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BradC

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So prejudice of believers is why the Jew is not converted. . .

Blame-shifting to the wrong parties again.
That was a direct question if you want to answer it, but if not, oh well. No one is being blamed for Jew or Gentile who remains in unbelief. My inquiry concerns the gospel getting out unto ALL nations and people of the world. Go into all the world and preach the gospel to EVERY creature is what we have been commanded by our Lord and baptize them. Are we doing it as we take up our cross and does it include the Jews as well as the Gentiles? You should try to minister the gospel to the Jews, God just might teach you something that could be beneficial to your growth in grace and truth in Christ. You don't have to, only if you love them and are concerned for their souls.
 

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That was a direct question if you want to answer it, but if not, oh well. No one is being blamed for Jew or Gentile who remains in unbelief. My inquiry concerns the gospel getting out unto ALL nations and people of the world. Go into all the world and preach the gospel to EVERY creature is what we have been commanded by our Lord and baptize them. Are we doing it as we take up our cross and does it include the Jews as well as the Gentiles? You should try to minister the gospel to the Jews, God just might teach you something that could be beneficial to your growth in grace and truth in Christ. You don't have to, only if you love them and are concerned for their souls.
but.....your theology needs them to be left behind.
so the prophetic clock can kick back in and God can proceed with the 70th week.
a-a-a-a-a-anyways
 

iamsoandso

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i think (without quoting a lot of scripture,you all seem to be clear on scr.),,,there are "two women" free and bond,,one is bound to the old law and the other is not,,,one says she is Israel one is (Israel the church). the prophecies pertaining to both are found within the scriptures. there are several men named Barnabas,several named Judas,,several named ect.ect,,,,

there are two different Jerusalem,two different Israels,two different women,,,one is a carnal woman,a carnal Jerusalem,a carnal Israel,,,,she says "i will not be a widow",that is she considers her husband to be god and the god of the Christians to be an lie. she says "i will not be without child" that is she believes her(as the woman)and her husband(god according to the way she believes),will bear children=followers of the old Jewish faith.

then there is the woman(church) whom is espoused to her husband(Christ) and she is not barren,,, her children of faith are born of the blood of Christ. they have no continuing city to dwell in,and they together will cross over unto the promised land in heaven.

she(the Jew=carnal woman)was subject to which ever nations laws in which she dwelt from ad70 till 1948,if (and i do not use America=a nation) for we know there is no nation named America but instead "the Americas"= north,central and south Americas as a continent with many nations in it where she (the Jew) emigrated to after it's discovery. but all of the nations formed where she dwelt she(the Jew) still was in subjection to for she had no interest to form another nation called "Israel" in another place,so she obeyed the gentile rulers laws and fulfilled her time.

so as time(times of the gentiles) went on man who saw not carnal from spiritual found liberty after ww2 to say,,,"let us make an nation called Israel that was before ad70,and was not because she was destroyed in ad70",and finding this liberty set up this nation that was,and was not yet is that we refer to as Israel today.

now this Israel that was scattered into all nations of the earth and subject to the manners of laws and rights of these many nations. now this Israel being stood up as a man and now living,is not any longer subject to the rule of any of the nations of the earth,and the people of this nation have the right to emigrate and dwell in the nation of Israel or remain in the nations where they had been scattered.

now it would be a frightful thing for one to realize that they were "scattered through every nation",if we bear in mind the ones whom did apply for duel citizenship after the formation of Israel in 1948 but remained in the nations where they dwelt,
why? that is being scattered they bought banks,and oil companies they ran for office. they bought t.v. stations,radio stations,factories,ships and more.,,,we always point out that they did this in the u.s. but we forget they did this in every nation they were scattered into,Iran,Germany,Italy,Mexico,Spain,France,England and so on.

in another day the man of sin will rise up with a small people,he will have power over the food,the oil,the communications,the ships,the gold,the silver the water,the whole economy. he will be received in Israel as one of their own and it will be accepted that he has the right to be in the temple of god(remember what they said to Paul in the last few chapters of acts when he took gentiles into the temple),,,

i don't think most Christians are lacking much on the prophecies of the church(woman),,,,but this other woman,they are confusing her and her prophecies whit the church. when the water is all polluted with her factories,and she becomes the lawmaker in every nation and passes laws against drilling wells in your yard. when she converts the seeds of god to hybrids and g.m.o.'s,when none of you know how to farm and hunt, then we will understand she dwells in all of our nations.

who owns the banks?,who gave you your debit card and pin number?,,,who invented the credit card/debit cards?,,,don't you pay your light bills with it? don't you pay your water bill with it?,,,,,well any how i suppose then we will all realize that we were deceived,we believed he was suppose to be there,so we put him there. that we worshiped this image as if it was god,we had his power in our right hands and his number in our front-lets,,,,support your local Jew?

