The deception to come

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JTB

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Since the Plandemic/Scamdemic was also designed to illegally interfere with the gatherings of Christians for worship and fellowship, Christians had every right and reason to oppose such interference and tyranny. There was absolutely NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for lockdowns, distancing, masking, etc., and all the onerous restrictions placed on the public. But Christian churches and pastors were specifically targeted and this is where we see that this was not a mere "distraction" as you claim. It was a Satanic attack on the Gospel and on Christians.
I refer you back to what God said the deception was all about. Hint - it isn't about a scamdemic
 

Dino246

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2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 (from Bible Gateway)

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


Who are the "them" in verse 11? "Those who refused to love the truth and so be saved."

That doesn't include Christians.
 

JTB

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2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 (from Bible Gateway)

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


Who are the "them" in verse 11? "Those who refused to love the truth and so be saved."

That doesn't include Christians.
1 Tim 4 says "some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:4 Jesus says to His disciples " watch out that no one deceives you" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:10 says "at that time many will turn away from the faith" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:24 says "false prophets will ... to deceive the elect" ... those are Christians

Mark 13: 5-6 says ... well, you get the point

Hopefully
 

Dino246

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1 Tim 4 says "some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:4 Jesus says to His disciples " watch out that no one deceives you" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:10 says "at that time many will turn away from the faith" ... those are Christians

Matthew 24:24 says "false prophets will ... to deceive the elect" ... those are Christians

Mark 13: 5-6 says ... well, you get the point

Hopefully
Yes... it is possible that Christians will be deceived; I'm not arguing that. I am reminding us that God will not send Christians a delusion.
 

JTB

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Yes... it is possible that Christians will be deceived; I'm not arguing that. I am reminding us that God will not send Christians a delusion.
True. Christians will be deceived by lying spirits, not God. But these spirits (and the false prophets they inhabit) will claim to come in God's Name. So Christians will be deceived by what they believe to be Godly prophets.
 

JaumeJ

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#26
He never said the virus wasn't real .Just that it is being exploited and used as a diversion I believe he was right.
People who are paying attentions see and understand well that many subjects are clasped onto to divert the attention of all.
I see how people have been maniputlated to some degree by covid19, however it is those news items, how they are reported, that are far more frightening, such as supprting resons to kill.
 

jb

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The vax and mask and the covid are a deception but not the deception.

this vaccine is a precursor to the mark and this vaccine alters dna if it is a precursor to the mark and does that how much more will the actual mark alter dna?
Again, complete and utter nonsense!
 

Lanolin

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I heard of this preacher called Jim Jones brainwashed a whole bunch of people who were afraid of a nuclear attack in america so they all holed up in a place called Jonestown in Guyana and they all drank kool-aid laced with poison and died... (and get this...they KNEW it was poison, they werent tricked)

?!

He thought he was God or something. Crazy. This happened in the 70s. Apparently it was the most civilian deaths in one day until 9/11