Speaking in tongues

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lukeabers

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Hey genius. I'm good. Are you related to Tony Stark?
No, but I have one of his t-shirts.

So, your education is 'good'? Eh, could be better ;)

Seriously, you want to flash compound probability on a board where likely no one knows above basic algebra, fine, but you've got to back it with something. You got a degree or you just pulling names out of a hat?
 

cv5

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No, but I have one of his t-shirts.

So, your education is 'good'? Eh, could be better ;)

Seriously, you want to flash compound probability on a board where likely no one knows above basic algebra, fine, but you've got to back it with something. You got a degree or you just pulling names out of a hat?
I have a Tony Stark goatee in homage. Degree? Its about -15 C where I'm at. I have an Excel program for my compound probability calculations.
 

lukeabers

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I have a Tony Stark goatee in homage. Degree? Its about -15 C where I'm at. I have an Excel program for my compound probability calculations.
You can make mario in excel. Not impressed ;)

What are your goals? You doing anything with what you know?
 

cv5

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You can make mario in excel. Not impressed ;)

What are your goals? You doing anything with what you know?
Im not trying to impress anybody. Ever. Sure. Working with some NRC scientists on a couple of projects. It was a bear, but ultimately a tremendous success. The first huge project is now evidently top secret. Boxed it up and stuffed it into a warehouse like an Indiana Jones movie. I just got word the latest project worked like a charm, despite the efforts of a couple bad actors in the mix trying to interject with their inane theories. Some people are hopeless....they just don't get it. And you can't fix stupid.
 

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Im not trying to impress anybody. Ever. Sure. Working with some NRC scientists on a couple of projects. It was a bear, but ultimately a tremendous success. The first huge project is now evidently top secret. Boxed it up and stuffed it into a warehouse like an Indiana Jones movie. I just got word the latest project worked like a charm, despite the efforts of a couple bad actors in the mix trying to interject with their inane theories. Some people are hopeless....they just don't get it. And you can't fix stupid.
NRC *Ahem* Nuc... Resea... Ce...? Nice.

And, you can fix stupid. I was one heck of an idiot before!

So, what are you up to now? I've got quite a bit going on here, could use some serious talent that can be trusted on deck...

Interested?
 
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Garee... what bible do you read? Is it not the KJV? What is the title of the 40th book? Is it not "The Gospel according to Matthew"?

You might want to rethink this response.
"The Gospel according to Matthew" a tittle. It is an oral tradition of men nothing more and nothing less. The good new begins in Genesis . After each day he would say and God saw it was "gospel" .Good defines God . The gospel according to God.

The whole Bible is the gospel as the perfect law of God it as good news quickens our souls giving us his understanding .

Why men would divide it up as if the gospel was after or according to men like Mathew, and not Christ who moved them . W men would lok for the gospel limited to those four books. Confusing to a new believer.

Christ was crucified for the sin of the world not Mather, Mark, Luke and John. Just someone got a little zealous for the flesh of the apostles . "The Gospel found in the of Mathew" would by more appropriate I believe.

2 Peter 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
 

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Nope, no need for a gun. God has proven that to me, over and over again, dovey. He is the Lion of Judah...I'm good. Now, you, on the other hand...holding onto that naive view of the world, you might want to get yourself a firearm and some training ;)
You were asking about tongues earlier.
It occurred to me today that they are also good for warfare prayer.
If you pray in the Spirit imagine the powerful prayers that are be delivered against the enemy.
 
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You... YOU... are using circular reasoning. Don't waste time by accusing me of doing so with your ridiculous unsupported made-up definition. You have it stuck in your mind that Deut 4 means a single word, and you are using that evidence as proof of itself; the essence of circular reasoning. you need separate evidence to support your point. The verse is clearly talking about the message as a whole, not a single word. We use the term, "word" as a synonym for "message"; as did the prophets: "Hear the word of the Lord"... it was not a single word.

Now, for the fourth time, where is the following in Scripture?

Now, for the fourth time to make it possible not to be seduced with new revelations when God clearly is no longer bringing them. He warns us beforehand .

And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, "if it were possible", even the "elect".But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold (before hand) you all things .Mark !3:212-23

Why is it impossible to seduce the Elect?

He has told us beforehand again .

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.1 Corinthians 13:8-10

Why go above that which is written? Something missing? What part?

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.revelation22 18-21

Again do you have something to add to it or something to take away?
 

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Now, for the fourth time to make it possible not to be seduced with new revelations when God clearly is no longer bringing them. He warns us beforehand .

And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, "if it were possible", even the "elect".But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold (before hand) you all things .Mark !3:212-23
Fail. Here is what you wrote: "If any man say I have seen the Lord, heard audible voice, or had a dream as a personal experience we are to believe not.He warned us before hand."

You still have not shared where that is found in Scripture. Not even once. The only reasonable conclusion is that you made it up. It would seem that you are the one adding to the gospel.
 

cv5

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Oh yea, because clearly, that is what I am talking about. Yea man, it's cool. I don't believe in the rapture, but God does say He lets certain people die off because they just can't deal with what is coming. So, shape up or ship out. Up to you.

Catch you on the other side, dovey :D
I don't believe in the rapture

Inconceivable. Unless Paul is out of his mind.
 

cv5

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NRC *Ahem* Nuc... Resea... Ce...? Nice.

And, you can fix stupid. I was one heck of an idiot before!

