The 10 Commandments
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6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person,
just as I have been saying,
but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is [c]contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.
i guess since you all want to put yourself under law this must be talking about you? Which one are you? I suggest next time you pull a verse out you should study the context, so it does not come back to bit ya!
that first part of the passage, where it says they desire to be teachers of the law understanding niether what they teach or affirm, that speaks of you lawyers who think the law can help you
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person,
just as I have been saying,
but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is [c]contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.
i guess since you all want to put yourself under law this must be talking about you? Which one are you? I suggest next time you pull a verse out you should study the context, so it does not come back to bit ya!
that first part of the passage, where it says they desire to be teachers of the law understanding niether what they teach or affirm, that speaks of you lawyers who think the law can help you
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But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.
The New King James Version. (1982). (1 Ti 1:8–11). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
So are you sinless?
The New King James Version. (1982). (1 Ti 1:8–11). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
So are you sinless?
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Eternally;
I know what you mean when you say the law is against us by maybe meaning it brings death. The Law it self is Holy for
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ro 7:11–12). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
The Laws of God are not against us by they are for us. made for us to compare are self to 1 john says like a mirror. To give us eyes to see sin for what it is.
Bible teaches it brings us to Christ! When we find Christ we hate sin not the Law. Because the Law brings us to him. Therefore it is Holy just and Good!
God bless. When I learned that the Law is just a Mirror and not there to condemn me I was made free to follow freely with Grace knowing that all things work together for good for those who Love God.
16 Now if I do [habitually] what is contrary to my desire, [that means that] I acknowledge and agree that the Law is good (morally excellent) and that I take sides with it.
The Amplified Bible. (1987). (Ro 7:16). La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
I know what you mean when you say the law is against us by maybe meaning it brings death. The Law it self is Holy for
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ro 7:11–12). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
The Laws of God are not against us by they are for us. made for us to compare are self to 1 john says like a mirror. To give us eyes to see sin for what it is.
Bible teaches it brings us to Christ! When we find Christ we hate sin not the Law. Because the Law brings us to him. Therefore it is Holy just and Good!
God bless. When I learned that the Law is just a Mirror and not there to condemn me I was made free to follow freely with Grace knowing that all things work together for good for those who Love God.16 Now if I do [habitually] what is contrary to my desire, [that means that] I acknowledge and agree that the Law is good (morally excellent) and that I take sides with it.
The Amplified Bible. (1987). (Ro 7:16). La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully,
if we use it correctly, it is good.
"life is not found in outward adherence to sacrificial, dietary, or social ordinances and statutes. Thus Yahweh demands of Israel, "Who asked you for this multitude of sacrifices, new moon, and Sabbath ceremonies" ( Isa 1:11-15 ). The answer, of course, is Yahweh himself. But God cannot tolerate iniquity and religious ritual. God is not fooled when the wicked recite the statutes of the covenant ( Psalm 50:16 ).""
God does not want ritual, but a sincere following of the laws.
"Yet the ordinances and statutes are still words of life. Isaiah and James give the same solution to the faithless observance of outward forms: cease to do evil, learn to do good, seek justice, correct oppression, defend the fatherless, plead for the widow ( Isa 1:16-17 ; James 1:27 ). The ordinances and statutes reveal God's will and his understanding of what it means to do good, seek justice, and correct oppression."
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8 But we know that the law is good
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Eternally;
I know what you mean when you say the law is against us by maybe meaning it brings death. The Law it self is Holy for
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ro 7:11–12). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
The Laws of God are not against us by they are for us. made for us to compare are self to 1 john says like a mirror. To give us eyes to see sin for what it is.
Bible teaches it brings us to Christ! When we find Christ we hate sin not the Law. Because the Law brings us to him. Therefore it is Holy just and Good! God bless. When I learned that the Law is just a Mirror and not there to condemn me I was made free to follow freely with Grace knowing that all things work together for good for those who Love God.
16 Now if I do [habitually] what is contrary to my desire, [that means that] I acknowledge and agree that the Law is good (morally excellent) and that I take sides with it.
The Amplified Bible. (1987). (Ro 7:16). La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
I know what you mean when you say the law is against us by maybe meaning it brings death. The Law it self is Holy for
12 Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ro 7:11–12). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
The Laws of God are not against us by they are for us. made for us to compare are self to 1 john says like a mirror. To give us eyes to see sin for what it is.
Bible teaches it brings us to Christ! When we find Christ we hate sin not the Law. Because the Law brings us to him. Therefore it is Holy just and Good!
God bless. When I learned that the Law is just a Mirror and not there to condemn me I was made free to follow freely with Grace knowing that all things work together for good for those who Love God.16 Now if I do [habitually] what is contrary to my desire, [that means that] I acknowledge and agree that the Law is good (morally excellent) and that I take sides with it.
