You must have not read the story of David, unless you leaning on the mistakes David made only. Psalm 19: 7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. 8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. 9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: The judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. written by king David
Our new relationship to the law.
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Wow!...Paul could of use your help in his struggles and he kept the Laws, statues and Judgements. Let's take a look in Roman 7: 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
I'm rolling with Paul here, we need the Laws (Commandment) to deal with this flesh. We not like you, we have to fight this good fight of faith, like Paul says in 1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
I'm rolling with Paul here, we need the Laws (Commandment) to deal with this flesh. We not like you, we have to fight this good fight of faith, like Paul says in 1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
Psa 119:29, Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously.
You are mainly preaching tp the choir, friend. I have been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
However, I would say that there is no condemnation for the believer who walks according to the Spirit (Romans 8:1). Because he is not under the law (Romans 6:14), is dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and is delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.
While as concerning obedience, the believer in Christ has the law written on his heart and mind (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6) and is under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21); which means that he is obedient to it even though he would not be condemned for disobedience.
However, I would say that there is no condemnation for the believer who walks according to the Spirit (Romans 8:1). Because he is not under the law (Romans 6:14), is dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and is delivered from the law (Romans 7:6) as concerning condemnation.
While as concerning obedience, the believer in Christ has the law written on his heart and mind (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10; Romans 5:5; 1 John 2:3-6) and is under the law to Christ (1 Corinthians 9:21); which means that he is obedient to it even though he would not be condemned for disobedience.
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I have the righteousness of Christ in me
The law is for the sinner.
The law can not teach me anymore. I look to the law of love. For only in it will I f=grow in righteousness and grace. There is only death and cursing in the law of moses. Thats why it is called the minister of death
Again, you need to change your name my friend.
I have the righteousness of Christ in me
The law is for the sinner.
The law can not teach me anymore. I look to the law of love. For only in it will I f=grow in righteousness and grace. There is only death and cursing in the law of moses. Thats why it is called the minister of death
Again, you need to change your name my friend.
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Because God requires that Christians obey the civil authorities. Cops are doing their job. If people don't like it, stay home! Why do you think that it is okay to disobey God and rebel against the authorities that He puts in place? Why do you imagine that it is the police who make the laws? They enforce the law, they do not make it. When I see Jesus inciting riots against Roman rule or Paul inciting riots and encouraging others to do so, I might change my mind. God took care of Israel when Egypt turned against them. God commanded Israel to submit to the rule of Babylon. Israel's rebellion against Rome led to the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem first, and then the nation. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. It cost Saul his kingship. Christians who support the rebellious need to be real careful. If you think that pleases God, think again.
This is how it goes: Galatians 2:
…18If I rebuild what I have already torn down, I prove myself to be a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the law so that I might live to God. 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.…
By faith, not by law. It's not even my faith. It is the faith of the Son of God.
…18If I rebuild what I have already torn down, I prove myself to be a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the law so that I might live to God. 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.…
By faith, not by law. It's not even my faith. It is the faith of the Son of God.
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Rolling with Paul? This is what he had to say: Galatians 2: …18If I rebuild what I have already torn down, I prove myself to be a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the law so that I might live to God. 20I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.…
You should try reading Romans 8.
You should try reading Romans 8.
Is God more interested in us keeping the law or more interested in us as his kids?
What is more important to him?
Us or the law?
These may seem weird questions to ask but where is the relationship?
Is it with the law or God?
We know God and David had a relationship, afterall he was a man after Gods heart.
God said that, yet we know that under the law David should have been put to death.
To me God is more interested in us as his kids.
He knows our weaknesses, he knows we cannot do it without him, he knows we cannot be saved without the sacrifice that Jesus paid for us.
David comes to mind as well to for the above paragraph.
Yet he knows we are broken, hurting people who struggle to do good and obey him.
But surely this is good?
Yes of course it is but there is a but.
That but is that we need to realise that we are weak, we need help and to be totally honest with him and know that he gets us and is willing to help us in our weaknesses.
As David said
Psalms 51:16-17
16 For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it;
You do not delight in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart—
These, O God, You will not despise.
That is the relationship God wants.
He is a loving Father who just wants relationship and it his him and him only who works in us to be like him.
That then is our relationship to the royal law.
What is more important to him?
Us or the law?
These may seem weird questions to ask but where is the relationship?
Is it with the law or God?
We know God and David had a relationship, afterall he was a man after Gods heart.
God said that, yet we know that under the law David should have been put to death.
To me God is more interested in us as his kids.
He knows our weaknesses, he knows we cannot do it without him, he knows we cannot be saved without the sacrifice that Jesus paid for us.
David comes to mind as well to for the above paragraph.
Yet he knows we are broken, hurting people who struggle to do good and obey him.
But surely this is good?
Yes of course it is but there is a but.
That but is that we need to realise that we are weak, we need help and to be totally honest with him and know that he gets us and is willing to help us in our weaknesses.
As David said
Psalms 51:16-17
16 For You do not desire sacrifice, or else I would give it;
You do not delight in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit,
A broken and a contrite heart—
These, O God, You will not despise.
That is the relationship God wants.
He is a loving Father who just wants relationship and it his him and him only who works in us to be like him.
That then is our relationship to the royal law.
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