The Holy Spirit is Jesus.

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Nehemiah6 said:
How can I deny that Jesus is the Christ when I have shown you from Scripture that He is the Son? The Son is the Christ, not the Holy Spirit.

So if you are promoting the idea that the Holy Spirit is Christ, that is FALSE DOCTRINE. You are making God a liar according to the Scriptures shown below.

1 JOHN 5
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him...
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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Your statement, "The Son is the Christ, not the Holy Spirit. " proves they are different persons and that the Son is not the HS.
 
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GodIsSpiritGodIsHoly said:
Yes, the things of God can only be understood by His Spirit, I agree, and this is what God in His word says. :)



1. There is only one God.
Do you agree?

2. God is Holy.
Do you agree?

3. God is a Spirit.
Do you agree?

4. God is a Father.
Do you agree?

5. God is Jesus.
Do you agree?

6. God takes on flesh.
Do you agree?

7. God is the Christ.
Do you agree?

8. Jesus is the Christ.
Do you agree?

The Father, and the Son.
Jesus Christ.


If you deny that Jesus is the Holy Spirit, you do not have Him in you.
How can Jesus Christ be in you, if He is not the Holy Spirit?
How can Jesus speak from heaven, if He is not the Holy Spirit, - when He speaks with Paul?

He is the Holy Spirit, and He is the Father. Revealed as man, the Christ.
See also in the verses you mention, - "He that hath the Son, hath life."

Why? Because the Son is the Holy Spirit (for God is Holy, and He is a Spirit.)
The lifegiving Spirit.
That's also the only reason one can have Him.
Because He indwells you.

2 Corinthians 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
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Why bother asking the same copy and paste questions that have already been answered?
 
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You (along with the title of this thread "The Holy Spirit is Jesus") are basically teaching here the destructive heresy of Modalistic Monarchianism which was condemned by the early Church as such!
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If the HS is Jesus in the OP, then How can the HS not be the Christ? His posts contradict there.
 
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Deade said:
Hahaha... He quotes the very author of the trinity doctrine. I would have you know there are many different churches that totally reject the Nicene Creed, most have spun off the Adventist Movement of 1844 and formed churches, other than the SDA. They keep the commandments of God and Christ and are saved by grace. :)(y):cool:
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I seem to remember that movement was an offshoot of the Semi Arian or Arian Chistian Connextion Movement.
In fact, Ellen White's husband was an Arain from that group. Uriah Smith was an Arian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Connection
 
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What do they need to know and believe to have the TRUE GOSPEL?
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To have the true gospel we are to confess to Jesus our sins and repent of them, to agree to die to the sins of the world and to live to please Jesus. We are to believe that his blood on the cross washes away our sins and that we will receive his Spirit to live in us and us in him in heaven.
Jesus saves us when he accepts us. Jesus says that he chooses those who get his teachings and obeys them.
Searching for God is to search the New Testament for Jesus' teachings, and finding God is by obeying Jesus' teachings, calling on him to help.
 
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What do they need to know and believe to have the TRUE GOSPEL?
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Talking about the true Gospel, we read in 2 Cor 4:4 "the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

Jesus is God on earth, the Father is God in heaven. God is Spirit, the Spirit dwelt in Jesus, Jesus is the image of the invisible God (Col 1:15) the Father is Spirit. Jesus is the Spirit made flesh, Jesus is the Word made flesh (John 1:14) The Word was God (John 1:1. God is One. Try separating God from God, from God, because I cannot.
 
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miknik5 said:
What do they need to know and believe to have the TRUE GOSPEL?
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The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)

To “believe” the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. The gospel is hid to those who don’t believe. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)

The gospel is not a code of laws to be obeyed, a check list of works to accomplish or a quest to obtain sinless perfection as a prerequisite for salvation.
 
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The gospel is the “good news” of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)

To “believe” the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. The gospel is hid to those who don’t believe. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)

The gospel is not a code of laws to be obeyed, a check list of works to accomplish or a quest to obtain sinless perfection as a prerequisite for salvation.
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You are wrong and will hinder her from what she desires.
 
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miknik5 said:
What do they need to know and believe to have the TRUE GOSPEL?
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Christ and Christ crucified, and risen again for the sins of mankind.

Anyone who teaches anythign else is not leading people to the gospel .
 
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People still think the HS is Jesus? How can this be?

1. The HS entered Jesus
2. The HS Spoke to Jesus
3. The HS is the one who did all the miracles. Through Jesus
4. The HS spoke through Jesus
5. Jesus said he would send the HS after he left.

Just a few issues, if they are one and the same person, the above truths could not be true.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
People still think the HS is Jesus? How can this be?

1. The HS entered Jesus
2. The HS Spoke to Jesus
3. The HS is the one who did all the miracles. Through Jesus
4. The HS spoke through Jesus
5. Jesus said he would send the HS after he left.

Just a few issues, if they are one and the same person, the above truths could not be true.
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Amen! Then you have certain cults like the Worldwide church of God (Armstrongism) which teaches that the Holy Spirit is not a person in the Godhead, but instead is God's power, which does God's will. A disembodied force, like electricity or radio waves.
 
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Amen! Then you have certain cults like the Worldwide church of God (Armstrongism) which teaches that the Holy Spirit is not a person in the Godhead, but instead is God's power, which does God's will. A disembodied force, like electricity or radio waves.
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Then why does jesus personalize him as a being, not some magical power from god
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Then why does jesus personalize him as a being, not some magical power from god
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Because the Holy Spirit is the third person in the Godhead. (y)

The Holy Spirit was personally involved in creation (Genesis 1:2, 26), comforts, convicts, teaches, guides you into all truth (John 14:26; 16:8; 16:13; 1 John 2:27) distributes spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:4) and even gives commands (Acts 8:29). The Holy Spirit can be quenched (1 Thessalonians 5:19) grieved (Ephesians 4:30) and even blasphemed (Mark 3:29) and the Holy Spirit also seals believers in Christ until the redemption of the purchased possession. (Ephesians 1:13-14) All of these works require the involvement of a person rather than a mere force, like electricity or radio waves.

The Holy Spirit’s attributes also point to His personhood. The Holy Spirit has life (Romans 8:2) has a will (1 Corinthians 12:11) is omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11) and is eternal (Hebrews 9:14). A mere force like electricity or radio waves could not possess all of these attributes, but the Holy Spirit certainly does.
 
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