The Kerygma - God's Requirement for Salvation
- Thread starter GWH
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Eph 2:8,9
FAITH (not just belief) in the SIN OFFERING made by Jesus on Calvary. "Works" are not contributory to salvation. they're simply the RESULT of saving FAITH. IF you're Born again by FAITH plus nothing else, then your life will exhibit good works, which don' t contribute to your salvation, but are the RESULT of it.
FAITH (not just belief) in the SIN OFFERING made by Jesus on Calvary. "Works" are not contributory to salvation. they're simply the RESULT of saving FAITH. IF you're Born again by FAITH plus nothing else, then your life will exhibit good works, which don' t contribute to your salvation, but are the RESULT of it.
It's not sleight of anything. I shared with you what is necessary and told you why. Because God has chosen to predominantly save through His word doesn't make His word a requirement for salvation. He merely employs His word as a means to affect salvation. The same is true of faith.
So I asked a couple of questions. As I have answered all your questions, will you answer mine?
So I asked a couple of questions. As I have answered all your questions, will you answer mine?
So, you don't believe that "people" in HB 2:17 includes the Gentiles as stated in EPH 2:11-20?
And you think Paul lied by saying in 1TM 2:3-6, "God our Savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people."
Wow!
And you think Paul lied by saying in 1TM 2:3-6, "God our Savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people."
Wow!
-
1
- Show all
And YOU should be careful that you do not disagree with the clear teaching of Scripture in 1TM 2:3-6, "God our Savior wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people."
Paul did NOT say Christ died for only some people, but rather for ALL people. He is the mediator between God and mankind, NOT only some of humanity.
IOW, Paul's Scripture trumps Calvin's misinterpretation of it, following the wrong lead of Augustine of Hippo.
Paul did NOT say Christ died for only some people, but rather for ALL people. He is the mediator between God and mankind, NOT only some of humanity.
IOW, Paul's Scripture trumps Calvin's misinterpretation of it, following the wrong lead of Augustine of Hippo.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
There you go again...jumping to conclusions. I'm neither a Calvinist or a follower of Augustine. And there's nothing in the scriptures you shared that I disagree with. Your understanding of them, however, I do find fault with.
Before addressing that I have a question for you: what did Jesus accomplish while on earth that qualified Him as Savior and God's servant mentioned in the book of Isaiah?
Before addressing that I have a question for you: what did Jesus accomplish while on earth that qualified Him as Savior and God's servant mentioned in the book of Isaiah?
-
1
- Show all
Brother you continually answer any simple point that you don’t want to just say “ yes “ to lol with a circle back to unrelated topic
babies aren’t sinful even under the law until they were of age to be accountable for sin. They don’t need salvation until they have sinned , we’re saved from sin which has a sentance of death because we have sinned babies have no sin they need remitted or guilt they need to confess again especially unborn babies
But Cameron dear brother hownis your answer to the question
“Do we have to believe the gospel to be saved ?”
A question about unborn babies and “ if “ God can do that ? God can do anything he wants to brother . He’s told us how to be saved in the everlasting Gospel and said whoever believes shall be saved
Whoever doesn’t believe shall be damned
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12
“But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 10:8-10 KJV
unborn humans can’t do that they can’t be aware of sin and commit sin either it doesn’t make sense to ask aboit thier salvation they’re innocent.
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
We find salvation in Christ who was promised in the ot and arrived in the new im not sure an unborn baby is a fair comparison to a grown and accountable man or woman
babies aren’t sinful even under the law until they were of age to be accountable for sin. They don’t need salvation until they have sinned , we’re saved from sin which has a sentance of death because we have sinned babies have no sin they need remitted or guilt they need to confess again especially unborn babies
But Cameron dear brother hownis your answer to the question
“Do we have to believe the gospel to be saved ?”
A question about unborn babies and “ if “ God can do that ? God can do anything he wants to brother . He’s told us how to be saved in the everlasting Gospel and said whoever believes shall be saved
Whoever doesn’t believe shall be damned
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12
“But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 10:8-10 KJV
unborn humans can’t do that they can’t be aware of sin and commit sin either it doesn’t make sense to ask aboit thier salvation they’re innocent.
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
We find salvation in Christ who was promised in the ot and arrived in the new im not sure an unborn baby is a fair comparison to a grown and accountable man or woman
-
2
- Show all