Should Christians entertain non-binary persons in their sexual delusions?

[Lafftur]

When the nations come together the new age movement will be a unified religious system with all religions interpreted by the occult, and evolution, and people can still evolve, which is the time the world will only want to hear the Bible according to the new age movement.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction but the world will not care too much after a while for they will be pursuing the things of the new age movement which when they evolve to be greater and spiritual(so they think) there is no marriage anyway, so they are willing to put marriage aside to pursue the process of evolution.

Which the last king, New Age Christ, will have no desire of women for he abides by the law no marriage for a man and a woman but the main thing is he wants to pursue evolution and will not care about marriage but his goal is to rule the world.

That is why they are pushing it so much in the world, and a lot in America to get people to believe they are born gay, transgender, to a society of people who are more lost, insecure, and that about themselves, and depressed than the past.

Oh maybe this will make me happy, oh I am a boy but I feel feminine, and that is because they are crybabies today compared to years ago, and oh I am a girl but I feel masculine, and that is because they got to be tougher than years ago, but they are confused and today's world is confusing them, especially when people are more selfish and arrogant with a me attitude compared to years ago.

They broke them apart from being together so they would be individuals so they would be insecure, rely on themselves to cause them to be selfish and arrogant, and self absorbed, and rebellious, and feel like they are alone, and now they want to bring them back together but with a different attitude than the 1950's, an attitude needed to lead them to the New Age Christ.

And pointing men out in the media as dogs not caring about the feelings of women, and aggressive, and woman are controlling and money hungry in a relationship, and women's lib, feminism, and now men's groups against women, to try to drive a wedge between men and women so they cannot stand each other.

For they are preparing them beforehand so they will abandon marriage for a man and a woman.

And they will command to abstain from meats for they are nature worshippers, or honor nature, the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power..

But Christianity will have less and less of an impact on the world until the nations stop it altogether in favor of evolution, and even the Arab governments will come together with the nations, but the religion of Islam will rebel and then they put them down.

Homosexuality goes against the natural realm, and the spiritual realm, and God said even nature teaches us that it is a shame for a man to have long hair, and that part of the body concerning men was not meant for that purpose by God, and if they do not believe in a God then nature did not intend that part of the body for that purpose and it cannot be denied.

I do not even get in to discussions with them and say nothing so there is no strife unless they ask me about the Bible and homosexuality, and then a quick answer and that is it.

I think preachers should preach against homosexuality at Church and we should just leave them alone after that, and not even deal with them in society, for one thing it will make Christianity seem more better to people, and they have the stance against it but not hassling them.

Let them be for they heard it long enough and know the reasons Christians are against it, and hassling them, and demonstrations only make it worse for Christianity.

Act like we do not care and go about your business homosexuals, but then they would cry about that.

But one thing about gays is they will cry do not be against us for we should have the freedom to be gay especially in America, but then they do not respect the people that are against it like the Church saying you are wrong and mean and accept us.

If a person can be for homosexuality and think they have the right, then people that are against homosexuality should have the right.

But it seems like they try to make the homosexual lifestyle in society as exciting, and flamboyant, and hip, like it is the cool thing to do, and it is weird watching a man act feminine which not even the women act that feminine as they look like they overdo it.

It is like people are insecure, unhappy, depressed, and they become gay thinking this will make me happy, but the young boys are more passive, and the young girls more aggressive than years ago.

Men and women do not get along like they used to and are more at odds than years ago, and love between men and women is dissipating which is what they want.

But it is more of a selfish and arrogant world for the things are there that caused it, so they will act like that so a man and a woman will not get along like they used like society does not get along like they used to.

This world has been fighting over everything that is possible to fight over to the littlest matter to the biggest matter, and in between, for everything that is a difference between people they will fight over it, and now it is time for the men and women to fight and be at odds, and they will be against each other like people that are prejudice against another ethnic group.

It was inevitable, and had to come around eventually.

All you did was tell us what the “flesh” thinks about all this issue.

