The Law of God - who is it meant for and why?

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Who Is The Law Of God Meant For?

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Grandpa

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BenjaminN said:
Would you say to not keep the commandments of God the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, is a sin, if you have been saved by God's grace, through God's gift of faith to you, for your God-prepared good works?

Revelation 14 (KJV)

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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No. I would say to leave your own understanding behind and trust in God.

You must first get a grasp of what is a spiritual Law and what is a carnal commandment.

Any person can turn a commandment of God into a carnal commandment because they are written in the Bible.
 
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BenjaminN

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Grandpa said:
No. I would say to leave your own understanding behind and trust in God.

You must first get a grasp of what is a spiritual Law and what is a carnal commandment.

Any person can turn a commandment of God into a carnal commandment because they are written in the Bible.
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So you are saying not keeping the commandments of God the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, is not a sin?

Revelation 14 (KJV)

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 
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BenjaminN said:
So you are saying not keeping the commandments of God the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, is not a sin?

Revelation 14 (KJV)

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
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No. I am saying your understanding of what Gods Commandments are might be a little lacking.
 
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BenjaminN

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Grandpa said:
No. I am saying your understanding of what Gods Commandments are might be a little lacking.
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If I ask you, to give me one word, to describe the commandments of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, what would that word be, love?


1 Kings 8 (KJV)

39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men; )
 
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BenjaminN said:
If I ask you, to give me one word, to describe the commandments of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, what would that word be, love?


1 Kings 8 (KJV)

39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men; )
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Love would be one.

I would probably go with Spiritual.
 
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BenjaminN

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Grandpa said:
Love would be one.

I would probably go with Spiritual.
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The powers of darkness is included in spiritual hosts, but the powers of darkness opposes love for God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and your fellow man as self.

Ephesians 6 (NKJV)

The Whole Armor of God
10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— 19and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
 
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BenjaminN said:
The powers of darkness is included in spiritual hosts, but the powers of darkness opposes love for God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and your fellow man as self.

Ephesians 6 (NKJV)

The Whole Armor of God
10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— 19and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
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Romans 7:14-15
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
 
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