Reading the bible literally or figuratively... that is the question

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Inquisitor

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Physical Israel. That's one I've never heard anyone bring up before, although I have thought of it a few times. Because there are spiritual and national Israel, and for a long time national Israel was a scattered population. But one thing I'd be willing to put money on is that the geographical bounds and extents of Israel used to be a lot bigger than they are today. At the peak of the Kingdom's tenure, just before the split between Ahab and Jehosophat, I'll wager that the place as a place was much much larger than the Israelite state today.
Or was Israel the greatest area when King David ruled?
 

Inquisitor

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God's been protecting those people ever since they were brought back to their land just like He promised. Your opinion obviously doesn't matter to God. :)

Did God protect Israel during the holocaust?

The Jews have been persecuted by everyone including the Christian church.

Modern Israel has been struggling to survive since they returned to Jerusalem.

They are surrounded by Muslim countries that want to exterminate them.
 

Karlon

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I am not sure which angle you are coming at this from. Earth was formless and void after it was created.
that's phunnneee because after i wrote it i told myself "that isn't clear". sometimes the message we want to write doesn't come out right! right? hahaha what you are saying is what i mean so we're on the same page.
 

Magenta

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The text simply states that there was creative events, before the announcement of the first day.

It takes daytime and night time for the first day to occur.

The earth was definitely formless and void before there was light.

There was darkness over the depths before there was light.

Magenta, it is a simple text.
Then God said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from
the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day”.


There was both darkness and light on the first day of creation, after the heavens and earth were created.

Those creative events happened on the first day.
 

cv5

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Then God said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from
the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day”.


There was both darkness and light on the first day of creation, after the heavens and earth were created.

Those creative events happened on the first day.
Gen 1:6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

A ZPE-magnetic/dielectric plasma universe Z-pinch model fits creation week.......exceptionally well. I would say perfectly.
Is that the way God conducted the business of creation business? We will find out eventually.
 

Magenta

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i'm not an artist, just someone who appreciates the fact some of you are. isn't it often the imperfections which add to the beauty?
There will always be imperfections, this is true, and I have to admit there are times
I must just stop working on a panel trying to perfect it, because it can be a seemingly
endless pursuit. But my eye is trained in these matters, according to my work history
of well over forty years working in the photofinishing industry. I have a story to tell
along these lines
.:D. I was working at my second lab job, my first after leaving my
home province for the west coast. One day my boss showed a picture to me, and
asked me what I would do to improve it. I said I would do nothing to it except to
"spot" the dust in the lower right corner, which my eye had immediately detected.
He was like, what? And took a look at the picture himself, for he had not even seen that.
.:giggle:

However, when a mistake is made due to my own clumsiness and lack of attention? Aargh!!!!
 

Karlon

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Then God said, ‘Let there be light’; and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from
the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day”.


There was both darkness and light on the first day of creation, after the heavens and earth were created.

Those creative events happened on the first day.
i'm going to add to all this the famous Christian lesson: "if you don't understand something, trust it"!!!