Take up your cross - what does Jesus mean🤔

[Aaron56]

To me it seems He meant we must surrender our will to the Father's. That's what Jesus did; He obeyed the Father even to death on a cross. He's our example.

That's the point I'm making. Jesus was a living sacrifice before He gave up His life. He accomplished this by submitting His own will to the will of His Father. His cross, the way in which He was destined to go, led Him to an actual cross.

 

[Aaron56]

yes brother I read that in your comment it’s why I went here this is how we get there as we come to let this become our belief of what happened it’s giving us faith to say and truly believe and realize “ I’m not a sinner anymore I don’t have to serve sin I’ve been made free through the doctrine surrounding the cross this is the power to get us going in that direction of truly dying to self our foundation to start believing that truly

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-17‬ ‭

What I mean is there is doctrine that bring the power to truly deny our old self thy sinner who believes “ we all sin all the time no one can Change “ to change that doubt into faith that says “ we died with Christ to sin it no longer has power over us that we should obey the lust nd deceptions it speaks we’ve died and are now new creatures in the resurrection of Christ we can overcome we can do all things in him “



It’s really hard r a sinner to simply not sin, but if we start hearing the power in the gospel through the death and resurrection of Christ d start letting ourselves believe it truly applies to us this is the “ how “ of overcoming by faith because this faith has the power to make us forget what is behind d put on the new That is ahead

in my belief to “ deny ourself and pick up the cross and follow the lord “ is spoken about through the whole New Testament in many various ways

every time we read about repenting from our sin , from abstaining from lusts of the flesh , ect it’s talking about denying ourself nd to accept the doctrines of the cross we find like what pal is talking about there is how we pick up our cross and eventually crucify the flesh

I’m speaking on a plain of faith and not literally or earthly life and death , I hope that makes sense

Oh sure.

The fall opened the eyes of the soul of man. This caused them to create a set of standards that only served their flesh (carnality). By this, they abandoned their design that required the leading of the Spirit of God.

Taking up our cross is part of the ministry of reconciliation which Paul and the apostles carried forward. To be reconciled requires an original state of being otherwise you are simply changing your state. In Christ, we are brought back into the standing with God He established from the beginning: as sons of God. In this relationship, like we saw with Adam and Eve before the fall, the sons are led by the Spirit of God. This is an eternal, unwavering standard. And, although the origin and source of the standard is the same, the manner in which man is reconciled is unique. To put it another way: although all men are only reconciled in Christ, each must walk out his own calling in the Lord.

This is the mystery of a many-membered body. Certainly there are general principles related to living in Christ, but each person in Christ has a unique place in the Lord. Indeed, we are baptized by the Spirit into one body (He places us). This is why man must speak with God today: only the Spirit of God knows the unique and original calling of all men. This cannot be derived from the reading of scripture.