The Age of the Universe

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Lucy-Pevensie

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Doesn't matter what others say. Take everyone's with a grain of salt. But always read the scriptures and study it for ourselves. Everything I said is quite evident.
The quote I was referring to wasn't yours and was an incoherent fragment of babble.
 

Roughsoul1991

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ever heard of The Cesium-133 atom use in atomic clocks, thinking of the beginning of time I think these little guys was around in the beginning. Newer atomic clocks that measure optical frequencies of light are even more precise, there’s a chemical atom to that use recently made.
Even more precise? Wow.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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What are the problems it poses? Creation is evident of God. They shouldn't contradict each other. But agree there is bad science but also good science. It is all on how each person views the evidence.
How many more millions of years will this unfinished 7th day last?
 
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Man made from dirt, to know the material of dirt is to know the human body generations
 

Roughsoul1991

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It would appear. When the glory had departed as it seems on the forth day it started the today clock .When his glory again is the light there will be no night. Jesus is the bright as the source of light and morning star the one that reflects the Love of God..

I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.Revelation 21.
Why would the glory depart at that time? I believe when God said let there be light. That was God choosing to enter creation and thus becoming a theistic God. He was the light. Then when God created the sun this is the light we see now. God will once again be the light without the sun.
 

OneOfHis

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Age of the universe? I'd say less than ten thousand years would be what scripture says.


Though this isn't something that troubles me if someone disagrees, like if someone doesn't believe the core gospel. Not really a big enough deal to me to argue over creation when none of us where there, and though I think it is easily proven with scripture... Some people see the same message and take away a different meaning.


I have seen people who truly believe the earth is flat. I'd much rather talk to them about the saving gospel than geography the same way I'd rather talk to anyone using terms like "millions" or "billions" of years about the Creator and His gospel than His creation.
 
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Unfortunately, the need for some Christians to think that the Bible is a science textbook, clouds not only our rational thought, but it causes unbelievers to see us as ignorant. You can’t be intellectually honest and think that nothing existed on this planet, or the universe, before the biblical timeline. Wake up! We are not the center of the Universe. If someone thinks that the stars were created so humans can figure out times and for navigation, then what about the millions of galaxies that are only visible with a telescope? The creation story gave an account of the stages of Creation. Yes, it may have been made by Jehovah, but no, it surely doesn’t stand up to critical thinking, as presented. Moses was given a nation of farmers and he gave them a story that showed that the God who freed them from slavery was indeed their owner because He created them. He has intellectual property rights. This world is His, and everything on it belongs to Him, including us. The monuments built with technology beyond even today’s capabilities, fossils found and geological anomalies, all attest to a planet that has been inhabited and desolated many times. The current era might be less than ten thousand years. The devastation that awaits us described in Revelation 6 marks the next catastrophic event, and after that the final one that causes the total destruction of earth.

Granted there are several scientists who peddle their findings as more legitimate then they are. That’s how they make money to support their hobby. Many denominations have also twisted biblical content to support their claims. Honestly, what would be the point of Yahweh putting dinosaur fossils in the ground or any of the other ridiculous things to make the earth seem older? It’s not heresy to be logical and Christian. To dismiss every theory purely based on the fact that you can’t find it written in scripture is stifling to our testimony. God uses scientific principles to create and maintain. These can be observed and testify to intelligent design. I think more intelligent people would come to know the Lord if they weren’t pushed out the door by Christians who are afraid to learn that all things in the Bible are for spiritual edification, some by concrete explanation and some by allegorical accounts. They all teach that God is supreme, whether you are a farmer or a scientist.
 

Roughsoul1991

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How many more millions of years will this unfinished 7th day last?
There are a few problems. The 7th day was when God rested from creating. Notice we no longer have new species just popping up everywhere like it shows in the fossil records. Plus humans haven't been around around for millions of years. So it isn't unfinished within the idea of creation because God rested. What was unfinished was the period of prophecies and time for Christ to fulfill the prophecies. Everything now has been fulfilled and scripture tells us why Christ is so long in his return. Because God is patiently waiting for the full number of saved predetermined within God's foreknowledge.

