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Lafftur

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What if you take the mark of the beast during the Tribulation, after you believe in Christ?
Do NOT fear, if you are sealed with the Holy Spirit it will be impossible for you to take the mark of the beast. The Holy Spirit will empower you. No worries. :love:(y)
 
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Do NOT fear, if you are sealed with the Holy Spirit it will be impossible for you to take the mark of the beast. The Holy Spirit will empower you. No worries. :love:(y)

The Lord speaks through you Laffter.......I know I shouldn’t be....but I am a little jealous,xx.
 
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Dear Brethren,

I’ve read your posts and say to those who wonder about this exchange, I am falsely being accused of evil which has no basis in what I’ve written or fact. The root of that I understand but am reluctant to share.

I’ve never been angry nor have I boasted of my own relationship with God. I share what I thought might help others without reference to me as much as possible.

We are moving and have no internet so I’m using my data which is why I cannot address the issues although the personal slurs I’ll likely ignore anyway.

His best to you all
DorothyMae
 
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Dear Brethren,

I’ve read your posts and say to those who wonder about this exchange, I am falsely being accused of evil which has no basis in what I’ve written or fact. The root of that I understand but am reluctant to share.

I’ve never been angry nor have I boasted of my own relationship with God. I share what I thought might help others without reference to me as much as possible.

We are moving and have no internet so I’m using my data which is why I cannot address the issues although the personal slurs I’ll likely ignore anyway.

His best to you all
DorothyMae

Don’t worry DorothyMae...it’s not nice to be falsely accused....I never knew about the ignore button....I highly recommend you to use it.....God knows what I am like at times with my tongue...so he told me to put those who upset me in my spirit....onto ignore.......I love it because I now speak with those who are civil...also if you do get confused..they firmly but gently try and guide you....or should I say...God guides us through them.....like Laffter...the Lord has guided me through her.....don’t forget it’s the Lord that we have the relationship with.
 
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Dear Brethren,

I’ve read your posts and say to those who wonder about this exchange, I am falsely being accused of evil which has no basis in what I’ve written or fact. The root of that I understand but am reluctant to share.

I’ve never been angry nor have I boasted of my own relationship with God. I share what I thought might help others without reference to me as much as possible.

We are moving and have no internet so I’m using my data which is why I cannot address the issues although the personal slurs I’ll likely ignore anyway.

His best to you all
DorothyMae
Thanks

I don't know if it is for everyone but it has I believe help me to remember. We defend the faith of Christ that works in us. Not of us. The father of lies would have it as us in respect to us (flesh and blood against flesh and blood. )

We have the privilege of putting on the armor and keeping it on . He is the rear guard. The one who has our back. No armor for that .It, the armor of faith will cause the accuser of the brethren to flee, as it is written

Or as another posted part of that armor can be the silence button. We are to have peace with God as much as possible depending on the two walking together as one voice..
 
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Do NOT fear, if you are sealed with the Holy Spirit it will be impossible for you to take the mark of the beast. The Holy Spirit will empower you. No worries. :love:(y)
I am not worried, I believed in the pre-trib rapture.

But the point is, during the Tribulation, one can lose salvation by his actions.
 
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It will show that he is not "really saved" in the first place if he does, right? ;)

If God saves a person they can never lose their salvation....that’s it they are Heaven bound.

Some people think they have been saved in their mind.....but the only way you know you have been saved,is by God testifying to your spirit that you are his child......the Lord has taken up residence in a believers heart...never to leave or forsake you.
You can go off track....but he always woos /draws you back to him.
 
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If God saves a person they can never lose their salvation....that’s it they are Heaven bound.

Some people think they have been saved in their mind.....but the only way you know you have been saved,is by God testifying to your spirit that you are his child......the Lord has taken up residence in a believers heart...never to leave or forsake you.
You can go off track....but he always woos /draws you back to him.
Even if one takes the mark, he will not lose his salvation?
 
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My bible is clear, so was my statement....NO saved child of God will either take the mark of the beast and or lose salvation!
Hebrews to Revelations, as I have stated, is not as clear as you.

James 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

1 Peter 1
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

So if a Jew who believes in Jesus in year 1, but took the mark at a future year, he will not be enduring to the end, and hence will fail the trial.
 
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EleventhHour

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Sin is not the issue in a believer that has been born AGAIN FROM ABOVE and made SPIRITUALLY ALOVE

a. It is finished <-paid in full
b. The SPIRIT IS BORN Again and does not sin
c. Said Spirit is still bound in a body of sin
d. Christ TOOK ALL OF our sin and imputed HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS
e. Where sin ABOUNDS in a believer GRACE ABOUNDS THE MORE
f. WE ARE CHASTENED for SIN not cast away
g. God sees US THROUGH THE BLOOD AND PASSES OVER US IN JUDGEMENT
h. JESUS continually mediates for us

SIN IS NOT the issue for a beliver other than FELLOWSHIP 1st John

OUR SONSHIP is securely held by CHRIST
Amen..... Thank YOU!!
 
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EleventhHour

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I am not worried, I believed in the pre-trib rapture.

But the point is, during the Tribulation, one can lose salvation by his actions.
This is quite the statement....

So, some more fortunate believers escape tribulation and get to stay saved ... then those saved after the rapture can loose there salvation by their actions

Do you really believe this notion?
 
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This is quite the statement....

So, some more fortunate believers escape tribulation and get to stay saved ... then those saved after the rapture can loose there salvation by their actions

Do you really believe this notion?
See how contradictory he is and they are....

THE DEAD in Christ <-- all the dead

We which are alIve and REMAIN <-All the saved left

AFTER THE INGATHERING there ARE NO SAVED LEFT TO LOSE SALVATION

These jokers CONSTANTLY contradict scripture!
 
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The Bible do teach us that in the end the deception will be great, but I can only pray that this statement is true DC
It is true....One whi has been SEALED cannot be unsealed and GOD only deludes THOSE THAT will not receive the love of the truth.....NO saved child of GOD will take the MARK hence they GET THEIR HEADS CUT OFF and to your other statement which is correct....ONLY the saved dead will stand and saved alive will be gathered.....SO think about those KILLED by beheading that STAND IN THE RESURRECTION.....there is only 1 and if it has already taken PLACE then which resurrection do they STAND IN.............only ONE VIABLE CONCLUSION.......!
 
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Don’t worry DorothyMae...it’s not nice to be falsely accused....I never knew about the ignore button....I highly recommend you to use it.....God knows what I am like at times with my tongue...so he told me to put those who upset me in my spirit....onto ignore.......I love it because I now speak with those who are civil...also if you do get confused..they firmly but gently try and guide you....or should I say...God guides us through them.....like Laffter...the Lord has guided me through her.....don’t forget it’s the Lord that we have the relationship with.
No, now you only speak with those that do not challenge you doctrinally and or those that coddle you while leading you astray for the most part!