"All i know is that i am not a Marxist,,,by Karl Marx",,,,they went out from us to show that they were not of us,but they also have their clever devises sitting in every nation where they dwelt during the captivity,they have the power to turn your utilities on and off. they can crumble the economy and you will try to slide your debit card and access your 27,000 dollars and they'll say,,"the lights went out and we cant verify anyone's amount",,,,

who set them back up as a nation?,who gives them billions of dollars?,,,,who supports them?,,,who gives them military aid?,,,the christian nations?,,,,,hmmm,,,
 
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CoooCaw

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i think (without quoting a lot of scripture,you all seem to be clear on scr.),,,there are "two women" free and bond,,one is bound to the old law and the other is not,,,one says she is Israel one is (Israel the church). the prophecies pertaining to both are found within the scriptures. there are several men named Barnabas,several named Judas,,several named ect.ect,,,,

there are two different Jerusalem,two different Israels,two different women,,,one is a carnal woman,a carnal Jerusalem,a carnal Israel,,,,she says "i will not be a widow",that is she considers her husband to be god and the god of the Christians to be an lie. she says "i will not be without child" that is she believes her(as the woman)and her husband(god according to the way she believes),will bear children=followers of the old Jewish faith.

then there is the woman(church) whom is espoused to her husband(Christ) and she is not barren,,, her children of faith are born of the blood of Christ. they have no continuing city to dwell in,and they together will cross over unto the promised land in heaven.

she(the Jew=carnal woman)was subject to which ever nations laws in which she dwelt from ad70 till 1948,if (and i do not use America=a nation) for we know there is no nation named America but instead "the Americas"= north,central and south Americas as a continent with many nations in it where she (the Jew) emigrated to after it's discovery. but all of the nations formed where she dwelt she(the Jew) still was in subjection to for she had no interest to form another nation called "Israel" in another place,so she obeyed the gentile rulers laws and fulfilled her time.

so as time(times of the gentiles) went on man who saw not carnal from spiritual found liberty after ww2 to say,,,"let us make an nation called Israel that was before ad70,and was not because she was destroyed in ad70",and finding this liberty set up this nation that was,and was not yet is that we refer to as Israel today.

now this Israel that was scattered into all nations of the earth and subject to the manners of laws and rights of these many nations. now this Israel being stood up as a man and now living,is not any longer subject to the rule of any of the nations of the earth,and the people of this nation have the right to emigrate and dwell in the nation of Israel or remain in the nations where they had been scattered.

now it would be a frightful thing for one to realize that they were "scattered through every nation",if we bear in mind the ones whom did apply for duel citizenship after the formation of Israel in 1948 but remained in the nations where they dwelt,
why? that is being scattered they bought banks,and oil companies they ran for office. they bought t.v. stations,radio stations,factories,ships and more.,,,we always point out that they did this in the u.s. but we forget they did this in every nation they were scattered into,Iran,Germany,Italy,Mexico,Spain,France,England and so on.

in another day the man of sin will rise up with a small people,he will have power over the food,the oil,the communications,the ships,the gold,the silver the water,the whole economy. he will be received in Israel as one of their own and it will be accepted that he has the right to be in the temple of god(remember what they said to Paul in the last few chapters of acts when he took gentiles into the temple),,,

i don't think most Christians are lacking much on the prophecies of the church(woman),,,,but this other woman,they are confusing her and her prophecies whit the church. when the water is all polluted with her factories,and she becomes the lawmaker in every nation and passes laws against drilling wells in your yard. when she converts the seeds of god to hybrids and g.m.o.'s,when none of you know how to farm and hunt, then we will understand she dwells in all of our nations.

who owns the banks?,who gave you your debit card and pin number?,,,who invented the credit card/debit cards?,,,don't you pay your light bills with it? don't you pay your water bill with it?,,,,,well any how i suppose then we will all realize that we were deceived,we believed he was suppose to be there,so we put him there. that we worshiped this image as if it was god,we had his power in our right hands and his number in our front-lets,,,,support your local Jew?

"All i know is that i am not a Marxist,,,by Karl Marx",,,,they went out from us to show that they were not of us,but they also have their clever devises sitting in every nation where they dwelt during the captivity,they have the power to turn your utilities on and off. they can crumble the economy and you will try to slide your debit card and access your 27,000 dollars and they'll say,,"the lights went out and we cant verify anyone's amount",,,,

who set them back up as a nation?,who gives them billions of dollars?,,,,who supports them?,,,who gives them military aid?,,,the christian nations?,,,,,hmmm,,,
Blame the Jews? - Goddit

it is a fool who believes such propoganda and a greater fool who spreads it
 
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The Israeli government monitors all American internet access, so I would never bash them on a forum. I don't want to end up like one of those babies Praus showed us.
I'm hardly surprised. :eek:

http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...vernment-routinely-hires-internet-trolls.html

"David Petraeus essentially admitted that the CIA has a covert online presence that it uses not only for data mining purposes but also to infiltrate online conversations for the purpose of protecting "national security" interests. Such interests, it turns out, include disrupting conversations that discuss topics like 9/11 truth, for instance, or U.S. involvement in giving weapons to Syrian rebels.:
 

zone

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i am christian by faith,,and Jewish by blood,,,
well, i'd say me too....but there's no such thing as jewish by blood.

you are jewish by tribal or community affiliation.

one is not born a jew...you are born into a jewish family who raises you in the traditions and faith and worldview.

being jewish is not racial. it is an identity.

but i know what you mean:)

i simply posted for the (hopefully) education of the xtian zionists who keep accusing ppl they don't know of antisemitism.

the ama-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-azing part is...it's the pretribber dispies who are the real antisemites - they don't seem to really care about ANY semitic people.

