THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb
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Listen.....after dealing with you numerous times over the last few years I can say that nothing you say will change my mind. You have consistently proven to be dishonest with the text and the inspired words that are utilized.
Deal with this in light of your 3 comings....and if you cannot be honest....do not even reply because I will not respond to your drivel.
Coming <---Parousia-->BODY PRESENCE
WAS <--past tense
IS <---PRESENT TENSE
IS to COME <---FUTURE TENSE and ONE and ONLY ONE coming <---ALL things must JIVE with ONE BODY PRESENCE...and THEY DO!
We're done until you can get honest!
Deal with this in light of your 3 comings....and if you cannot be honest....do not even reply because I will not respond to your drivel.
Coming <---Parousia-->BODY PRESENCE
WAS <--past tense
IS <---PRESENT TENSE
IS to COME <---FUTURE TENSE and ONE and ONLY ONE coming <---ALL things must JIVE with ONE BODY PRESENCE...and THEY DO!
We're done until you can get honest!
Take it up with GOD...THE LITTLE HORN/BEAST/SON of PERDITION A.K.A ANTI-CHRIST (so called)......
MAKES war against the SAINTS
OVERCOMES the SAINTS
WEARS out the SAINTS of the MOST HIGH
FOR
1260 days or 3.5 years or 42 MONTHS
KEEP believing we won't be here and see who pays the price for a lack of due diligence!
MAKES war against the SAINTS
OVERCOMES the SAINTS
WEARS out the SAINTS of the MOST HIGH
FOR
1260 days or 3.5 years or 42 MONTHS
KEEP believing we won't be here and see who pays the price for a lack of due diligence!
I meant that you've got it figured out - it's a great mystery and no one will ever be able to understand.
BTW I didn't force anything. When a man and woman get married, their flesh DOES NOT become one, that only happens when they conceive. 23 chromosomes from the man and 23 chromosomes from the woman produce the NEW MAN.
That analogy is to be applied to Christ and the church. When Christ puts his DNA (the word of God, the incorruptible SEED) in us, the result is the NEW MAN.
Why is that hard to understand?
BTW I didn't force anything. When a man and woman get married, their flesh DOES NOT become one, that only happens when they conceive. 23 chromosomes from the man and 23 chromosomes from the woman produce the NEW MAN.
That analogy is to be applied to Christ and the church. When Christ puts his DNA (the word of God, the incorruptible SEED) in us, the result is the NEW MAN.
Why is that hard to understand?
These two words are two very distinct things (and it is not too "difficult" to distinguish them).
--"resurrection" is "to stand again, on the earth"
--"rapture" is "a catching away/up [in the air]"
[note: this latter one listed ^, pertains SOLELY to "the Church which is His body," not to all other saints of all OTHER time periods: not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
--"resurrection" is "to stand again, on the earth"
--"rapture" is "a catching away/up [in the air]"
[note: this latter one listed ^, pertains SOLELY to "the Church which is His body," not to all other saints of all OTHER time periods: not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
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I keep mentioning this... that they are NOT the same.
However, what you are stepping over, is the fact that, "in this present age [singular]," BOTH Jew and Gentile alike who become saved, is who 2Cor11:2 applies to, where it says, "For I [Paul] am jealous over you [corporate, plural 'you'] with godly jealousy: for I have betrothed you [corporate, plural 'you'] to One Husband, that I may present A CHASTE VIRGIN [SINGULAR] to Christ."
If Paul were only addressing the Jewish believers here, you might have a case. But he is NOT.
"In this present age [singular]," every believer (Jew and Gentile alike!) becomes a member of that ONE BODY (whom I believe is also "the Bride/Wife [SINGULAR]); but after our Rapture, the Jews and Gentiles remain distinct (during the trib years) where the Jews [having come to faith WITHIN the trib] will do the INVITING (to their promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom [aka "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" ^ ] and it is the Gentiles who must accept [or reject] THAT INVITATION (TO the EARTHLY MK<---*WE* are NOT the ones DOING *THAT* task ["in this present age [singular]"]… nor IS it US [BEING "invited" to that/"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER"])
However, what you are stepping over, is the fact that, "in this present age [singular]," BOTH Jew and Gentile alike who become saved, is who 2Cor11:2 applies to, where it says, "For I [Paul] am jealous over you [corporate, plural 'you'] with godly jealousy: for I have betrothed you [corporate, plural 'you'] to One Husband, that I may present A CHASTE VIRGIN [SINGULAR] to Christ."
