Oneness or trinity, Is Jesus God or man?

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No trinity = no grasp of truth= no true Christ = no salvation for the hardcore antitrinitarian. (The ignorant might be saved.)
There it is. That same posting style. Delusion is returning again and again after being asked to leave again and again.

You aren't smart or clever enough to offer any real insight as your eyes are dimmed and ears are blocked by believing your friend Satan's lies.
A Christian is by definition a follower of Christ and Christ often revealed that he is the son of YAHWEH.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html
 
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There it is. That same posting style. Delusion is returning again and again after being asked to leave again and again.

You aren't smart or clever enough to offer any real insight as your eyes are dimmed and ears are blocked by believing your friend Satan's lies.
A Christian is by definition a follower of Christ and Christ often revealed that he is the son of YAHWEH.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html
You can't discern it so you say it doesn't exist. You cannot prove something does not exist, only your folly in saying it doesn't
 
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GOD said Jesus is His son. Jesus said he is GOD's son.
None of you are your children or your parents.
This is obviously above your understanding.
God's son = God. Just like a human son = human.
 
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God the Father...in scriptures...
2Pe 1:17 KJV For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

But where in the scriptures can you find God the Son...
If you cannot find it...what does that mean. Heresy
It can be found, it was shown to you directly. Same dance, same old heresy.
 
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kaylagrl

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Hi, watcher2013.
I've only been a Christian about 5 years and I'm constantly astounded at how much false doctrine the established churches push!
They all have Bibles but can't use them
This CC is not much better as the posts we deal with on this thread show.
No matter how we say read the entire passage to get the context they just parrot beliefs put in their head as children and it's practically impossible to correct them.
I looked at a forum for people who leave the JWs and the crazy doctrines they have had to swallow is amazing - but it has the effect of making them hate GOD, Jesus and the Bible so their final state is worse than being a JW!

We read the Bible here for ourselves. The trinity is clear in the Bible. Verse after verse has debunked this heresy. It has nothing to do with what the church teaches. The church I attend agree with what the Word says. And that's what I agree with. Name the church YOU and your buddy attend. Bet either of you won't.
 
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kaylagrl

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So you pray to Jesus? Are you a Muslim?
Christians don't pray TO JESUS.
No wonder Satan has collected 95% of the people on Earth into his camp.
What church do you attend? Too afraid to claim it? Christianity's main linch pin is that Jesus is God, He is deity, He died and rose again. You are spreading heresy, one that you would have been stoned for in NT times.
 
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My Bible and every other Christian Bible ever printed says Jesus is the son of GOD YAHWEH.
What does your bible say Jesus is?
Nope, it doesn't say just that, it says Jesus is God. What you're reading, no one knows.
 
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kaylagrl

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My Christian sect upsets you pagans?
that's a sign of the End Times.
Do tell, what is your sect? So we can google it and read up on it.
 
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kaylagrl

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There it is. That same posting style. Delusion is returning again and again after being asked to leave again and again.

You aren't smart or clever enough to offer any real insight as your eyes are dimmed and ears are blocked by believing your friend Satan's lies.
A Christian is by definition a follower of Christ and Christ often revealed that he is the son of YAHWEH.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/trinity/trinity-history.html

Asked to leave by whom? You! rofl. I don't think so bub. Anyone is free to post their views here. So far, even you with your heresy views. Christians have believed and afirmed that Jesus is God since He died on the cross. You are a little late in the game with your POV.
 

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Jesus is God, if you deny that you are not a Christian, period.
Amen. Unfortunately so many don't actually get that.
Though at this point in their postings, I don't believe Dave L expects us to take them seriously. Everything they post is contrary to the actual scriptures.
 

