Actually, Eve didn't say much in the bible or really do anything besides eating the forbidden fruit. For being cunning she was easily deceived. Not sure where in the bible that you came up with women given a cunning nature from God. Adam and Eve both failed in sin. If we were there we would have sinned too cunning nature or not. I was not aware that the portion of DNA that provides the instinctive genetics to survive was located and identified. God said that they would die that day if they were to disobey Him in the only thing that He deemed prohibitive. My theory is that Adam knew that Eve was going to die and rather than live alone he decided to die with her. It was a noble gesture on his part even though a bit misguided.
Satanic history of feminism Part: I
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picture worth a thousand words, eh? 
i grew up in the men only world which was pretty bad in the rural south, after reading and learning about all aspects of the world throughout my life a feel a bit shamed by it now.
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I guess you should see how the Bible views cunning. Esau was said to be cunning, as he was really an excellent hunter. Men who worked with stones, wood, marble were classified as cunning. Someone who could build boats and other objects Women who worked with jewelry were called cunning. A machinist would be called cunning. Cunning is the skill or skills you were blessed with or a trade in today's lingo. And you are more cunning than a man!!
Umm, no.
The word "cunning" (and variants) appears several times in the Geneva Bible, which was translated in the 16th century, in the KJV, which was translated in the early 17th century, and the Jubilee version, which is based heavily on Tyndale's work from the 16th century. I could not find a modern version that uses "cunning" as you claim.
Please don't argue the meaning of a word in the 21st century with references from over 450 years earlier. The definition I provided is the current meaning.
The word "cunning" (and variants) appears several times in the Geneva Bible, which was translated in the 16th century, in the KJV, which was translated in the early 17th century, and the Jubilee version, which is based heavily on Tyndale's work from the 16th century. I could not find a modern version that uses "cunning" as you claim.
Please don't argue the meaning of a word in the 21st century with references from over 450 years earlier. The definition I provided is the current meaning.
I know very few woman in church who get divorced for any other reason, so I assume you are lying Lanolin.
-- Adulterous and divorced woman rule the church now. They are worshiped, demand to be worshiped, and like you, attempt to blame a man, any man will do, for their sin.
The church has not taken divorce seriously as a whole since about 1950. They do not require, on the whole, a person to repent of the sin of divorce without the one just cause. On the contrary, there is the "support group" Divorce-Care. This group states as their policy that you can come and get help with your "Feelings" about your divorce regardless of why you got a divorce.
The church in the latter half of the twentieth century allowed feminist, communist, false-Jews (people claiming to serve Christ while one their second or third husband or wife) and through these people's victims to these same wolves, workers of iniquity who rule the religion knows and Christianity in America and the world now. In fact, a study showed that 7 out of 10 protestant ministers- including the woman who are apostate in taking the role of elder or preaching to men, commit adultery --- So no,
THE CHURCH THROWS MEN AND CHILDREN ON THE FIRE OF BAAL, JUST AS ISRAEL DID, GET RICH OFF OF SERVING THE FALSE GOD OF WOMAN
Deu 12:31 You shall not do so to Jehovah your God. For every abomination to Jehovah, which He hates, they have done to their gods; even their sons and their daughters they have burned in the fire to their gods. (the fire of divorce, fornication, idolitry, then....)
Mat 5:32 But I say to you that whoever shall put away her husband, except for the cause of fornication, causes him to commit adultery. And whoever shall marry him who is put away commits adultery.
Rom 2:22 The one saying not to commit adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting idols, do you rob temples?
To the Church in Thyatira
Rev 2:18 And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write: The Son of God, He who has His eyes like a flame of fire and His feet like burnished metal, says these things:
Rev 2:19 I know your works and love and service and faith and your patience, and your works; and the last to be more than the first.
Rev 2:20 But I have a few things against you because you allow that woman Jezebel to teach, she saying herself to bea prophetess, and to cause My servants to go astray, and to commit fornication, and to eat idol-sacrifices.
Rev 2:21 And I gave her time that she might repent of her fornication, and she did not repent.
Rev 2:22 Behold, I am throwing her into a bed, and those who commit adultery with her into great affliction, unless they repent of their deeds.
Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death. And all the churches will know that I am He who searches the reins and hearts, and I will give to every one of you according to your works.
Rev 2:24 But to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, and who have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak, I will put on you no other burden.
Rev 2:25 But that which you have, hold fast until I come.
Rev 2:26 And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
Rev 2:27 And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
Rev 2:28 And I will give him the Morning Star.
Rev 2:29 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Scapegoating man, God The Father, Calling His Way, Word "Patriarchal," and the way of the serpent/evil woman/goddess "Good" is a cornerstone lie of Satan at the heart of feminism. "blame man for all, ignore god, we are now not accountable for our deeds having cast our sins on our husbands, fathers, sons; we are the goddess, we need no savior"
Here is what The Word says about each woman's accountability and judgement unless they repent:
16The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (The feminist stops here - it does not say "woman," it does not apply to us. Many times I have read such verses among woman who are strait up evil feminists, just tagging along for the pleasure and profit, ignorant and deveived)
17You shall not pervert the justice due the stranger, nor the fatherless; nor take a widow's clothing as pledge: (Nor blame your men for everything wrong in the world including your own sins)
18But you shall remember that you were a slave in Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you from there: therefore I command you to do this thing. (Not take your family hostage with your feminist laws as a gun saying in may ways, 'please me or else I will destroy this family..)
