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Of course you didn't but it looks like the book of Revelation is the only book of the 66 books of the bible you study. Otherwise you would have a much more educated outlook of the Word of God but you have a narrow outlook.
In the book of Ezekiel the Prince of Tyre was also the Prince of Pride. He was
So the King of Babylon"s name was Lucifer. LOL there has never been a King of Babylon who's name was Lucifer.
In the book of Ezekiel the Prince of Tyre was also the Prince of Pride. He was
So the King of Babylon"s name was Lucifer. LOL there has never been a King of Babylon who's name was Lucifer.
I have read the entirety of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation a few times actually. I understand the common misconceptions that you have raised, they are very common. Indeed the way of truth is quite narrow.
Lucifer is just a latin word that means morning star or lightbearer. As one can see such an epithet is not applicable to the wicked dragon named Satan and Devil (the two epithets the dragon is called in the Bible as identified in Revelation 12.)
Ezekiel 28 is indeed about a man, the king of Tyre. The chapters preceding this chapter do much to detail God's prophecies and judgements about Tyre, Sidon, and its inhabitants. As we know from the book of the Kings, which actually if you want to know about me personally is one of my favorite books of the Bible, Tyre was once allied with Israel in the days of King Solomon and they became fabulously wealthy, world renowned merchants. However because of their great wealth the Sidonians became very prideful and as a result they were destroyed by the great heathens of their day; firstly by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (whom is the same king of Babylon from Isaiah 14) whom destroyed the vicinity of Tyre which was upon the mainland then finally and ultimately Tyre in the sea was destroyed very famously by Alexander the king of Javan. This is really just astounding proof that Lord God is truly God for these prophecies were pronounced well before the events, in some cases hundreds of years before the event.
Lucifer is just a latin word that means morning star or lightbearer. As one can see such an epithet is not applicable to the wicked dragon named Satan and Devil (the two epithets the dragon is called in the Bible as identified in Revelation 12.)
Ezekiel 28 is indeed about a man, the king of Tyre. The chapters preceding this chapter do much to detail God's prophecies and judgements about Tyre, Sidon, and its inhabitants. As we know from the book of the Kings, which actually if you want to know about me personally is one of my favorite books of the Bible, Tyre was once allied with Israel in the days of King Solomon and they became fabulously wealthy, world renowned merchants. However because of their great wealth the Sidonians became very prideful and as a result they were destroyed by the great heathens of their day; firstly by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (whom is the same king of Babylon from Isaiah 14) whom destroyed the vicinity of Tyre which was upon the mainland then finally and ultimately Tyre in the sea was destroyed very famously by Alexander the king of Javan. This is really just astounding proof that Lord God is truly God for these prophecies were pronounced well before the events, in some cases hundreds of years before the event.
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Isn't the obvious question --- if Satan was cast down to the earth in a genesis time-frame -- "exactly when" was/is it that Satan stands before God and accuses the brethren day and night?
And, for how long?
Isn't the obvious question --- if Satan was cast down to the earth in a genesis time-frame -- "exactly when" was/is it that Satan stands before God and accuses the brethren day and night?
And, for how long?
Satan was not cast down to the earth in Genesis. Rather Genesis says that Satan is an animal which the Lord God created. Perhaps it is rather that he gained the access to heaven and the authority of the fallen earth which was originally granted to man when man disobeyed Lord God by heeding the woman whom was deceived by the dragon's three lies.
No, Satan was not more knowledgeable, after all he is just an animal. Man and woman had the correct knowledge since God did tell them what would happen, and as God told them so it was true. Curiously after the first lie, the woman actually repeats back correctly what God actually told them. It is merely that the dragon is a cunning liar and with his following two lies deceived her.
Yes you are correct though the Lord God did promise that Jesus will crush Satan. Satan is the most cursed, and his ultimate destiny in the lake of fire is very much fixed. It is no wonder then that the day he finds himself cast out of heaven and there being no place for him there again that he will be very angry and he will know on that day that his time is so very short.
Yes you are correct though the Lord God did promise that Jesus will crush Satan. Satan is the most cursed, and his ultimate destiny in the lake of fire is very much fixed. It is no wonder then that the day he finds himself cast out of heaven and there being no place for him there again that he will be very angry and he will know on that day that his time is so very short.
Yes , hell was originally prepared for the devil and his angels , now people are penciled in too .. I agree that Satan has lost all his former knowledge of God and lost all his capacity to desire even know why God is good .. People in hell won't like it either and like the devils they still won't want Jesus, they will be lost forever
In Revelation 1:1 and Revelation 22:6 it says that the Revelation(it's words) were going to come to pass as if they had not yet happened. In Luke if it is the same as Revelation 12:9 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+12&version=KJV then why is Jesus saying it would come to pass if it had happened already? That is Luke 10:18 would need to be written and fulfilled after Revelation 12 correct?
I did not say he was; rather, I believe massorite said he was.
