Prophecy, it’s not what most think.

CS1 · May 23, 2020

don't be rude ok, you have been answered respectfully and some disagree. There are many of those here who have more than a AA/BA on this site. many have said very clearly from the word of God

What they believe the context of :

Destroy this temple I will build it in three days
See these stones not one shall be left on another
Daniel Abomination of desolation
Matthew 24 Parallel with daniel
the Foretelling and Forth telling of Prophecy
the physical site of the temple
the symbolic statement of Jesus and the temple being his body

Dave-L · May 23, 2020

CS1 said:

DO you think I'm competing for brains when I say I graduated HS and had 2 years of college? I only answered Oyster's question about not trusting mental health professionals without degrees. My career is the Sermon on the Mount which I gave up College and career for.

Dave-L · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

I'm not claiming to be a mental health pro.

biker · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

I have explained specifically what I do before.

You are rebellious. Got a chip on your shoulder. Your posts scream loud and clear where you lack at.

Yahshua · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

Another way to look at it is...

What is a kingdom but the reign of its king? Wherever a king is so goes his kingdom, as he is its government.

The Messiah, their prophesied king, was standing right in front of them...physically...but they didn't recognize Him. The kingdom was physically their in full authority on earth.

The physically sick were truly healed...

The physically dead were truly raised...

Other physical signs like real water turning to wine, real bread was multiplied, the physical weather obeyed Him, a life-long blind man could see, etc, all physically happened.

The King also had full authority in heaven (spiritual) by casting out spiritual demons, and forgiving sins.

All authority has been given to Him in heaven (spiritual) and on earth (physical). The Messiah is the kingdom.

...So the kingdom had come and was in their midst, but the pharisees were blinded to Him because of the veil of His flesh (i.e. being a humble, sweaty, carpenter). But He said there would be those who wouldn't taste death until they saw Him in His kingdom...so the very next scene we're given is the transfiguration where the Messiah is displayed shining in glory along with Moses and Elijah for Peter, James and John to witness.

That's the promised kingdom we're waiting for; for that vision to be fulfilled in full glory. No sun will be needed and no night will be experienced. Believers will be walking, talking burning bushes.

Daniel 12:3
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Matthew 13:43
Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Exodus 34:29-30
29 Now it was so, when Moses came down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the Testimony were in Moses’ hand when he came down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone while he talked with Him. 30 So when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him.

But the kingdom suffered violence and the violent to [Him] by force...and then crucified Him.

CS1 · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

and you are not the only one who has done so or will be. FYI the Sermon on the Mount is to all, not just you. If you are not competing for brains, why speak about one's education? mental health is spoken in the word of God did you know that?

CS1 · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

no one is

Dave-L · May 23, 2020

CS1 said:

Don't pros have degrees?

Dave-L · May 23, 2020

CS1 said:

So if I quit college and live the Sermon on the mount as a career, that's my career. If you go to college picking up a career, you are not living the Sermon on the Mount. it's a sideline?

Dave-L · May 23, 2020

biker said:

You are the one claiming exclusive rights to understanding the scripture because you claim to read Hebrew.

Truth7t7 · May 23, 2020

garee said:

I think when Jesus stepped out of it (abomination) in Mathew 23 leaving it desolate from deceiving all the nations of the world. The propmised reformation came. graves were opened. the promised glory . It was fulfilled Mathew 23 when he slammed the ugly door. He shook the corrupted dust of his feet and moved to the mountain .

That reformation triggered a great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Never again could the father of lies deceive all the nations they must seek the flesh of one. that is under the letter of the law "death". Satan's the murderer form the beginning (You shall not die!) accusing false power. Cast into a bottomless time les pit. Never to deceive all the nations.

We know no man after the flesh. God alone looks into the hearts of all.

Once again, 70AD fulfillment yes/no?

1.) Do you believe Matthew 24:15 was fulfilled in 70AD Daniels Abomination?

2.) Do you believe Matthew 24:21 was fulfilled in 70AD?

Truth7t7 · May 23, 2020

notuptome said:

I'm new to the forums, who are the preterist?
I fully agree preterism is nonsense and deception.

Truth7t7 · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

I agree 100% Dave, exactly what I have been watching in thee exchange

CS1 · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

not all and what is a Pro?

Truth7t7 · May 23, 2020

biker said:

I was sorta thinking you fit the description above, and I'm new to the forum.

CS1 · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

FYI living the " Sermon on the Mount." is not a career. FYI Jesus went to school up until the age of possibly 24, as most Jewish males did during that day. WE are to live the Sermon on the Mount each day and guess what, You can have a career by which you live it at also.

You are needing to be more humble. And work on a teachable spirit. You know nothing of the sideline. You attack what you could not do. I think you just gave up on it. FYI many have done so and went back and finished it.

Here is something for you, Learning is a life long process. Diplomas, degrees, certification, and learning. It will happen until you take your last breath. Sermon on the Mount> and what Jesus said is not a check this box and be done it is not a career it is a spiritual walk and lifestyle that you do at home, at work, at school, in your relationship with people.

You have an unfulfilled spirit because you are driven by Legalism not love. it makes you prideful and angry. You need to rethink your biblical understanding.

preacher4truth · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

Yes, reminds me of Job 12:2.

TheDivineWatermark · May 23, 2020

Speaking of the Sermon on the Mount...

Sermon on the Mount:

Matthew 5:5 -

"Blessed are the meek, for they will [future tense] inherit the earth." [/or, the land.]

[...from Psalm 37 - "8 Refrain from anger and abandon wrath;

do not fret—it can only bring harm.

9 For the evildoers will be cut off,

but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land. [or, the earth]

10 Yet a little while, and the wicked will be no more;

though you look for them, they will not be found. [<--this phrase (bold) is similar to that which is in 2Pet3:10 - the Greek word "G2147 - heurethēsetai / heuriskó - 'I find, learn, discover, especially after searching'" - https://biblehub.com/greek/2147.htm ; https://biblehub.com/text/2_peter/3-10.htm (in the negative also in 2Pet3:10 - "not will be found [G2147]")]

11 But the meek will inherit the land b [b--or, the earth]

and delight in abundant prosperity.]

TheDivineWatermark · May 23, 2020

^ This seems to be parallel with Matt13:24,30,39,40,49-50, esp. v.30 (which, by the way, is in the EXACT OPPOSITE SEQUENCE from that which takes place at "our Rapture")... and where their Q of Him in Matt24:3 was BASED ON what He had ALREADY spoken to them about PREVIOUSLY [in this Mt13] and His response to them consists of both chpts Matt24 and Matt25 (ALL of which is *far-future* from when spoken/written... *far-future* to them... and *future* even to us presently... and *future* even to "our Rapture" event [that is, the CONTEXT of the Olivet Discourse is NOT covering the Subject of "our Rapture," anywhere in it]).

tourist · May 23, 2020

Dave-L said:

See what, exactly Dave? Yes, I am born again and have been for 50 years. I don't see squat in regards to this kingdom. About that 70 weeks, only 69 weeks have been fulfilled. The last week will occur in the end-time events and as such, there has been no kingdom yet established, either physical, spiritual, or both.

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