Here is what The Word says about each woman's accountability and judgement unless they repent:
16The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. (The feminist stops here - it does not say "woman," it does not apply to us. Many times I have read such verses among woman who are strait up evil feminists, just tagging along for the pleasure and profit, ignorant and deveived)
17You shall not pervert the justice due the stranger, nor the fatherless; nor take a widow's clothing as pledge: (Nor blame your men for everything wrong in the world including your own sins)
18But you shall remember that you were a slave in Egypt, and the LORD your God redeemed you from there: therefore I command you to do this thing. (Not take your family hostage with your feminist laws as a gun saying in may ways, 'please me or else I will destroy this family..)
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I believe Adam had looked at that tree every day, from the moment, he was commanded not to eat of it. This tells me Adam was going to sin one way or another. The tree was a spiritual battle and why we see this lesson. The Adversary approached Eve, in my opinion, because Adam had that look he was going to do it. I believe the helpmate, abiding in her natural inherited survival skills, was being more cautious than Adam about the tree. The Adversary chose the one who paid attention.
I already mentioned that once Eve gave Adam the fruit, he did not speak or do anything but bit into it. He was battling, "obeying God to not eat of that tree," but clearly was failing. Must have been interesting from God's point of view, watching Adam becoming tempted by that tree until he just took the fruit and ate of it on his own merit and will.
I see this moment in time, not specifically going as the interpreters wanted. I believe there is a specific reason why the Adversary went to Eve. I believe she was 100% in her natural state of awareness and self, and those instincts were keeping her and Adam from that tree. Our Adversary, however ignorant his sin may have been that cost him everything, still is the wisest creature on earth. This is his kingdom for a very good reason. And going back to Eve, the Adversary always knew who to go to. He still does to this very day.
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You aren't as close to being bright, as you think you are.
As I have already pointed out, cunning meant a skill/in today's language a trade.
That just flew right over your head and something like that can't fly very high
Genesis 25:27
And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.
Exodus 26:31
And thou shalt make a vail of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen of cunning work:
Exodus 28:6
And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work.
Exodus 35:35
Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, and of the cunning workman...
1 Samuel 16:16
Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp:
1 Chronicles 22:15
Moreover there are workmen with thee in abundance, hewers and workers of stone and timber, and all manner of cunning men for every manner of work.
SEE, IT IS SPEAKING OF SPECIAL SKILL OR SOMETHING YOU ARE INHERITED WITH!!
Stop arguing about things you are obviously clueless about!!
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The Adversary proved that Eve could communicate and reason. If you read the transcript between the serpent and Eve, you can see what Eve is saying, is exactly how God taught her. She never questioned God, took His word for Gospel. She never needed to know what that fruit was all about. But she knew Adam wanted to know. She had been the voice of reason to Adam, in my opinion. She was a very good example of what a helpmate should be. Adam wanted that fruit enough, he allowed the serpent to twist a word here or there, where Eve didn't catch on. Then he blamed her and God.. Sounds like a narcissist!!
both men and women are sinful. the human condition is total depravity.
both men and women need a Savior.
no local assembly is perfect, and i know there are some who just let things go out of control. fortunately, i grew up in a local assembly who didn't sweep things under the rug.
recently, at my previous local assembly, there was an extramarital affair happening. the leadership followed the biblical procedure. sadly, the individuals in the affair refused to stop, and they were no longer welcomed in the congregation. both man and woman were at fault. neither was blamed more than the other.
but praise be to God! one of them broke the relationship, repented, and walked away from all of that junk!!!!!
both men and women need a Savior.
no local assembly is perfect, and i know there are some who just let things go out of control. fortunately, i grew up in a local assembly who didn't sweep things under the rug.
recently, at my previous local assembly, there was an extramarital affair happening. the leadership followed the biblical procedure. sadly, the individuals in the affair refused to stop, and they were no longer welcomed in the congregation. both man and woman were at fault. neither was blamed more than the other.
but praise be to God! one of them broke the relationship, repented, and walked away from all of that junk!!!!!
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It ultimately came down to God asking Adam why are you HIDING from me. This leads to, did you eat of the TREE? Adam replies, the woman you gave me ate and then I ate because she twisted my arm and now it's all bruised and needs an ice pack.
Dude was a straight up Narcissist. God made a Narcissist to be the first created human in the lineage of Christ. No wonder it was so easy for Adam to sin. Interesting!!
That is the sickest use of poor logic I have seen in a long time.
You're broadbrushing. Your comments are both inappropriate and factually wrong, and you seem profoundly ignorant of the nature of the church.
DivorceCare.org doesn't judge; apparently you do. I guess you consider yourself to be without sin, and free to cast the first stone.
What is your issue? Feminists? Communists? False Jews? You're lumping several groups together, but you're dumping all your bitterness on women.
Please cite the actual study so we can check it out for ourselves.
Women who take the role of elder or preaching to men are not apostate. They don't, however, conform to your narrow, culturally-ignorant misinterpretation of Scripture.
Maybe yours does. Mine doesn't. Deal with yours first, and kindly stop shouting; it's quite unnecessary.
You're broadbrushing. Your comments are both inappropriate and factually wrong, and you seem profoundly ignorant of the nature of the church.
DivorceCare.org doesn't judge; apparently you do. I guess you consider yourself to be without sin, and free to cast the first stone.
What is your issue? Feminists? Communists? False Jews? You're lumping several groups together, but you're dumping all your bitterness on women.
Please cite the actual study so we can check it out for ourselves.
Women who take the role of elder or preaching to men are not apostate. They don't, however, conform to your narrow, culturally-ignorant misinterpretation of Scripture.
Maybe yours does. Mine doesn't. Deal with yours first, and kindly stop shouting; it's quite unnecessary.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. All true, no blame
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. All true, no blame
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. All true, no blame
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat. All true, no blame