Revelation 20 and the 1000 years

[garee]

Using the Pharisee physical kingdom interpretation cannot prove your point.

We must be careful how we hear what the Spirit who lives in us is saying to us. we have that treasure or power to understand knowing it is not of us.

That reminded me of law of the Pharisees with Sadducee called a law of the fathers (oral traditions of men) .Two opposing denomination that came as one to try and prove the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) was heresy and and their own private interpretation the law men must follow as if the kingdom did come by looking at the temporal.

Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit turned it right side up .

For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law.Acts24: 5-6

Above judged according to our law. The law of the fathers not the law of God, as it is written .They as on many occasion turn things upside down as if inspired earthly and not heavenly as doctrine of God that fall like rain

Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts24: 13-24

Rather than having the fathers as God.(the law of the fathers) . Christ defending his faith again turned it as it is written right side up. The Pharisees with Sadducee shot themselves in the foot as false apostles, false messengers of another gospel .

 

[John146]

The gospel preached to the Gentiles. Satan bound by the gospel.

“And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Revelation 20:1–3 (KJV 1900)

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Satan rallies the unbelievers from around the world against Israel the church.

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” Revelation 20:7–10 (KJV 1900)

1000 years? A sketch would be;

The angel = Greek for messenger

the chain = the message (gospel); The gospel sent to the whole world.

1000 years are Satan's binding. When they end Satan is loosed. So the 1000 years are not the kingdom. When they end, Satan is loosed, and he attacks the kingdom.

Satan loosed = the Post Christian era (we now live in = imminent return of Christ) the gospel message falls on deaf ears, the world assails the Church from all quarters ushering in the end.

When did the binding happen?

The binding happened in Christ's ministry. This includes preaching the gospel to all nations fulfilling God's promise to Abraham.

“Jesus said, “This voice has not come for my benefit but for yours. Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out.” (John 12:30–31)

So in essence, Revelation 20 is a panorama of the entire New Covenant era. Not a physical kingdom of the future.

How could Satan be bound and at the same time He hinders the preaching of the gospel?

 

[John146]

The kingdom is of faith, not sight. The physical kingdom is a sinful doctrine of the Pharisees. Jesus refuted it many times in the gospels. But only the born again can see it. If you are born again, try to see it for yourself.

Jesus didn’t rebuke, but rather told them not to worry about the physical kingdom. This restoration of the physical kingdom of Israel was exactly what they were looking forward to and will take place as the Lord teaches.

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

 

[garee]

How could Satan be bound and at the same time He hinders the preaching of the gospel?

The key the gospel binds the lies coming from the father of lies as it loosens His understanding and forms faith in the beleiuver. its two fold like many of the gifts. .

The father of lies is bound by as it is written the gospel key .With it representing the unseen faith of the glory of God. It is being hid and will be revealed fully in the new heavens and earth.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

In Mathew 4 when Satan tried to sell all the kingdoms of the world along with all the glory .He simply would not buy the lie as a prophet the father gave him words . . . as it is written The liar disappeared.

 

[Dave-L]

Jesus didn’t rebuke, but rather told them not to worry about the physical kingdom. This restoration of the physical kingdom of Israel was exactly what they were looking forward to and will take place as the Lord teaches.

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

This only proves how much they didn't understand at this point. By Paul's time, he preached the Kingdom of God too. And it was never a physical kingdom in the gospels, always spiritual.

“When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.” John 6:15 (KJV 1900)

 

[Dave-L]

How could Satan be bound and at the same time He hinders the preaching of the gospel?

You are adding to Revelation if you say Satan's binding consists of anything more than not deceiving the nations. The gospel binds him from deceiving them. (God's elect from among the gentiles). God uses him every day to unleash his four sore judgements on humanity.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

The metaphor 144,000 represent the chaste virgin bride of Christ the whole church. She is made up of all the nations of the world beginning w with Abel the first recorded martyr.

The Kingdom of God will be a physical Kingdom .But not physical here under the Sun . Corruption does not put on the incorruptible. .No rebuilds or reconditioned .New rudiments. And the 144,000 according to the signified interpretation of the book of Revelation is a unknown just as the 1000 years. We are not of the number that walk after what the eyes see .The temporal.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:

faith= unseen eternal (no counting)
Sight = 1 2 3 4 5 6 etc

No count downs to him who comes as a thief in the night on the last day .

No, it is not a metaphor nor a symbol, it is written plainly.

The Kingdom of God which will reign for eternity is an actual kingdom. The New Jerusalem is an actual physical city. We will be resurrected into new bodies, but they will be in a state of perfection. It's merely that all these things of God are Perfect. In the Apocalypse the Imperfect will be destroyed and the Perfect will supplant it. The mortal must put on immortality.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

The kingdom is of faith, not sight. The physical kingdom is a sinful doctrine of the Pharisees. Jesus refuted it many times in the gospels. But only the born again can see it. If you are born again, try to see it for yourself.

