Tasted Death for every Man !

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Magenta

Magenta

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Aaron56 said:
God created man with a body, a soul and a spirit.

The original intent of man (from God's perspective) was for mankind to be the vessels through whom God would bring His eternal economy into time and space into the earth. To this end, God created man to receive His Holy Spirit within himself. When man receives the Holy Spirit within himself, the spirit of man is reconstituted back into the purview of the One Holy Spirit. This "life in the Spirit" does not end because the Spirit of God is eternal. God's motivation for this is love.

This is the baseline standard and expectation for all men was this: that they receive the Holy Spirit.

The first Adam, however, brought sin into the whole race of mankind. By Adam's sin, the body and soul were elevated above the spirit that made Adam (and all mankind) "living beings".

Therefore...

Man is permitted to resist the Holy Spirit (God) and live by the means of his own will and desires. This is the life of the soul that is informed by the body. So, instead of being informed by the Spirit of God for direction and life, man may remain beholden to fulfill the needs of the body by means the man may decide for himself. This is "life in the flesh". Because the flesh dies, life in the flesh also ends. Life in the flesh is not eternal.

If a man does not resist God by exerting his soul he can then receive God by the spirit that is in himself. The reason there is no place for the man to brag about this occurrence is because the thing in the man that can receive God's Holy Spirit was given to the man by God.

This is the gist of the matter.
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Romans 8:7a; Galatians 5:17; John 1:5; John 14:17 ~ The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Darkness does not comprehend the Light. The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
 
Aaron56

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The salvation of man, then, is an "addition by subtraction" arrangement.

Through the rebellion of Adam all men were cursed with the sin nature. When any man refuses to resist the Holy Spirit, the Spirit can then inform the spirit of man. The Holy Spirit always points to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Atheism is a fiction designed by people who simply want to do what they want to do (life directed by the soul). Before Christ's ascension, the whole of creation testified of God. After Christ's ascension, the Holy Spirit began convicting men in their inward parts of sin, righteousness, and judgement. All men know God is real. Most resist Him.
 
homwardbound

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Magenta said:

Romans 8:7a; Galatians 5:17; John 1:5; John 14:17 ~ The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Darkness does not comprehend the Light. The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
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Therefore, renew the old mindset daily, in trust to God in the done work of Son. To do his done work through us all thanks, and not that I got it, I don’t, God does. In process learning doing and seeing to remain humble, not easy< since pride continues to try to take anyone for another ride. Many yet do not see its control yet, I am learning as I think we all are, no male, no female, no jew, no Greek we are won (one) in God’s Spirit and Truth thanks to Jesus being risen
 
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brightfame52

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Heb 2:10 makes it clear who the everyone or every man is in Heb 2:9 for whom Christ tasted death for. Its for every son that He suffered and died for, constituting Him the Captain of their Salvation which brings them to Glory:

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Notice it specifies their Salvation ! So He tasted death or suffered for their Salvation. Also this taste of death for them ensures their being brought to Glory. 2
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead

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brightfame52 said:
Heb 2:10 makes it clear who the everyone or every man is in Heb 2:9 for whom Christ tasted death for. Its for every son that He suffered and died for, constituting Him the Captain of their Salvation which brings them to Glory:

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Notice it specifies their Salvation ! So He tasted death or suffered for their Salvation. Also this taste of death for them ensures their being brought to Glory. 2
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Right. That's who Christ's death is practically efficacious for, but it is legally effective for any and all humans. If any don't accept the pardon, and repent and believe, then that is their choice. But God has made a way for them
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead

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brightfame52 said:
False
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Whosoever will let him come and drink of the waters of life freely. Anybody who wants to come can

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17​
 
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brightfame52

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Whosoever will let him come and drink of the waters of life freely. Anybody who wants to come can

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17​
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okay doesnt negate your false comment
 
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