Secrets to the Kingdom of God

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homwardbound

homwardbound

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GWH said:
I just read a book indicating that gnosticism is manifested currently by freemasonry.
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Mainly in flesh nature. People are seeking born again in flesh to obey perfectly under Law and not one person can do that, to me I see this at least, thanks to going through under Law first.

Taking this opportunity to thoughts received about logic, so please not hijacking this thread
A side note to you brother, Logical.
You seem to go on logistics
Is it Logical Jesus went willingly to that cross to die first?
Is it logical to heal people without wanting something in return?
Is it Logical, that God himself, did not kill Adam and Eve?
Is it Logical that God saved Noah and his family?
Is it logical I live? Is it Logical you and others live too?
Since we all have sinned and more so after belief to God under Law to do Law, that no one else can do but Son that did it perfectly, the only one to this day.
What's up with that, since I know I am not perfect, want to be yet by me I can't be, nor anyone else of self ever, is that logical? Christ did it, then so can I, is not logical either, once anyone sincerely tries will find out not possible as said in Matthew 19
With man it is impossible, with God all things are possible
So I tis possible to be perfect, the truth in that is to me not of self ever, of god yes in risen Son for sure only to me thanks
I am being illogical
 
Magenta

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Omegatime said:
Moving Post #18 to another thread-thanks
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Heard a program from Science Scripture and Salvation this morning, talking about the rate of mutation in mitochondrial
DNA, and I thought of you, thinking you would perhaps find it of interest if you had not heard such research before...
 
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Magenta said:
Heard a program from Science Scripture and Salvation this morning, talking about the rate of mutation in mitochondrial
DNA, and I thought of you, thinking you would perhaps find it of interest if you had not heard such research before...
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Magenta, think I might be a mutation?? lol

I believe many things which are hidden will be revealed
 
Magenta

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Omegatime said:
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Magenta, think I might be a mutation?? lol

I believe many things which are hidden will be revealed
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Ah! Ha ha, a mutation? No... Just I know you are a young earther and
I thought the program info might interest you if you were unaware of it...

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Magenta said:
Ah! Ha ha, a mutation? No... Just I know you are a young earther and
I thought the program info might interest you if you were unaware of it...

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Not aware of what you speak of. Have a website? And yes, I am a firm young earther.

Israel is God's timepiece
 
Magenta

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Omegatime said:
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Not aware of what you speak of. Have a website? And yes, I am a firm young earther.

Israel is God's timepiece
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The program went by the name of Science Scripture and Salvation and I did look it up; it seems to be part of the icr website (Institute for Creation Research) and they put their content on a number of platforms/providers, including youtube; here is the most recent one I found linked there, but I cannot say for certain it is the same as the one I heard yesterday, though the topic is radio carbon dating...

 
Pilgrimshope

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Mark 4:10 And when he was alone, those who were about him with the twelve asked him concerning the parables. 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables; 12 so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven.” 13 And he said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?

Your thoughts on these scriptures
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“Your thoughts on these scriptures”

its about israel being made blind

Try the contemporary account in Matthew

“And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest at any time they should see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And should understand with their heart, And should be converted, and I should heal them.

But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:10-17‬ ‭


do you see how he’s saying “ this is a fulfillment of Isaiah’s prophecy ? Then it wuoted a prophecy in the ot that tells us what he’s saying . Israel had been rebelling for generations and so

“And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.


Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, and the LORD have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭6:9-

hes speaking of the leaders and religious folk of Israel and the second part there “ how long ?” Is about this

“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-24‬ ‭

Many of the Israelites were blinded made unable to hear Gods word speaking to them in parables was part of that fulfillment to show how blind they were and how thier hearts were far from god .
 
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