Sin and Glory

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throughfaith

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posthuman said:
Justified by His blood, Romans 5:9

That's the atonement, and that atonement only justifies the one who believes Him. The one who does not believe Him, not justified = not atoned for: therefore they will die in their sins.

He glorifies those He justifies, and those He justifies are those who believe, and He justifies them by His atoning blood.
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They will die without Christ . They won't be glorified..In calvinism there is no good news . They can't tell a person that Jesus has died for their sins and was raised for their justification.
 
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Guojing

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throughfaith said:
18¶Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. ( there to be received by faith )
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So my question is, why wasn't the term that you included in bracket appear also on the first part of the verse?

Why did the first Adam's descendants automatically got that condemnation, whether they receive it by faith or not?

Can they declare at any point "I renounced this sinful nature from Adam" and be rid of it?

Interestingly, many Christians believe that if we do the same renouncement with Jesus's free gift, we can actually lose it.
 
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Scribe

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And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

I am not a Calvinist. However there is not such thing as receiving atonement without also being justified, and glorified. The glorified is for the most part future and we have a taste of it now.
 
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