So, what are you up to now? I've got quite a bit going on here, could use some serious talent that can be trusted on deck...

Interested?
At this point I am considering retirement and transitioning to full time ministry with my wife, depending on certain developments. But good luck in your endeavors.
 
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Fail. Here is what you wrote: "If any man say I have seen the Lord, heard audible voice, or had a dream as a personal experience we are to believe not.He warned us before hand."

You still have not shared where that is found in Scripture. Not even once. The only reasonable conclusion is that you made it up. It would seem that you are the one adding to the gospel.
I would say what I offered in Mark13 and 1 Corinthians 13 making it impossible to deceive the elect with any new revelation after the book of Revelation is enough of a warning beforehand.

Why go above that which is written? Something missing? What part?

What is the purpose of the warning?
 

Dino246

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I would say what I offered in Mark13 and 1 Corinthians 13 making it impossible to deceive the elect with any new revelation after the book of Revelation is enough of a warning beforehand.

Why go above that which is written? Something missing? What part?

What is the purpose of the warning?
You made a claim. Here is your claim: "If any man say I have seen the Lord, heard audible voice, or had a dream as a personal experience we are to believe not.He warned us before hand."

Let's put aside the dodging, avoiding, misdirecting, and every other tactic you have in your back pocket to get out of answering my question. Where in Scripture is that stated?

Either quote where that is in Scripture, with the book, chapter and verse reference, or admit that it is not Scripture and that you made it up. It really is that simple.
 
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I don't believe in the rapture

Inconceivable. Unless Paul is out of his mind.
Why out of His mind? Did you mean having the mind that was in Jesus, the mind led by the Holy Spirit ?

When you say you do not believe in the rapture it refers to the resurrections. Rising up as a figure of speech Which of the two do you not believe in? The first resurrection as the glory spoken of in 1 Peter 1:11 or the final at the end of the age .This is when those who had part in the first up until the last day they will be awoken along with those of earth will both receive the promise of our new incorruptible bodies in the twinkling of the eye.

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1 Peter 1:9-11

John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

Or are you one who does believe the Holy Spirit was not given until Acts 2? And the graves were not opened as the first resurrection ?
 
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You made a claim. Here is your claim: "If any man say I have seen the Lord, heard audible voice, or had a dream as a personal experience we are to believe not.He warned us before hand."

Let's put aside the dodging, avoiding, misdirecting, and every other tactic you have in your back pocket to get out of answering my question. Where in Scripture is that stated?

Either quote where that is in Scripture, with the book, chapter and verse reference, or admit that it is not Scripture and that you made it up. It really is that simple.

I have offered a couple verses .Its up to you to provide something that says; it is OK to widen the authority of the "law of faith" the skies the limit just believe . I can see you are trying to make it into a philosophical theory subject to change . Are you receiving new revelations the missing parts ?

Round it goes.What goes up must come down .

Why is it not possible to deceive the elect in respect to be warned before hand "

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away1 Corinthians 13:8-10
 

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Praying in tongues or with the understanding us within the limits if loving yourself too.

The Bible says he that speaks in tongues edifies himself.

Gave you ever wondered if there is something wring with you? Others read tge Bible and understand that ut says certain things, that the dead will actually rise, that we should assemble and edift one another. Ithers, like me see on this smaller matter "he that speaks in tongues edifies himself" and are abke to oercieve that he that speaks in tongues edifies himself.

You read the Bible and come away with odeas about an apostles spirit being dispersed among the saints--- if I understand you right, at death, a geretical view of the resyrrection and contradictions between what Paul said and love. Isn't it odd that you have a religion of one, as if only you coukd understand the Bible?

I would encourage you to humble yourself before the Lord and ask him to open your spiritual eyes so that you ight see, that strongholds in your mind could be broken down. Then seek some brothers in Christ to help you.
This is a good advice but it is rare to see the givers of this advice practice it themselves.

What does it mean "..the narrow road leads to life and the wider to destruction.." or "..the first shall be the last and the last be the first...".
It is never about majority and it is never about what others say or what your teachers teach you, it is about the truth.
 

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Sure it would. Polygraphs are super dependable. As for methods, they could be fine tuned as testing proceeds. You have to start somewhere. I'm game. Anybody else?
I still do not see exactly where the lie detectors would come into your research design, even if they were reliable? Are you wanting to interview people who speak in tongues for sincerity? Do you want to put a lie detector on someone who experien

This is a good advice but it is rare to see the givers of this advice practice it themselves.

What does it mean "..the narrow road leads to life and the wider to destruction.." or "..the first shall be the last and the last be the first...".
It is never about majority and it is never about what others say or what your teachers teach you, it is about the truth.
Few there be that find it means more than one.
 

Noose

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I still do not see exactly where the lie detectors would come into your research design, even if they were reliable? Are you wanting to interview people who speak in tongues for sincerity? Do you want to put a lie detector on someone who experien


Few there be that find it means more than one.
Correct, what it cannot mean is popular/ majority/ traditional.
 

presidente

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Correct, what it cannot mean is popular/ majority/ traditional.
Revelation shows a great multitude from various kindred, tongues, and nations. The Lord had not gathered the sheep from the other fold when He spoke those words about the narrow gate.
 
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Revelation shows a great multitude from various kindred, tongues, and nations. The Lord had not gathered the sheep from the other fold when He spoke those words about the narrow gate.
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