THE RAPTURE/END OF DAYS

[Laura798]

Amen. Praise HIS Precious Name, now and ForEverMore!

Precious friend, you DO understand That God Is INFINITE? What finite man CANNOT
understand is how an INFINITE God PAID THE FULL PENALTY of sin! Correct?

Precious friend, Nehemiah6, you have Already Well Posted, elsewhere, THE Most Important Fundamental Bible Doctrine About CHRIST's FULL Sacrifice! But I fear it is "falling" on deaf ears, and through the cracks below!

May God Help us, By GRACE, to reach those who will hear. Amen?:

The FULL PENAL SUBSTITUTION Of our Blessed LORD And SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!

Dear Grace,

The same can be said on the Annihilationist side---please show just one verse that says Christ paid the penalty by dying in the Second Death (which represents DESTRUCTION). It is an impossibiliity since scripture says Christ died once and for all! The second death is the JUDGEMENT of Satan, the demons, and the wicked./unbelievers I'm not sure what Bible you have, but you wont' find that anywhere in the scriptures.

 

[DavidTree]

You said Christ faced the second death. Since you did not correct that then I assume you believe what you said is true. It's 100% false and quite frankly it's blasphemy. I have a feeling you didn't know that, but you're being told now.

Definitely Blasphemy as it would be "Double Jeopardy" in legal terms which the Scripture in no way portrays.

For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison,

Christ's suffering for sin was only prescribed to His life leading up to the Cross - PERIOD

The moment He said "It is finished" - It was Over and from there He went to preach to the spirits in prison.

 

[DavidTree]

Precious friend, thanks for your understanding. Mine is from prayerful/careful
study of God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, for 18 months, ending in a 17-part
study - here is the Conclusion - be Encouraged And Edified, In HIS Word!:

Updated version with armies leaving HEAVEN, and
an army, * arriving on earth!:
Part I

God’s PRE - TOJT Great GRACE Departure!:
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LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding
In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our Comfort And Consolation.
Amen. (1 Thessalonians 4:18)
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Time Of JACOB’s {Israel's} Trouble (TOJT), Ending With
The Second Coming, is found in God's Context:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom
(“ages” past/future) (Genesis-John; Hebrews-Revelation)

God’s “Earthly Kingdom” Purpose From “the foundation of the world”
(Matthew 25:34)

God's Purpose Prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:

Great GRACE Departure!

Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST,
Ending God’s Age Of GRACE, Is Found In:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
{ Current = “But NOW!” } (Romans through Philemon!)

God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose Before “the foundation of the world”
(Ephesians 1:4; 2 Timothy 1:9!)

God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret “since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9!)
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The Second Coming, According to Prophecy:

(1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His
Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords,
Is Coming From Heaven! (Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11!)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On
His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! (Revelation 19:12-15)

(3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!),
His armies * on white horses! (Revelation 19:12-15)

(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * “All Of His holy angels,”
In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations…
(Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)

(5a) Angels “gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom”
to be cast into the furnace of fire! (Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43!)

(5b) Angels “gather the elect”... (Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27!)

(6)...for the “judgment of the Earthly Nations” By The Son of man, The King!
(Matthew 25:31-46!)

(7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous
then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels!
(Matthew 25:34-46!)

to be continued...Part II

It's something how 'studied' people cannot find a single 'pre-trib rapture' verse in the Scripture.
And then they reject the clear Scriptures that states "Immediately after the Tribulation.....He will come" Matthew 24:29-31

And the Apostle Paul said that ONLY at His Coming will Christ bring the Saints from heaven to be Resurrected.
This Resurrection takes place BEFORE the "gathering" of the elect who remain alive on earth unto His Coming.
1 Thess 4:13-18

The LORD says this First Resurrection occurs in Revelation chapters 19-20, after the 5th Seal is completed.

Imagine the Blessing of just believing Christ at His word...............Truth untouched by sinful man.
So simple it's like it was written for children to follow.

 

[Laura798]

The Second Death is indeed the torment of eternal separation from God in the Lake of Fire. That penalty was fully paid by Christ. That is why He said "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

No, again--it is not the second death and such a statement can't be supported by scripture--the second death is the Judgment. He bore the sins of the whole world--all SIN--the scripture says he 'became sin'--God could not look on the SIN, that is why Christ said, "My God My God, why has Thou forsaken me." and not only that because of the suffering and humiliation that he had endured.

 

[ewq1938]

No, again--it is not the second death and such a statement can't be supported by scripture--the second death is the Judgment. He bore the sins of the whole world--all SIN--the scripture says he 'became sin'--God could not look on the SIN, that is why Christ said, "My God My God, why has Thou forsaken me." and not only that because of the suffering and humiliation that he had endured.

If Jesus paid for the second death penalty then no one would go to the lake of fire. Obviously Jesus did not pay for that. He paid for people to be able to accept him and be forgiven because of his shed blood. The ones who go to the lake of fire DO NOT accept Him and are NOT covered by His blood.

 

[DavidTree]

The Second Death is indeed the torment of eternal separation from God in the Lake of Fire. That penalty was fully paid by Christ. That is why He said "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

ONLY on the Cross - not after - once HE said "It is Finished" the PAYMENT for our sins was completed.

 

[Runningman]

The Bible teaches that the second death is for these people:

Revelation 21:8
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

So Christ does not fit the qualification of those who go to the second death. This is very important to know.

 

[Absolutely]

The Bible teaches that the second death is for these people:

Revelation 21:8
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

So Christ does not fit the qualification of those who go to the second death. This is very important to know.

I realize what you are saying.
but he did die for those SPECIFICALY.

He paid the price for every human.

they just refuse to come to him for what he already did.

 

[Absolutely]

No, again--it is not the second death and such a statement can't be supported by scripture--the second death is the Judgment. He bore the sins of the whole world--all SIN--the scripture says he 'became sin'--God could not look on the SIN, that is why Christ said, "My God My God, why has Thou forsaken me." and not only that because of the suffering and humiliation that he had endured.

yes ma'am.
spot on