The doctrine of election and reprobation
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I'm saying I believed Jesus lived, died and was resurrected before I was converted. But I lived a life of sin without Christ in my life. I lived as if He didn't exist, I was doing as I pleased. I had the attitude that I was OK compared to most people so I thought God would find that I had more good than bad and that that would eventually get me to heaven. I believe God was working in my life the whole time and He bought me to repentance and complete surrender. Than I was ready to follow Jesus.
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sorry. the majority of Christians are not here...so that would not be possible to answer
seems you actually might like to present why you are right as opposed to those who disagree with Calvinism
bit of a sneaky entry don't you think? I wish people would just say what they want to get at it
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not much in the way of actual intelligent exchange here
just a bunch of my opinion is better than yours
Calvinism has been well argued in this forum, as well as opposing views
I am not a Calvinist nor am I Arminian; but I do get weary of Calvinists acting superior or seeming to believe those who do not hold to their view are somehow stupid or vapid
just a bunch of my opinion is better than yours
Calvinism has been well argued in this forum, as well as opposing views
I am not a Calvinist nor am I Arminian; but I do get weary of Calvinists acting superior or seeming to believe those who do not hold to their view are somehow stupid or vapid
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Ahhh! But, it is! But, for whatever reason? Either in Calvin's interpretation of predestination, or, traditions of men, watering down predestination, or, the combination, of (how can I say) "Sheeples" not wanting to accept (a) predestination aspect of How/What our Heavenly Father does, in His going about His business, or, in (a) Sheeples mindset of "Because predestination is not good enough, us?" It's not good enough for anybody!" Never ever realizing that they are the one's that our Father has Given His Only Begotten! And, that is well enough! Seems, there are 2 kinds of "election!" The elect of Christ, and, the elect, of the Father! Might even call the elect of the Father, (the) Very Elect! Tis the very elect, being of "The Remnant" That are/were "predestined" form the foundations of the earth (heaven too). Our Heavenly Father in His Eternal wisdom, seen fit, and according to His Good Pleasure, in "sprinkling" (if you will), during this earth age "His" remnant, from every generation, since Adam!
So? Is this to say that those given unto the Son, cannot be "rewarded" with very elect status? GOD Forbid! This should be our "life's mission" in these flesh bodies, having invested our "talents", to be given even more!
Even now, their are "predestined remnant" walking around this earth (and heaven too). All who are, are even aware of God's "protective bubble", if you will, and even seen, in most cases, by those who have been given in Christ's Hands, as enemies!
So Yes! "Predestination" is supported, by scripture! But, alas, is Spiritually Discerned! But, as yet? Unrecognized by Sheeple!