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Asked to leave by whom? You! rofl. I don't think so bub. Anyone is free to post their views here. So far, even you with your heresy views. Christians have believed and afirmed that Jesus is God since He died on the cross. You are a little late in the game with your POV.
That was my post they published under their name. By , asked to leave, I meant, banned. Again and again. If you notice? The posting style of that one and a few others here are the same as those we don't read here anymore? Same insistence the Bible says something that isn't there. Same hate filled sarcasm when they're made aware Christians that read the scriptures know this and then point it out.
 
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Odd since that is all that you've posted throughout.
Don't mock God. Don't mock His word. You don't believe it now however, come the judgment you'll know how wrong you were. And that regret shall last a lifetime.
Some of the Scripture proof of the Trinity;

1. There is only one God (e.g., Rom. 3:30)

2. The Father is God (e.g., John 6:27)

3. Jesus the Son is God (e.g., John 20:28; Rom. 9:5; 2 Peter 1:1)

4. The Holy Spirit is God (e.g., Acts 5:3–5)

5. These Three are distinct persons (e.g., John 14:16–17)

On the Mount of transfiguration

“While he was still speaking, suddenly a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said: This is My beloved Son. I take delight in Him. Listen to Him! When the disciples heard it, they fell facedown and were terrified. Then Jesus came up, touched them, and said, “Get up; don’t be afraid.”” (Matthew 17:5–7) (HCSB)

“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.” (2 Peter 1:16–18) (KJV 1900)

Jesus’ Baptism

“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
Jesus predicting his Crucifixion

““Now My soul is troubled. What should I say—Father, save Me from this hour? But that is why I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again!” The crowd standing there heard it and said it was thunder. Others said that an angel had spoken to Him. Jesus responded, “This voice came, not for Me, but for you. Now is the judgment of this world. Now the ruler of this world will be cast out.” John 12:27–31 (HCSB)


Stephen's death


“But Stephen, filled by the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven. He saw God’s glory, with Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and he said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”” (Acts 7:55–56) (HCSB)

Jesus at Bethany

“Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.” John 12:28–30 (KJV 1900)

“Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; And let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; But for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, For a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, And be snared, and be taken.” Isaiah 8:13–15 (KJV 1900)
 

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Some of the Scripture proof of the Trinity;

1. There is only one God (e.g., Rom. 3:30)

2. The Father is God (e.g., John 6:27)

3. Jesus the Son is God (e.g., John 20:28; Rom. 9:5; 2 Peter 1:1)

4. The Holy Spirit is God (e.g., Acts 5:3–5)

5. These Three are distinct persons (e.g., John 14:16–17)

On the Mount of transfiguration

“While he was still speaking, suddenly a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said: This is My beloved Son. I take delight in Him. Listen to Him! When the disciples heard it, they fell facedown and were terrified. Then Jesus came up, touched them, and said, “Get up; don’t be afraid.”” (Matthew 17:5–7) (HCSB)

“For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.” (2 Peter 1:16–18) (KJV 1900)

Jesus’ Baptism

“And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:16–17) (KJV 1900)
Jesus predicting his Crucifixion

““Now My soul is troubled. What should I say—Father, save Me from this hour? But that is why I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again!” The crowd standing there heard it and said it was thunder. Others said that an angel had spoken to Him. Jesus responded, “This voice came, not for Me, but for you. Now is the judgment of this world. Now the ruler of this world will be cast out.” John 12:27–31 (HCSB)


Stephen's death


“But Stephen, filled by the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven. He saw God’s glory, with Jesus standing at the right hand of God, and he said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”” (Acts 7:55–56) (HCSB)

Jesus at Bethany

“Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.” John 12:28–30 (KJV 1900)

“Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; And let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; But for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, For a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, And be snared, and be taken.” Isaiah 8:13–15 (KJV 1900)
 

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Odd since that is all that you've posted throughout.
Don't mock God. Don't mock His word. You don't believe it now however, come the judgment you'll know how wrong you were. And that regret shall last a lifetime.
and this lecturing is being done by someone ( you) who thinks the Law of Moses and the jewish Sabbath is a requirement for Christ followers.