PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR
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It was predestined before, that later, as predestined by Him, we will believe, and be in Him, in whom we have prior to this been predestined by Him.
Order of events:
1. He predestines
2. We believe as it was predestined by Him.
3. We are saved as it was predestined by Him.
4. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit as it was predestined by Him.
All the glory to God!
Order of events:
1. He predestines
2. We believe as it was predestined by Him.
3. We are saved as it was predestined by Him.
4. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit as it was predestined by Him.
All the glory to God!
Predestined to what please ? Which verse says it happened before we believed . Which is Calvinism , i realise that and I know which philosophy its origin is in . But from the scriptures what are we predestined to ? It doesn't say ' to be converted before we born '
Especially in light of .Eph 2
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Especially in light of .Eph 2
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Not Calvinism, Paulinism (in the order of events below, predestined no. 1, believe no. 4):
Ephesians 1 (ESV)
11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
From the grammar, the order of events in a saved persons life:
1. predestined
2. obtained an inheritance
3. you heard the word of truth
4. believed in him
5. sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Ephesians 1 (ESV)
11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, 12 so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. 13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
From the grammar, the order of events in a saved persons life:
1. predestined
2. obtained an inheritance
3. you heard the word of truth
4. believed in him
5. sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
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If this were true, then all would be predestined to believe, since God wants ALL to come to repentance and salvation through faith in Christ.
Predestination in Scripture means that those who will believe are predestined to be perfected and glorified (Romans 8:29,30). That is the meaning of being "conformed to the image of His Son". But all may believe since the Gospel is for all mankind. But all will not obey the Gospel (Rom 10:16).
Predestination in Scripture means that those who will believe are predestined to be perfected and glorified (Romans 8:29,30). That is the meaning of being "conformed to the image of His Son". But all may believe since the Gospel is for all mankind. But all will not obey the Gospel (Rom 10:16).
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¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
So looking at verse 14 when is the inheritance? Seeing as the Holy Spirit is the gurantee of it ?
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
So looking at verse 14 when is the inheritance? Seeing as the Holy Spirit is the gurantee of it ?
If God wanted all to believe, all would believe, God is almighty. He bestows his grace of salvation on whom he pleases.
2 Thessalonians 2 (ESV)
13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. 14 To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Thessalonians 2 (ESV)
13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. 14 To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
That means Christ Yeshua is the scapegoat for the sins of the whole world, and that is true.
The scapegoat, as defined in the Book of Leviticus, is a propitiation.
( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propitiation )
The scapegoat, as defined in the Book of Leviticus, is a propitiation.
( https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/propitiation )
You are confusing the almightiness of God with His own conditions for salvation. God compels no one to be saved, but He does present the consequences of unbelief to all (Mark 16:15,16).
Even though God desires the salvation of all mankind (1 Tim 2:4), He will not save anyone who fails to obey the Gospel, which is called "the obedience of faith" (Rom 16:25,26). Which means (1) repentance towards God and (2) faith towards our Lord Jesus Christ.
And that is exactly why Paul said this is Acts 20:18-21:
18 And when they were come to him, he [Paul] said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons,
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
God predestines no one for salvation or damnation. And that is why these words of Paul are critical to understanding how sinners are saved by grace through faith.
Even though God desires the salvation of all mankind (1 Tim 2:4), He will not save anyone who fails to obey the Gospel, which is called "the obedience of faith" (Rom 16:25,26). Which means (1) repentance towards God and (2) faith towards our Lord Jesus Christ.
And that is exactly why Paul said this is Acts 20:18-21:
18 And when they were come to him, he [Paul] said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons,
19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house,
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
God predestines no one for salvation or damnation. And that is why these words of Paul are critical to understanding how sinners are saved by grace through faith.
Romans 11 (ESV)
5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. 7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day."