The disciples didn't fully grasp time either at first. They thought either Christ was going to immediately set up a Earthly Kingdom or would return very quickly. Well 2000+ years later God is very patient with the fleshly world.
 

Roughsoul1991

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In billions days like a million years at minute, Galactic years are a reality, one single solar system rotation around the wheel of the galaxy is about 240 million years on earth in prospective to earths single rotation around the sun
Yah it blows my mind the put in perspective a light year in distance to miles. And then put that in perspective how wide our galaxy is. And then put that in perspective that there are 1000s of galaxies.
 

Roughsoul1991

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How many more millions of years will this unfinished 7th day last?
We do not know the day or hour as scripture says but according to prophecy Christ is returning soon. And then will come the 1000 year reign. Eventually time will be done and to promise rest of Hebrew 4 will no longer be available.
 
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Yah it blows my mind the put in perspective a light year in distance to miles. And then put that in perspective how wide our galaxy is. And then put that in perspective that there are 1000s of galaxies.
Yes it is huge,, andromeda Galaxy can be seen with the eye out beyond city lights if you know where to look, but it is about the same size as the Milky Way in the local group of three I like the latest photos of it from humble that shows a perspective of the size the Milky Way and no doubt the solar system is way smaller than a spec of dust


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Man please ha. That's easy in my opinion. To be that meticulous and precise over a timescale that I cannot even comprehend is amazing. Plus a God that creates from nothing. The Big Bang theory is the best evidence outside of scripture for God. We can view the aftermath of light and radiation with a few seconds after creation. We know space, time, and matter came into existence at the same time. Automatically making the cause a spaceless, timeless, and immaterial being. We see the cooling affect within the radiation waves. We see the universe expanding which is also scripture. All of this also provides us with the knowledge that the universe had a beginning but is also dying. Everything has a lifespan. This is evident and this provides us with a image to show just how powerful Gof is. God created from nothing everything we see and even the farthest reaches of the universe we cannot see. The greatest miracle of all we have evidence for. And if God can create the universe from nothing then Jesus being resurrected is easy compared to that.

My God is the most powerful but also such a loving and caring God to meticulously and perfectly prepared for my life and all of mankind. We could of easily been like Venus or Mars.
Big Bang theory?

That trumps what God said to Moses about resting on day 7. As he rested on day 7
why do you continue to ignore what Moses said? And my comments on what he said?
again according to your view. God told Moses to work for 6 days then rest the rest of eternity
please respond to this. Or is that to hard?
 
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Big Bang theory?

That trumps what God said to Moses about resting on day 7. As he rested on day 7
why do you continue to ignore what Moses said? And my comments on what he said?
again according to your view. God told Moses to work for 6 days then rest the rest of eternity
please respond to this. Or is that to hard?
you don’t think it was quite the Big Bang the heavens and earth was created?

what man can work a galactic day
 
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eternally-gratefull

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you don’t think it was quite the Big Bang the heavens and earth was created?

what man can work a galactic day

I thought God created the heavens and the earth.

Are you limiting Gods power?
 
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I thought God created the heavens and the earth.

Are you limiting Gods power?
No doubt there was no sun around on the first day and the second those where galactic days, the earth was formless void nothing but elements no other planets nothing still brewing in a nebulae
 

Roughsoul1991

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Big Bang theory?

That trumps what God said to Moses about resting on day 7. As he rested on day 7
why do you continue to ignore what Moses said? And my comments on what he said?
again according to your view. God told Moses to work for 6 days then rest the rest of eternity
please respond to this. Or is that to hard?
How does it trump what God said. God spoke and bam there was the universe.

As related to Moses about resting, I do not see what you are trying to prove? Sabbath rest is part of Gods command also.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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No doubt there was no sun around on the first day and the second those where galactic days, the earth was formless void nothing but elements no other planets nothing still brewing in a nebulae
prove it..baased on scripture. not what some scientist says he thinks happened.