Slain in the spirit?

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ResidentAlien

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wolfwint said:
What is the name of the church? Rebibal for Christ?
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He misspelled it. It's the Revival for Christ Club in Moore, OK. It's a cult-like group led by "Chief Apostle" Timothy Vanover. The guy has been married three times and divorced twice. Many of their services are available on YouTube. A former member also did an interview about a year ago in which she describes the cult-like conditions within the group. Project Hope Podcast: S2 Ep. 3: Amanda Redwine on her experience with & exposure of 'Revival for Christ Club' and its leader, Timothy Vanover (audio only). Listen to the interview all the way to through to get all the details. Of course as in most cults, Vanover is getting rich while the rest have to fork over their cash to him. As Redwine describes it, it's a very insular group and they think that if you're not with them you're probably not even a Christian (another big warning sign).

They own the Yellow Rose Theater in Moore, which does Vegas-styled revues with impersonators doing people like Dean Martin and the "Rat Pack," Elvis and James Brown, among others. Real wholesome Christian entertainment.
 
wolfwint

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ResidentAlien said:
He misspelled it. It's the Revival for Christ Club in Moore, OK. It's a cult-like group led by "Chief Apostle" Timothy Vanover. The guy has been married three times and divorced twice. Many of their services are available on YouTube. A former member also did an interview about a year ago in which she describes the cult-like conditions within the group. Project Hope Podcast: S2 Ep. 3: Amanda Redwine on her experience with & exposure of 'Revival for Christ Club' and its leader, Timothy Vanover (audio only). Listen to the interview all the way to through to get all the details. Of course as in most cults, Vanover is getting rich while the rest have to fork over their cash to him. As Redwine describes it, it's a very insular group and they think that if you're not with them you're probably not even a Christian (another big warning sign).

They own the Yellow Rose Theater in Moore, which does Vegas-styled revues with impersonators doing people like Dean Martin and the "Rat Pack," Elvis and James Brown, among others. Real wholesome Christian entertainment.
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Thank you for Information. It's Support my view from this whole thing.
 
wolfwint

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Blain said:
No I mean an actual explanation not taking scripture out of context. What do you think he meant when he was saying this? he was talking about something else not this specific situation that is a generic response that can be applied to anything I could use the same for say speaking in tongues or the antichrist what about what happened makes you think satan had anything to do with it?


Re read my op and show me where satan came as an angel of light
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You dont know what I am talking about from, right. ? That means that Satan and his helpers makes themselves so godly that it lookslike that their deeds and sayings are from God.
Again falling backward as a blessing you find in the NT not as an overwhelming result of the power of God ore the Holy Spirit.
You find it in occultism, pagan religions and in charismatic circles like you expierienced in this Church.
It looks like from God, but it is not!
 
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@Blain if you really want to know, investigate about this pastor, inquire on how this person lives, then you will know. I do believe in miracles but I am certain this has nothing to to with the spirit.

Be careful.
 
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@Blain , I know I mentioned about you being forced to walk up there and from my interpretation of what you wrote, that's what I thought but I should have asked you first and confirmed whether or not that was the case. To which I say that is my mistake and I'm sorry.
 
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It seems to me folks are searching for the absolute chaotic videos to try to prove something against Pentecostalism. This happens quite often on CC.
Another lie used is putting the Pentecostal movement(1906) and the charismatic movement(1967) together as if they are the same. THEY ARE NOT. Hillsong, Bethel, the NAR, & Vineyard are all charismatics.
Televangelists & other tv preachers say they're the same when they are not.
MacArthur, the cronies of his church & Justin Peters also put these two groups together in all of their writings & seminars. They also use televangelists for examples who are independents.
They use all the whacked out people in the charismatic movement to purposely accuse the Pentecostal movement of teaching false doctrine & living like the devil. They do that on purpose to turn others against them.
I've been a conservative Pentecostal for 45 years & have seen nothing of what the opponents claim.
 
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Edify said:
It seems to me folks are searching for the absolute chaotic videos to try to prove something against Pentecostalism. This happens quite often on CC.
Another lie used is putting the Pentecostal movement(1906) and the charismatic movement(1967) together as if they are the same. THEY ARE NOT. Hillsong, Bethel, the NAR, & Vineyard are all charismatics.
Televangelists & other tv preachers say they're the same when they are not.
MacArthur, the cronies of his church & Justin Peters also put these two groups together in all of their writings & seminars. They also use televangelists for examples who are independents.
They use all the whacked out people in the charismatic movement to purposely accuse the Pentecostal movement of teaching false doctrine & living like the devil. They do that on purpose to turn others against them.
I've been a conservative Pentecostal for 45 years & have seen nothing of what the opponents claim.
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Yes, the pentecostal and charismatic teachings came in different waves and there teachings are partwise different.
When the pentecostal teaching came to germany in 1907, the company signs were falling down, laughing out of controle, making voices like animals,
Signs which were we find later in the charismatic movements, too. Also is common the teaching about the baptism of the Holy Spirit, which is in company with the gift of speaking in tounges as sign for it.
This is known as 2nd expierience/ for empowerment.
Some, like Oness pentecostal teach that without this baptism the believer is not saved. Others teach that an believer needs this baptism for the ministrie. So that without this baptism you lack an important part of be an follower of Christ. ( This was this was told me from different people, charismatics as well pentecostals.)
This creates in my eyes an first class and an 2nd class christianity. Nobody calls it so, but in my expieriences they treat me in this way.
Finaly the Lord will decides what is right ore not.
 
Blain

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CherieR said:
@Blain , I know I mentioned about you being forced to walk up there and from my interpretation of what you wrote, that's what I thought but I should have asked you first and confirmed whether or not that was the case. To which I say that is my mistake and I'm sorry.
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no worries your fine
 
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wolfwint said:
Yes, the pentecostal and charismatic teachings came in different waves and there teachings are partwise different.
When the pentecostal teaching came to germany in 1907, the company signs were falling down, laughing out of controle, making voices like animals,
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Would like to see your source.
 
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