No, Jesus will physically reign over the Perfect Kingdom of God. Jesus is even the Way, he is a living example of what to expect. Jesus is right now alive and in his glorified Perfect body. It is a physical body, as we see when apostle Thomas touches his wounds, but it is in a state of glory. Lord Jesus is himself the best proof though the Pharisees surely did deny his resurrection with feeble lies. The Pharisees believed that the Kingdom will be of this earth, they thought someone will arise and lead the earthly Israel, so you're not totally wrong, but you must understand that the Kingdom of God, though it is a real kingdom, it is not of this Imperfect and corrupt world, but it will supplant and destroy this corrupt world.

 

[jb]

...the Pharisees had a veil over their eyes when reading the OT...

You wear the same veil as the Pharisees, for what you've been writing is sheer fiction!

 

[Jackson123]

The gospel preached to the Gentiles. Satan bound by the gospel.

“And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.” Revelation 20:1–3 (KJV 1900)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Satan rallies the unbelievers from around the world against Israel the church.

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” Revelation 20:7–10 (KJV 1900)

1000 years? A sketch would be;

The angel = Greek for messenger

the chain = the message (gospel); The gospel sent to the whole world.

1000 years are Satan's binding. When they end Satan is loosed. So the 1000 years are not the kingdom. When they end, Satan is loosed, and he attacks the kingdom.

Satan loosed = the Post Christian era (we now live in = imminent return of Christ) the gospel message falls on deaf ears, the world assails the Church from all quarters ushering in the end.

When did the binding happen?

The binding happened in Christ's ministry. This includes preaching the gospel to all nations fulfilling God's promise to Abraham.

“Jesus said, “This voice has not come for my benefit but for yours. Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out.” (John 12:30–31)

So in essence, Revelation 20 is a panorama of the entire New Covenant era. Not a physical kingdom of the future.

I don't think gospel Bind satan for 1000 years.
If so why satan decieve nations now

after 1000 years satan lose is that mean No gospel anymore?

 

[Dave-L]

I don't think gospel Bind satan for 1000 years.
If so why satan decieve nations now

after 1000 years satan lose is that mean No gospel anymore?

I said in the OP, Satan is now loosed and the church under attack.

 

[Dave-L]

You wear the same veil as the Pharisees, for what you've been writing is sheer fiction!

You believe as they do and I'm the one with the veil over my eyes?

 

[Dave-L]

No, Jesus will physically reign over the Perfect Kingdom of God. Jesus is even the Way, he is a living example of what to expect. Jesus is right now alive and in his glorified Perfect body. It is a physical body, as we see when apostle Thomas touches his wounds, but it is in a state of glory. Lord Jesus is himself the best proof though the Pharisees surely did deny his resurrection with feeble lies. The Pharisees believed that the Kingdom will be of this earth, they thought someone will arise and lead the earthly Israel, so you're not totally wrong, but you must understand that the Kingdom of God, though it is a real kingdom, it is not of this Imperfect and corrupt world, but it will supplant and destroy this corrupt world.

Only the born again can see it, but Jesus has been ruling on David's throne since God raised him from the dead. If you are truly born again, you can see it through scripture.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

Only the born again can see it, but Jesus has been ruling on David's throne since God raised him from the dead. If you are truly born again, you can see it through scripture.

I would agree to that, perhaps even I'd argue he took political control of the throne of David at the crucifixion as per the cross reading KING OF THE JEWS.

Though for some reason I can't help but also be reminded of when Jesus asks about in the Psalms; "if David calls him Lord; how can he be his son?" (paraphrase from memory.) This makes me think perhaps just like when Jesus said that "before Abraham was I AM", that Jesus has always ruled as the King of Kings and the living Word of God.

 

[Journeyman]

Jesus has always ruled on earth as the living Word. Just because people spit on him doesn't mean he isn't ruling over them,

The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. Psa.103.8

 

[Jackson123]

I said in the OP, Satan is now loosed and the church under attack.

When satan bind?
You say satan lose now, When It start lose?

 

[Dave-L]

When satan bind?
You say satan lose now, When It start lose?

Read the OP slowly.

 

[garee]

No, it is not a metaphor nor a symbol, it is written plainly.

The Kingdom of God which will reign for eternity is an actual kingdom. The New Jerusalem is an actual physical city. We will be resurrected into new bodies, but they will be in a state of perfection. It's merely that all these things of God are Perfect. In the Apocalypse the Imperfect will be destroyed and the Perfect will supplant it. The mortal must put on immortality.

Yes written plainly understood spiritually .Faith to faith. Face to face.

The eternal kingdom no eye has seen .

The New Jerusalem is an actual physical city not made up with the corruptible dead rudiments of this world . What its element as rudiments will be like no man knows. Carbon based? .Simply not flesh and blood, corrupted rudiments.

 

[Jackson123]

I said in the OP, Satan is now loosed and the church under attack.

You say gospel bind satan, and satan lose now

Is there No gospel oN earth anymore?

Gospel bind satan. Mean as long as there is gospel oN earth, satan Will be bind isn't It?

 

[Dave-L]

You say gospel bind satan, and satan lose now

Is there No gospel oN earth anymore?

Gospel bind satan. Mean as long as there is gospel oN earth, satan Will be bind isn't It?

Try to grasp the OP. Read it slowly. It answers all your questions.