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All is well Dan you can not take what you did not give. You are not adhering to the Teachings of the Lord regarding the Commandments which is your choice but why you spend time giving silly ideas about peanuts and bread I don't know.. what is your intent? You continue in your walk of Faith as shall I.. if you believe the Sabbath is not to be remembered then that is your belief and mine is that it is.
All the accusations about me trying to earn salvation and gonna be told to depart because of my iniquity have no bearing because no man told me I had to keep the Sabbath... it came from love and gratitude of being set free by the Messiah. I'm content and learned from my Master that it was made for me and not me made for Sabbath.. a blessing not a curse. But without the Holy Spirit Baptism I would not of known this... and been scared to pick anything up in case I broke Sabbath and needed to be put to death.
The Teaching of it is lawful to do good stands out.
All the accusations about me trying to earn salvation and gonna be told to depart because of my iniquity have no bearing because no man told me I had to keep the Sabbath... it came from love and gratitude of being set free by the Messiah. I'm content and learned from my Master that it was made for me and not me made for Sabbath.. a blessing not a curse. But without the Holy Spirit Baptism I would not of known this... and been scared to pick anything up in case I broke Sabbath and needed to be put to death.
The Teaching of it is lawful to do good stands out.
Today is Labor day in Canada and in the US where we rest from our works.
So it too is a type or shadow of the Sabbath rest that is in Christ just like in was in the law of Moses in the Old Testament.
Happy Sabbath day. Happy Sabbath day is for every day for those that are in Christ and Christ is in them!
So it too is a type or shadow of the Sabbath rest that is in Christ just like in was in the law of Moses in the Old Testament.
Happy Sabbath day. Happy Sabbath day is for every day for those that are in Christ and Christ is in them!
Originally Posted by valiant
It was the custom of the early church to meet on the first day of the week. But Christians met when they could (they were slaves and had little choice.) . That is why Paul said it is enough that we keep one day to the Lord. Many Jewish Christians met on the Sabbath with the Jews and on the first day of the week with fellow Christians (as Jews they had special privileges).
Later Christians kept the Sabbath for doing good deeds (not resting), and the Sunday as a day or rest.
Maybe God knows better than we do,
Later Christians kept the Sabbath for doing good deeds (not resting), and the Sunday as a day or rest.
Maybe God knows better than we do,
That is WHY God said what He did through Paul in the inspired Scripture - Rom 14.6; etc.
And anyway you don't keep God's Sabbath, with the time line you don't know when it is, It is man-made
How do we think about that command to keep the Sabbath day? I believe that lawlessness is wrong and of the destroyer. When God obviously gave it to you and me to come together in and remember that we all where created by a loving God. Isn't it a precept of God and therefore the Messiah of God to not lean on our own understanding? Also to not forsake his ways but to do the good work of the law without forgetting the more weight of the law, faith, justice, and mercy.? We have wicked hearts that point to the error of the law as if it came from that law. No the death that is brought through way of the perfect and holy law was not its instruction it is sin that seduced us away from the perfect way to live and have life. Have life through the Messiah and know that way to live in grace keeping to the promise of a greater understanding and renewed way of life and the comforter will reveal all truth. We all need more introspective work individually and humble ourselves to submit to the Lord by his way not our thoughts on any subject. The reason I am pleading with the people who disobey The Father's way is because I do believe that Messiah is literally calling on the nation to repent and enter into the Sabbath day together and be healed. Remember the words of the Lord? Remember also to enter into His rest as well. Maybe at first it won't make sense to obey the commandment but when you learn to love it and God for giving it then I believe our understanding of the rest in Messiah will grow.
Friend....we work with what we are given - whenever it is the Sabbath day where we are !!! but we don't INVENT our own as SOME did in Rom 14. Paul never told anyone to CHOOSE their own Sabbath.
We are told to work out our own salvation, be concerned with our own affairs - GOD will take care of the slaves, those who can't.
We are told to work out our own salvation, be concerned with our own affairs - GOD will take care of the slaves, those who can't.
So many people are just focused on REST only. When God gave that commandment in Ex 20v9 He was talking about resting from our own works/labour. God mentioned nothing about it including 'HIS good works in the future or the 'good works we would learn from Him. Learning would already start in Lev 23 when 'assembling for 'study was commanded !
So don't let us be entirely focused on 'resting for ever' that was never meant to happen. We are being re-created unto 'good works....let's concentrate on those for a change !
So don't let us be entirely focused on 'resting for ever' that was never meant to happen. We are being re-created unto 'good works....let's concentrate on those for a change !
Amen, Beta... Now what are you doing up and at 'em so late (or early). It is mid morning here, so good morning from Spain.For me the Sabbath is a wonderful gift from our Father, a revelation and a great teaching..........I suppose it is much more than these mere descriptive , inadequate words..
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Forgive my hogging the thread but I seem to be on a bit of a holy babble.
Thinking about the last I posted, I realize just how ridiculous so-called brethren are to think anyone who obeys the laws as now explained by Yeshua is "under the law" again, ridiculous.
First of all, when we read God's wisdom in th e laws remaining after the enlightening of Yeshua, we no longer see the remnat as laws in stone but they are wisdom and truth.
If you think it is a lw to honor God.........you do not believe or know Him.
If you think it is a law not to steal...you do not believe or know Him.
If honoring your parenst must be a law for anyone, that anyone is very shallow, and do not com back with your parents were cruel or neglectful, you are talking to someone who has expereienced much worse, and I love my parents dearly, realizing that even if I have been justified, they had problems just as you and I.... so never say to hoor our parents is a law.
This holds true not only for the Ten cmmandments but for all the remain laws of good conduct......laws? are you crazy? If you still think of being Like Yeshua is law, then you know nothing in the Holy Spirit., but I will give you this, you are probably very religious.
Thinking about the last I posted, I realize just how ridiculous so-called brethren are to think anyone who obeys the laws as now explained by Yeshua is "under the law" again, ridiculous.
First of all, when we read God's wisdom in th e laws remaining after the enlightening of Yeshua, we no longer see the remnat as laws in stone but they are wisdom and truth.
If you think it is a lw to honor God.........you do not believe or know Him.
If you think it is a law not to steal...you do not believe or know Him.
If honoring your parenst must be a law for anyone, that anyone is very shallow, and do not com back with your parents were cruel or neglectful, you are talking to someone who has expereienced much worse, and I love my parents dearly, realizing that even if I have been justified, they had problems just as you and I.... so never say to hoor our parents is a law.
This holds true not only for the Ten cmmandments but for all the remain laws of good conduct......laws? are you crazy? If you still think of being Like Yeshua is law, then you know nothing in the Holy Spirit., but I will give you this, you are probably very religious.