of them should be darkened, and the day should not shine for the third part of it, and the night in like manner. (13) And I saw, and I heard an eagle, flying in mid heaven, saying with a great voice, Woe, woe, woe, for them that dwell on the earth, by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, who are yet to sound.


Revelation 9:1-2 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star from heaven fallen unto the earth: and there was given to him the key of the pit of the abyss. (2) And he opened the pit of the abyss; and there went up a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.


Revelation 9:13-18 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the horns of the golden altar which is before God, (14) one saying to the sixth angel that had the trumpet, Loose the four angels that are bound at the great river Euphrates. (15) And the four angels were loosed, that had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, that they should kill the third part of men. (16) And the number of the armies of the horsemen was twice ten thousand times ten thousand: I heard the number of them. (17) And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates as of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone: and the heads of the horses are as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceedeth fire and smoke and brimstone. (18) By these three plagues was the third part of men killed, by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone, which proceeded out of their mouths.

16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.
17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

your verses and mine point to a prejudgement taking up of Noah.

.........and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

"ark" is a type of heaven. Noah was IN the ark...again,atype of heaven. Noah returned AFTER the flood (judgement over...Noah comes back to earth)

Pssst, you need Noah to LEAVE after Judgement,then immediately return ,like in 3 minutes or so.
The postrib model is seriously ,fatally flawed.

Your stretches in exegesis should alarm you.

 

[calledoutones777]

2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

So let me guess. Your claiming peopel who do not agree with you on this are going to hell?

 

[Absolutely]

Those saints counted worthy to remain through to the last trump of the 7 trumpets of Revelation witness “only with their eyes” some of the wrath of God but will rest in their spiritual ark under the pinions of our Father’s Psalm 91 promises until they are lifted up in the rapture/resurrection:


Psalms 91:1-8 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (2) I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress; My God, in whom I trust. (3) For he will deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, And from the deadly pestilence. (4) He will cover thee with his pinions, And under his wings shalt thou take refuge: His truth is a shield and a buckler. (5) Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night, Nor for the arrow that flieth by day; (6) For the pestilence that walketh in darkness, Nor for the destruction that wastethat noonday. (7) A thousand shall fall at thy side, And ten thousand at thy right hand; But it shall not come nigh thee. (8) Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold, And see the reward of the wicked.


1 Corinthians 15:51-52 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.


Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there followed great voices in heaven, and they said, The kingdom of the world is become the kingdom of our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for ever and ever.


The time Noah spent in the ark from “the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month” when he entered till he set foot back on the earth in “the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month” was a year:


Genesis 8:14-16 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried. (15) And God spake unto Noah, saying, (16) Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons’ wives with thee.


Please remember they went by lunar months in Noah’s day which were 29.6 days per month. So 12 months later would have been 355 days thus the reason God told Noah to leave the ark on the 27th day of the second month and not the 17th day of the second month:


12 X 29.6 = 355 + 10 = 365 days or a year of wrath


Noah did not leave the ark to set foot back on the earth until after the full year of wrath was finished which as a type will be the seven bowls which finish the wrath of God:


Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having seven plagues, which are the last, for in them is finished the wrath of God.


Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple, saying to the seven angels, Go ye, and pour out the seven bowls of the wrath of God into the earth.


The saints will not return to the earth until after the year of the redeemed is finished by Jesus returning at His second coming to smite the nations with the sWord of His mouth:


Revelation 19:11-16 And I saw the heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon called Faithful and True; and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (12) And his eyes are a flame of fire, and upon his head are many diadems; and he hath a name written which no one knoweth but he himself. (13) And he is arrayed in a garment sprinkled with blood: and his name is called The Word of God. (14) And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure. (15) And out of his mouth proceedeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness of the wrath of God, the Almighty. (16) And he hath on his garment and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.


Just as it was not until AFTER the 7 days that Noah left the earth in his ark; we are not leaving this earth until AFTER 7 years of tribulation and the “sun shall be darkened”. “Then” and only “then” AFTER these two events does the Lord come with His angels to gather His elect from off the earth:





Many pretrib rapture teachers hang their entire thesis on Revelation 4:1 with this belief that the church is not mentioned again in the book of Revelation until chapter 22:


Revelation 4:1 After these things I saw, and behold, a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, a voice as of a trumpet speaking with me, one saying, Come up hither, and I will show thee the things which must come to pass hereafter.


All of the New Testament is written directly to the “church” but the word “church” is not used in 10 books of the NT which are Mark, Luke, John, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John, or Jude.


The word “church” is not the only word in the New Testament that describe the body of Christ as Paul often referred to the “church” as the “saints”:


1 Corinthians 1:2 unto the church of God which is at Corinth, even them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all that call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place, their Lord and ours:


All of the New Testament is written directly to the “saints” but the word “saints” is not used in 11 books of the NT which are Mark, Luke, John, Galatians, 2 Timothy, Titus, 1 Peter, 2 Peter, 1 John, 2 John, or 3 John.


But the words “church” or “churches” is used 20 times in the book of Revelation in chapters 1, 2, 3, and 22 while the word “saints” is used a total of 14 times in chapters 5, 8, 11, 13, 14, 16,17, 18, 19, 20, and 22 so Father is simply interchanging the words “church” and “saints” knowing it would be hard for some “saints” to understand and thus follow His message:


2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also, according to the wisdom given to him, wrote unto you; (16) as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; wherein are some things hard to be understood, which the ignorant and unstedfast wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Matthew 24:29-31 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (30) and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (31) And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You failed to see where angels gather,not Jesus,and they are gathered from heaven,not earth.
Not to mention,no dead rising.

None of that you posted has any inkling of a post trib rapture.
Noah betrays you with a prejudgement deliverance.

 

[Absolutely]

A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... Our Savior NAME is not Jesus/Yeshua, in whom they had REPLACED HIS SAVING NAME WITH, throughout My FATHER'S Scribes/Scriptures, when I LEFT YOUR WORLD AGE, saith YAHOSHUA. Just as they had done unto YOU. When the "ADDED" the Title of GOD, then DECEIVE THIS WORLD into WORSHIPING A "GOD" INSTEAD OF, which the very word "ANTI" means "INSTEAD OF". For this WORLD have been WORDSHIPING A "GOD" through the Title of GOD, INSTEAD OF YOUR "CREATOR" in whom we call ABBA, and not GOD, but rather ABBA, which means FATHER, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME unto them, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, the FATHER hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, “ABBA", Father. Mark 14:36 And he said, “ABBA", Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. Roman 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, “ABBA", Father.

For there is ONLY ONE "GOD" in this "WORLD" and his name is SATAN. It is Satan who have been STANDING BEHIND THE Title of GOD. It is SATAN who have BLINDED THE MINDS of My FATHER'S CHILDREN, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfiling the FATHER Scriptures.. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of the FATHER, should shine unto them.

And this is what I have sent unto YOU, not only Thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE, for she is also My BRIDE, in whom I have sent unto you to TESTIFY of WHO I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever. 2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

you are implying God is so worried about his name,he has lost track of purpose.

 

[Absolutely]

2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.

Jesus has many names.
It is us that make some policeman legalism out of an emphasis,not Him.

 

[Absolutely]

So let me guess. Your claiming peopel who do not agree with you on this are going to hell?

Any prophetic word should be automatically brought under the searchlight of ,ironically,heaven.
We have a great symphony of beauty,his bible/word.

sour notes are usually detected right away.