ARMAGEDDON BABY! we need to be RAPTURED.
and we can't until that Antichrist sets himself up in the tem......oh n.m.
 

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There is reference of those of the House of David (Yeshua) being given judgment in the Psalms, but I am thinking specifically of the type of judgment being given to the saints when it is time to judge.
They will be judging the world, not believers.

Also Jesus, Yeshua, gives to us the judgment of the twelve tribes of Israel..........

If Yeshua had given us this type of judgment in this age, He would never have taught us, "JUdge not and ye shall not be judged for with the judgment ye mete out shall ye be judged..."
The saints do not judge the world until the end of time.

But judgment of the saints occurred when they came to saving faith in Christ Jesus who paid the judgment on their sin.

"Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Ro 8:1)

 

iamsoandso

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well, i'd say me too....but there's no such thing as jewish by blood.

you are jewish by tribal or community affiliation.

one is not born a jew...you are born into a jewish family who raises you in the traditions and faith and worldview.

being jewish is not racial. it is an identity.

but i know what you mean:)

i simply posted for the (hopefully) education of the xtian zionists who keep accusing ppl they don't know of antisemitism.

the ama-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-azing part is...it's the pretribber dispies who are the real antisemites - they don't seem to really care about ANY semitic people.

ARMAGEDDON BABY! we need to be RAPTURED.
and we can't until that Antichrist sets himself up in the tem......oh n.m.
thats exactly correct,,its misused so often if you say it differently no one understands,,,i was always raised as christian,, in 1750 in n.c. is where i first found members of my family that were Jewish by faith they were members of a friends(quaker meeting house) that is as we know some of the friends churches allowed Jews,Buddhist,Christians ect.as members. but all of my family was christian from that point on.
 

iamsoandso

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coocaw,,,there are good white people and bad white people,,,there are good Chinese and bad Chinese,,,,now of those we refer to as Jews,,,i have met both good and bad,,,some who followed the christian faith,,,and some who were Jewish by faith,,,,,,also some who,,,"turned and spit when i mentioned Jesus name and cursed me",,,,these men are those who i am speaking of,,(Revelations 18;23) ,,,"thy merchants",,,the bankers,c.e.o.'s,ect. are those who,,,,"deceive the nations",,,,


now not any of the others "of the same race of whom we refer to as Jews",,,look at the number of times in rev. 18 the word "merchants" is used.,,,,,,that is a "certain group of Jews who do this" they deceive the nations with their merchandise,so they are scattered into every nation,,,,,but now peter and john and Paul and even Jesus(who were of the same race),,,were not and did not believe as do these.,,,,,we cannot "lump sum all Jews together and say they are all of god",,,,some are though,,,,i am in the midst of loving you,,,,
 
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Bryancampbell

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I was just curious of what kind of background you might been raised (not anymore since you said Christian) or what you have grown to learn? Different Jewish backgrounds have different views on Judaism or lifestyle, and even both culturally. There really isn't one way of the Jewish faith and I was just curious. Okay then take care.
 
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Jews dance in the street.

[video=youtube;LTQxu6LZQys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQxu6LZQys[/video]
 
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Bryancampbell

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Brother xuanvuive2013,

Do you have a video of the song "candlelight" by the maccabeats?
 
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When is the last time you witnessed Christ and him crucified to a Jew without prejudice? God is your witness and he will be writing down your answer in his book. Same question for unclefester, Elin, Praus and the like. Even if you don't answer on this site, the truth will be manifest by the light along with all those secret counsels of the heart (1Cor 4:3-5). Do you love your neighbor as yourself even if it be a Jew? If you do, then go tell your neighbor about the love of God that sent his Son into the world to seek and save that which is lost, to the Jew first and then to the Gentile (Rom 1:16).
Everyone--Jewish, atheist, Muslim, Hindu--gets the same testimony from me--how Jesus Christ saved me from death by alcohol and various darknesses that I learned in India and Central America and on and on.

My testimony doesn't really even concentrate on salvation, because I'm still here, not dead yet. It's about being healed by the Blood of the Lamb (1 Pet 2:24) and how every single day that I live sober is completely the work of the Holy Spirit (not my work
) (John 15:5) and it's completely because of God's mercy on me (Exod 34:6-7).

Jesus Christ and Bible study is my sobriety program.