This is blindness at it’s worst ... come on every time one uses the restroom, they know if they are male or female - it’s just not complicated unless a person is blind.

We need spiritual eyes, ears, hearts and minds to see and fully understand how our Father God wants us to respond to this demonic attack for the souls of the lost.

 

[presidente]

If I were given a hard time and my job was threatened for not calling someone 'zer' who did not identify as male and female, I might tell the individual harrassing me that I am male, but for he purposes of our conversation, I identify as gender 84, and insist on being addressed as gezinkendorfkenzorkenforkendorf instead of 'him' and cry discrimination if they can't pronounce that.

 

[Lafftur]

The thread title doesn't invite discussion.


I volunteer at a youth drop-in centre run by Christians, and many of the teens who come have serious issues in their lives, not the least of which is their sexuality. Most of the kids are of the 95%, a few are homo- or bisexual, and a few who self-identify as the other gender. There are even some who are in the midst of transitioning (as they understand it).

If our purpose is to tell them the truth in love, we had better make sure we get the latter part correct, because we might be the only people who get the chance to tell them the former. There is a way to stand for truth and righteousness that is welcoming and inclusive, and a way that is (perceived as) self-righteous and condemning. To paraphrase Jesus, it ain't the healthy who need the Doctor.

Hello Dino,

First, let me say I highly respect you on CC. Next, let me say I think you are a Grammar English teacher by trade, thirdly, God has given you a great heart for the lost in your area - you are strategically planted. You are a blessing to so many! We all love you!

Lastly, I’d like to share with you my encounter with a transgender.

His name is Matthew but he wants to be Marissa. We are fellow students in a college Drama class and God strategically sat us side by side. Our assignment, read and comment on The Death of a Salesman.

It’s a story of a family facing life and avoiding truth yet, one son lives according to TRUTH and is frustrated with the rest of the family that is in “la-la” land.

When the teacher asked me my thoughts and I told them.. I felt the arrow of God pierce the heart of Matthew.......and said, “Live according to truth, be Matthew.”

 

[UnitedWithChrist]

If I got into a conversation about God with such an individual, I don't know that I would feel obligated to argue with him or her about his or her delusion. There are people who are born with some ambiguous parts, too, so we have to be careful not to confuse them with the seriously emotionally folks that want to get pumped full of hormones and get chopped up by a doctor with a warped sense of medical ethics. There are times when it could be more effective to talk about something else, for example, the Gospel. But I might feel dishonest calling a man with a ribbon in his hair 'her' to support him in his delusion, so that could turn into an argument if such a person wanted it to.

I have read that over 40% of individuals who go through with the full surgery commit suicide.

Right, I agree that the pressing need is for the person to hear about the Gospel and not to address his personal sin directly.

And, I realize that there are a small number of individuals whose sexual organs are ambiguous. It's extremely rare, though.

But it still exists.

 

[presidente]

There are ONLY TWO GENDERS. Male and female.

I heard a biologist give a talk about 'intersex' individuals, which affects about 2% of the population. It was mostly stuff I'd learned about in high school biology. Listening to the talk, I concluded the true number is less than that. Hypermale individuals XYY are not female. It sounds like they have health issues and may often be sterile, but it is a genetic abnormality, not intersex.

There is also a gene that causes the Y gene to activate. I think it was the SRY gene. WIthout that, the Y lies dormant, and the baby in the womb develops into a female. This actually sounded to me like females, and that we have overgeneralized by calling XY what makes one male. It's more complicated than that.

Jesus said that there were some who were eunuchs from their mother's womb. That may be referring to those who come out with both features-- not necessarily all those who fit into the biologists description of 'intersex' however. So it would make sense to me for such an individual not to marry. Of course I was not born that way.

She expressed dismay over some of the bathroom laws that said to go with the gender on one's birth certificate. After listening to the talk, I though having some exception for those born with true genetic abnormalities might be a good add-on for such laws. But I am in agreement with keeping men who pump themselves full of hormones or have the doctor hack them up--or who just 'identify' to sneak a peak-- out of the women's restroom.