If Paul were only addressing the Jewish believers here, you might have a case. But he is NOT.
"In this present age [singular]," every believer (Jew and Gentile alike!) becomes a member of that ONE BODY (whom I believe is also "the Bride/Wife [SINGULAR]); but after our Rapture, the Jews and Gentiles remain distinct (during the trib years) where the Jews [having come to faith WITHIN the trib] will do the INVITING (to their promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom [aka "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" ^ ] and it is the Gentiles who must accept [or reject] THAT INVITATION (TO the EARTHLY MK<---*WE* are NOT the ones DOING *THAT* task ["in this present age [singular]"]… nor IS it US [BEING "invited" to that/"the wedding FEAST/SUPPER"])
I think think it does. The unwise virgins did not have time to go buy oil for their lamps, before the DOOR was Shut unto them. That OIL symbolizes the Holy Spirit coming into our Human Spirit, birthing it into Eternal Life; therefore they DID NOT HAVE TIME TO MAKE A DECISION to choose CHRIST AS THERE LORD. Like I said IMO, the Parable of the 10 Virgins is all about the RAPTURE. I know you do not believe the Second Coming is the Rapture. HOWEVER by contrast, the SECOND COMING happens so slow, the world's armies have time to Gather at the Valley of Megiddo, prepared to make war against the KING OF Kings. That previous line was for the benefit of those who think the Rapture and the Second Coming are the same event.
I just figured out how you misunderstand me, some times. When I write a post, I seldom mean it for just one person, I WRITE A POST FOR EVERY BODY on the board, and THOSE WHO NEVER POST, BUT READ OUR POSTS. I will bare that in mind and show with as sentence like I just put there: I know you do not believe the Second Coming is the Rapture. So sometimes I am not talking to you personally, because I realize there will others who read this post, who could have a other view, that spawn from errors in scripture.
Will that work for you ?
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Uh,that says nothing about them NOT dying
We can see they do in fact die.
I tell you a fact,that millions/billions die in the gt.
You get all upset and seem to try to refute it.
What is going on.
It's simple...you are wrong.
Just agree with the bible.
It either is or is not there.
Since we can all see they die,just admit it.
There is no honest/dishonest straw man.
That is just part of your deflection.
And btw,anger does nothing for the points you are deflecting.
You are still wrong
We can see they do in fact die.
I tell you a fact,that millions/billions die in the gt.
You get all upset and seem to try to refute it.
What is going on.
It's simple...you are wrong.
Just agree with the bible.
It either is or is not there.
Since we can all see they die,just admit it.
There is no honest/dishonest straw man.
That is just part of your deflection.
And btw,anger does nothing for the points you are deflecting.
You are still wrong
Jesus always used the word ASSEMBY, not Church.
Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;
So did the Apostles:
Acts 14:23 (YLT)
23 and having appointed to them by vote elders in every assembly, having prayed with fastings, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed.
1 Corinthians 1:2 (YLT)
2 to the assembly of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all those calling upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in every place--both theirs and ours:
2 Thessalonians 1:1 (YLT)
1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, to the assembly of Thessalonians in God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ:
James 5:14 (YLT)
14 is any infirm among you? let him call for the elders of the assembly, and let them pray over him, having anointed him with oil, in the name of the Lord,
3 John 1:6 (YLT)
6 who did testify of thy love before an assembly, whom thou wilt do well, having sent forward worthily of God,
Revelation 2:1 (YLT)
1 `To the messenger of the Ephesian assembly write: These things saith he who is holding the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven lamp-stands--the golden:
That word was CHANGED to Church long before the English Bible came into existance.
QUOTE:
Greek NASB Number: 1577:
Greek Word: ἐκκλησία
Transliterated Word: ekklêsia
Root: from 1537 and 2564;
Definition: an assembly
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a (religious) congregation:--
List of English Words and Number of Times Used
assembly (3),
church (74),
churches (35),
congregation (2).
New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.
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Note 74 and 35 times it was changed to Church or Churches, when originally it was ASSEMBLY.