The Amplified Bible. (1987). (Ro 7:16). La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
you do not get it at all
the purpose of the law was to bring me to Christ, as a schoolmaster,
it did that job,
it fulfilled its purpose in my life
now I move on to better things, like growing in love, in faith, learning to love as god loved me.
the law can not help me, it can only keep me tied down, condemned
if you look to the law and think you obey it, something is seriously wrong
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No one is sinless
yet in scripture the sinners are the unbelievers, those who have been saved by faith are no longer considered sinners,
the law is not for them, they are considered the righteous,
that’s why it said
1. the law is not for the righteous (the saved)
2. or as paul said, those led by the schoolmaster are no longer bound by the schoolmaster, its has fulfilled its purpose.
yet in scripture the sinners are the unbelievers, those who have been saved by faith are no longer considered sinners,
the law is not for them, they are considered the righteous,
that’s why it said
1. the law is not for the righteous (the saved)
2. or as paul said, those led by the schoolmaster are no longer bound by the schoolmaster, its has fulfilled its purpose.
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"sincere Faith"
My faith comes from the Bible.
Its tells me only the God head made this world. And it tells me how he did it.
So What better way to say keep the "Sabbath" per say. by Remembering that yes the bible Tells me he made all things in 7 days I believe that he is indeed the Creator God not just a "moral God" With the, do this and do that type stuff. When in reality he is Calling all men not to ritual but to "rest". "Rest". God wants us to rest in Jesus yes! but also our minds and bodies need rest from the word. The 7th day gives me that rest from the world of work (job). But also frees my time to do Good for others. If God "made it holy for mankind" then I have "sincere Faith" that he made it so we could remember. How unselfish of God! How delightful!
But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ps 1:2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
My faith comes from the Bible.
Its tells me only the God head made this world. And it tells me how he did it.
So What better way to say keep the "Sabbath" per say. by Remembering that yes the bible Tells me he made all things in 7 days I believe that he is indeed the Creator God not just a "moral God" With the, do this and do that type stuff. When in reality he is Calling all men not to ritual but to "rest". "Rest". God wants us to rest in Jesus yes! but also our minds and bodies need rest from the word. The 7th day gives me that rest from the world of work (job). But also frees my time to do Good for others. If God "made it holy for mankind" then I have "sincere Faith" that he made it so we could remember. How unselfish of God! How delightful!
But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Ps 1:2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
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Jesus said to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and our neighbor as ourselves........in that we fulfill the law.
Since everyone fails the neighbor test from time to time, it is best to remember that because we are failures is why we have the sacrifice of Jesus Christ to save us from the penalty of sin.
if you have been completely trained by it for many years and have become perfect then that is indeed it's purpose and will have been fulfulled by you; as Christ showed by example that we too are to walk in perfect fulfillment of all the laws, then you too can teach others how also to walk and or learn to walk in all the laws as He/you did and lead the prisoners (all who have not yet become perfected) out of all darknesses and errors and fears and sins.
If you say this it means that you are not opposing the Law... but I can't see one post since I became part of this thread where you were for the Law.
You are basically saying that David is in direct opposition to you because he loved the Law and meditated on the Law day and night. He never said the Law is against him... this is actually so sad
You are basically saying that David is in direct opposition to you because he loved the Law and meditated on the Law day and night. He never said the Law is against him... this is actually so sad
*righteousness
Talking about righteousness I want to share some information with my CC friends and you can use it or don't use it... up to you
The fence of the Tabernacle in the desert was made from white cloth. White is the color of righteousness. Because of the height of the fence it was close to impossible to see into the courtyard of the Tabernacle from the outside. So if you tried to enter the Tabernacle from the outside in your own righteousness you couldn't access it. The only entrance to courtyard was called "The Way" and was at the Eastern side of the courtyard. Jesus said I am the way
. So without Jesus we cannot enter the Tabernacle."The Way" has interesting symbolism because there were three entrances (shadow of the triune God) and had four pillars (the four gospels about the life of Jesus). The colors of the way was red (the blood of Jesus), blue (can't remember the blue now
) and purple (the Kingship of Jesus). The fence consist of 66 pillars and we have 66 books in the Bible.
Anybody could enter the courtyard. When you entered the courtyard you had to stop at the brazen altar. When we enter covenant with Jesus we have to stop at the place of sacrifice (the cross). Then after you were there you could go to the brazen laver. The laver is where you had to clean yourself before going into the Holy place. Our next step in salvation is to be baptized (clean ourselves) before going into the Holy place.
To enter the Holy place you had to be a Levite priest, but because Jesus tore the veil we could now all enter. Jesus said we are a royal priesthood so that is why you and me can enter my friends
There is so much more detail but this post is now getting a bit long
Love you all and God bless
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The law is given to us by the Lord, the Lord would never give you anything to harm you. The law defines sin, and sin is against you, but the definition of sin is certainly not against you. It tells you what to look for that is against you. It is your protection.
In the law, the Torah, are the ways of the Lord, and the ways of the Lord are for love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. If you feel God's law is out to harm you, then you must also think these things harm you.
In the law, the Torah, are the ways of the Lord, and the ways of the Lord are for love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. If you feel God's law is out to harm you, then you must also think these things harm you.
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