I was just asking massorite to explain -- if Satan has not had any opportunity since the garden of Eden to stand before God and accuse the brethren day and night -- when did he do that? (because, the Bible definitely indicates that he did - and, also seems to indicate that it was no short stretch of time)
BTW - do you really think the king of Tyre did all of the stuff attributed to Lucifer in that passage? Were the dead in hell stirred up for the king of Tyre? Did the king of Tyre make the earth tremble, and shake kingdoms?
Did the king of Tyre fall from heaven?
I was just asking massorite to explain -- if Satan has not had any opportunity since the garden of Eden to stand before God and accuse the brethren day and night -- when did he do that? (because, the Bible definitely indicates that he did - and, also seems to indicate that it was no short stretch of time)
BTW - do you really think the king of Tyre did all of the stuff attributed to Lucifer in that passage? Were the dead in hell stirred up for the king of Tyre? Did the king of Tyre make the earth tremble, and shake kingdoms?
Did the king of Tyre fall from heaven?
Did Judas become a devil on his own ? Did Jesus see/talk to satan in the desert ? When the sons of God married the daughters of men did they not take on their wives idols they brought in whereby idolatry satan enters in and all become corrupt .. Did Satan enter in with Jobs sons, their houses on their appointed feast days ?
Does Satan not enter in our churches at times even today ?
Does Satan not enter in our churches at times even today ?
And what was the mark of Cain?
I never said that he doesn't have the opportunity to accuse the people of God because he does. Satan has limited access to heaven as we can see in the first two chapters of Job and another event which unfolded in 1 Kings 22:20-22
1Ki 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Other than Satan there are no other lying spirits allowed into heaven.
Why Satan still has lmited access to heaven I can not tell you but from scripture we know he does.
I never said that he doesn't have the opportunity to accuse the people of God because he does. Satan has limited access to heaven as we can see in the first two chapters of Job and another event which unfolded in 1 Kings 22:20-22
1Ki 22:20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. Other than Satan there are no other lying spirits allowed into heaven.
Why Satan still has lmited access to heaven I can not tell you but from scripture we know he does.
I don't have an answer for that question. What we do know is that Satan went to Eve for the express purpose of deceiving her and Adam. Which shows that Satan was already in a fallen state. in the Genesis time frame. There is a reference the the time before the fall of Satan in the book of Job.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Here in Job 38:7 when it says "all" of the sons of God shouted for joy and the morning stars sang for joy it is talking about a time before iniquity was found in Satan and a third of the angels/sons of God fell with him. Satan was one of those morning stars.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Here in Job 38:7 when it says "all" of the sons of God shouted for joy and the morning stars sang for joy it is talking about a time before iniquity was found in Satan and a third of the angels/sons of God fell with him. Satan was one of those morning stars.
I don't have an answer for that question. What we do know is that Satan went to Eve for the express purpose of deceiving her and Adam. Which shows that Satan was already in a fallen state. in the Genesis time frame. There is a reference the the time before the fall of Satan in the book of Job.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Here in Job 38:7 when it says "all" of the sons of God shouted for joy and the morning stars sang for joy it is talking about a time before iniquity was found in Satan and a third of the angels/sons of God fell with him. Satan was one of those morning stars. I don't have any proof so it is simply my opinion but I am thinking it was before the fall and I know that sounds crazy.
Otherwise Satan would be able to be in two places at once. Going to and fro on the earth and standing before the throne at the same time. How was he able to inter into Judas and be standing at the throne at the same time??? Some things Scripture simply isn't clear on and I am ok with that. But there is no question in my mind that Satan was already in a fallen state in the Genesis time frame.
Some teach that the darkness on the earth in Genesis 1:2 is talking about Satan.???
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Here in Job 38:7 when it says "all" of the sons of God shouted for joy and the morning stars sang for joy it is talking about a time before iniquity was found in Satan and a third of the angels/sons of God fell with him. Satan was one of those morning stars. I don't have any proof so it is simply my opinion but I am thinking it was before the fall and I know that sounds crazy.
Otherwise Satan would be able to be in two places at once. Going to and fro on the earth and standing before the throne at the same time. How was he able to inter into Judas and be standing at the throne at the same time??? Some things Scripture simply isn't clear on and I am ok with that. But there is no question in my mind that Satan was already in a fallen state in the Genesis time frame.
Some teach that the darkness on the earth in Genesis 1:2 is talking about Satan.???
Not one seen with the eye. But the fact he was a restless (no sabbath rest of Christ) wanderer. And God marked his own word natural unconverted mankind 666 not must no be killed they must suffering a living hell with no rest there whole life they will not rise to receive a new body on the last day . The wage of suffering is over.
A punishment Cain said was more than he can bear. One that Christ did bear . witnessed by Abel the first recorded martyr.
A punishment Cain said was more than he can bear. One that Christ did bear . witnessed by Abel the first recorded martyr.