Salvation is for the Whole World

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aa31000

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Cameron143 said:
When Jesus refers to the days of Noah wasn't He referring to people's behavior?
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Have you looked at this world lately? One fact for sure. the religion on earth that has Jesus as its head would never allow the brothers in Christ standing on both sides of the wars of hatred murdering each other as the false religions have allowed-The Rev war, The civil war, ww1, ww2-And have the gaul to pray to the same God on both sides and tell each side God is on their side. The bloodguilt has amassed to the heavens.
 
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aa31000 said:
Have you looked at this world lately? One fact for sure. the religion on earth that has Jesus as its head would never allow the brothers in Christ standing on both sides of the wars of hatred murdering each other as the false religions have allowed-The Rev war, The civil war, ww1, ww2-And have the gaul to pray to the same God on both sides and tell each side God is on their side. The bloodguilt has amassed to the heavens.
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So the evidence you gave says that we have never not seen a time like the days of Noah?
 
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rogerg said:
I think that can agree with most of that. I might question the "made it work for him" part, depending upon how you meant it, because
I think when God saves someone He also changes their inner core being giving them a new spirit, a new heart and a new mind.
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Any can fall-Judas is the prime example--Solomon fell to false god worship. Adam and Eve were perfect-They fell. 1/3 of Gods angels fell. The bible gives a warning- 1Cor 10:12 warns one can fall.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Workers of iniquity was His description of them. I never knew you was the reason given for them to depart.
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Jesus was saying if one works iniquity(practices a sin)no matter what they think they did for him or had love for him, he still never even knew them--that means they were never his.
One of the biggest problems is that blind guides assure others-you are saved, even though they work iniquity--No mortal knows if another is saved. He has never seen a single name written in Gods book of life, he cannot read anothers true heart, he has no clue who will endure until their end. I say run from those saying the words--you are saved.
 
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Magenta said:

Hebrews 13:14
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The point was the words of Jesus are ringing true pointing to these days as the last days--Men going from bad to worse. Disasters in one place after another, kingdom will rise against kingdom--and 2 Timothy 3 is todays world--Few obey Jesus.
 
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aa31000 said:
Jesus was saying if one works iniquity(practices a sin)no matter what they think they did for him or had love for him, he still never even knew them--that means they were never his.
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You are reversing the order because you do not accept that eternal life is tied to the knowledge of God and Jesus as Jesus says in John 17:3.
You believe eternal life is tied to keeping the commandments. But by works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Nehemiah6 asked you earlier if you believe Jesus is God. You chose not to answer or missed the question. Do you believe Jesus is God?
 
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aa31000 said:
The point was the words of Jesus are ringing true pointing to these days as the last days--Men going from bad to worse.
Disasters in one place after another, kingdom will rise against kingdom--and 2 Timothy 3 is todays world--Few obey Jesus.
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It has been the last days for 2,000 years. :)
 
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Cameron143 said:
eternal life is tied to the knowledge of God and Jesus as Jesus says in John 17:3
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John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You
have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
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Cameron143 said:
You are reversing the order because you do not accept that eternal life is tied to the knowledge of God and Jesus as Jesus says in John 17:3.
You believe eternal life is tied to keeping the commandments. But by works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Nehemiah6 asked you earlier if you believe Jesus is God. You chose not to answer or missed the question. Do you believe Jesus is God?
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Do you believe Jesus at John 17:3--He clearly teaches his Father = the one who sent him is the only true God. = the true gospel. Thus today his real teachers on earth teach the same thing.
Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God=1540 pages of utterances. The bible as well teaches proof of ones love is by obeying.
 
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Magenta said:
What are you suggesting Judas fell from? He most certainly was not saved...
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You dont think an apostle appointed by Jesus wasn't in a saved position? Thus you must think you are better or more worthy than an apostle appointed directly by Jesus. All must get saved, but then all must endure until their end in that position. Not all do.
 
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aa31000 said:
You dont think an apostle appointed by Jesus wasn't in a saved position? Thus you must think you are better or more worthy than an apostle appointed directly by Jesus. All must get saved, but then all must endure until their end in that position. Not all do.
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I believe what Jesus said of Judas: that he was unclean, not a believer, a devil, better
had he not been born, and a son of perdition (which means doomed to destruction).


2 Corinthians 7:10
 
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aa31000 said:
Do you believe Jesus at John 17:3--He clearly teaches his Father = the one who sent him is the only true God. = the true gospel. Thus today his real teachers on earth teach the same thing.
Jesus teaches--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God=1540 pages of utterances. The bible as well teaches proof of ones love is by obeying.
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I believe Jesus is God. Do you?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Where do you get the 99% figure from?
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For most people they would know that the 99% stated is not a statistical number derived from a formula, but an expression which relates that the majority is extremely greater than the minority.
 
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