Signs and wonders in comparison to the authority of scripture
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So, you must believe that I Corinthians 13:10 refers to the return of Christ?
Whatever.
The debate goes on....There are plenty of supporters of both views.
If you want to believe that, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.
The same goes for the Bible.
Just to make sure I am clear, I believe...
1. God still does miracles .
2. God did an abundance of special miracles at certain times in history.
3. God chose certain special miracles at certain times that we no longer see or experience. Yes, I'm taking about Benny Hinn or any other TV preacher who likes to swing his jacket and babble.
4. People still are often healed as an answer to prayer or simply God's grace. Sometimes that doesn't happen as it did when Jesus and His apostles walked the earth.
I don't see the charismatic Preachers that have used your argument against me out in the hospitals seeing thousands, hundreds of even dozens healed; No streets filled with the handicapped restored. The most I've seen are obnoxious street preachers hollering at the college students about their sins and offering no redemption through Christ.
Not all charismatics behaved that way. I've had plenty as friends. But I had enough of the others....so have a lot of us.
Whatever.
The debate goes on....There are plenty of supporters of both views.
If you want to believe that, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.
The same goes for the Bible.
Just to make sure I am clear, I believe...
1. God still does miracles .
2. God did an abundance of special miracles at certain times in history.
3. God chose certain special miracles at certain times that we no longer see or experience. Yes, I'm taking about Benny Hinn or any other TV preacher who likes to swing his jacket and babble.
4. People still are often healed as an answer to prayer or simply God's grace. Sometimes that doesn't happen as it did when Jesus and His apostles walked the earth.
I don't see the charismatic Preachers that have used your argument against me out in the hospitals seeing thousands, hundreds of even dozens healed; No streets filled with the handicapped restored. The most I've seen are obnoxious street preachers hollering at the college students about their sins and offering no redemption through Christ.
Not all charismatics behaved that way. I've had plenty as friends. But I had enough of the others....so have a lot of us.
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It happened the first time in the woods. Then on the patio of a bike shop after dark. and the last time I was helping my husband and children clear some wood from an overgrown lot next door. Honestly, the last time I was grumbling in my heart about being out there and then it happened.
It being the second time I was bit by a copperhead made it very severe. I felt like I was leaving my body and my heart was beating so hard and fast I thought it was going to stop. My hands and feet were ice cold. I thought I was dying.
My husband and children came together, and my husband read that scripture and I declared I believe it, because I had been meditating on that scripture to keep from slipping away.
After we prayed, I opened my eyes and every symptom I had was gone! I was healed! I began calling all of my friends to tell them what GOD had done for me. Praise our Father for His Loving Kindness toward us!
It being the second time I was bit by a copperhead made it very severe. I felt like I was leaving my body and my heart was beating so hard and fast I thought it was going to stop. My hands and feet were ice cold. I thought I was dying.
My husband and children came together, and my husband read that scripture and I declared I believe it, because I had been meditating on that scripture to keep from slipping away.
After we prayed, I opened my eyes and every symptom I had was gone! I was healed! I began calling all of my friends to tell them what GOD had done for me. Praise our Father for His Loving Kindness toward us!
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I believe my older children have been strengthened by my experiences. They have seen GOD show up for me and speak to me concerning the things that are happening now. I praise GOD because He is using that to draw them nearer to Himself as they see the path the earth is on, and their only hope is in the Living GOD!
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I know how serious that could be. I taught a class on on the local varieties of venomous snakes, so people would be able to identify them and know what to do if they see them. Unfortunately, you couldn't even see them until it was too late. I'm glad you are OK and so many blessed by His healing kindness.
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Wow, that truly is amazing! I have seen videos of the harrowing healing process from copperhead bites. Sometimes it even takes months! I reached out to my local hospital to see how common bites are around here. We are almost infested with them. We bought some land 15 miles out of town 3 years ago, and I've already caught and transferred 6 of them, and my ex killed 7! Not counting the dozen or so i couldn't catch.
You truly are blessed!
You truly are blessed!
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The LORD has been sooo good to me! Never has He failed me, I've not gotten everything I Want, but He has been more than sufficient for All I've needed. 
You can use Hot Lime Pellets from Lowes to sprinkle around your home to keep them at bay, but you will have to reapply after a rain.
You can use Hot Lime Pellets from Lowes to sprinkle around your home to keep them at bay, but you will have to reapply after a rain.
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Maybe try looking at the Scripture in the spirit in which it was written in conjunction with the episode of the snake biting Paul on the island of Malta. Mark 16v18, Acts 28v3-6.
As regards, "if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them," the apostle WFP Burton, when he was in the Congo, the witch doctors tried to kill him on different occasions by poisoning the water, which he, not knowing it was poisoned, drank, however, it had no effect on him. The witch doctors who tried to kill him, confessed to him these details after their conversions, you can read about this in his books.
As regards, "if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them," the apostle WFP Burton, when he was in the Congo, the witch doctors tried to kill him on different occasions by poisoning the water, which he, not knowing it was poisoned, drank, however, it had no effect on him. The witch doctors who tried to kill him, confessed to him these details after their conversions, you can read about this in his books.
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I tend to think that when Jesus said that his followers would do greater works than "these", that he meant that we would preach the gospel and people would believe without having to do great signs and wonders. That is a great miracle, that people would be cut through the heart and believe by the simple gospel.
Key word: necessarily
It is the most sought out source though.
Of course, it still must pass textual criticism.
The logic is sound when if you have letters in formation during the first century then they are typically viewed as being more authentic that letters in the 600s A.D.
I'm not saying it is always the case but just the preferred method.
It is the most sought out source though.
Of course, it still must pass textual criticism.
The logic is sound when if you have letters in formation during the first century then they are typically viewed as being more authentic that letters in the 600s A.D.
I'm not saying it is always the case but just the preferred method.
When I spoke of oldest I was referring to manuscripts and not Bible translations. I believe the newer translations are more accurate due to technology and textual criticism that now looks at most of the known manuscripts from each different family or periods of time. Where as for instance the KJV by majority pulled most of its text from the Byzantine family of manuscripts which are centuries removed from the originals.