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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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Micaiah-imla said:
Again.

Should all participants in false, cultish-like, assemblies forsake those assemblies?

Here's an example: Baptists I know believe in OSAS. They are in error. I cannot associate with people accepting lies.

Another example: Pentecostals I know do not believe in OSAS; However, they allow women preachers and are out of control with the tongues. I cannot associate with people accepting lies and not walking decently and in order.

Another: Church of Chirst: Do not allow musical instruments...etc.

And I could go on.

There is so much false doctrine out there to drive one nuts!



I am not the only person with a copy of the Bible.

Anyone not obeying scripture is in error.
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Let us be honest...

Your view = NOTHING OF VALUE

Why....You are in wilful sin....end of story.....

a. Forsaking assembling = sin
b. Counting Christ's blood common = sin
c. Trampling Jesus = Sin

The Corinthian CHURCH had 15 plus errors...still IDENTIFIED AS A CHURCH

You reasoning is flawed, you are in sin, your words have no weight here pal.....

And....eternal security is biblical

So....not only are you in sin, still sold out in sin because you have not acknowledge the truth about biblical salvation...

Get right before you pay the price!!
 
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Micaiah-imla

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BillG said:
His thoughts have to come from somewhere.
His thoughts are not his own thoughts. They come from somewhere.
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My thoughts have been brought into captivity to the obedience of Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5) through the Bible.
BillG said:
if they do not go to church where have they heard the gospel?
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The Bible is where I heard the gospel.

BillG said:
Why would they even read the Bible if they have not been to a church
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Because one day, after suffering a devastating emotional injury at the hands of another person, and finding to peace or purpose, I decided to walk into a book store and read the Bible. It changed my life forever. It is the best thing on this earth that I have ever come in contact with. After experiencing its life changing effect on me, and as I learned it's doctrine, I could see all the errors of churches and church people that I never perceived before.

BillG said:
would they not research what the Bible is actually saying.

If they do not then they have no idea what the Bible is actually saying
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The words of God are clear and easy to comprehend.

There's no hidden meaning that must be received by man. This statement is foolish and is what cultish people say.
 
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EleventhHour

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Micaiah-imla said:
My thoughts have been brought into captivity to the obedience of Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5) through the Bible.


The Bible is where I heard the gospel.



Because one day, after suffering a devastating emotional injury at the hands of another person, and finding to peace or purpose, I decided to walk into a book store and read the Bible. It changed my life forever. It is the best thing on this earth that I have ever come in contact with. After experiencing its life changing effect on me, and as I learned it's doctrine, I could see all the errors of churches and church people that I never perceived before.



The words of God are clear and easy to comprehend.

There's no hidden meaning that must be received by man. This statement is foolish and is what cultish people say.
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And what is the Gospel then?
 
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Micaiah-imla

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EleventhHour said:
And what is the Gospel then?
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Believe that Jesus is the Christ.
That he came to take away our sins by death on the cross and rose again from the dead.

There is no other name under heaven whereby we must be saved.

That's introduction.

After this you should study to show yourself approved unto God, and learn what encompasses the gospel once you become a saint (behavior, obedience, ceasing from sin). Paying careful attention to the warnings and consequences of not continuing in his goodness, in this faith.
 
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Micaiah-imla

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EleventhHour said:
What does this mean?
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When Peter told Jesus, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16), Jesus answered, "blessed art thou... flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father which is in heaven".

He did not ask Peter what this meant.

But it means he is the Messiah/Christ, the Saviour of the world, as prophesied in the scriptures.
 
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EleventhHour

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Micaiah-imla said:
When Peter told Jesus, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16), Jesus answered, "blessed art thou... flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you, but my Father which is in heaven".

He did not ask Peter what this meant.

But it means his is the Messiah/Christ, the Saviour of the world.
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What does it mean to you personally and your sins?
 
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Micaiah-imla

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EleventhHour said:
What does it mean to you personally and your sins?
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Upon my believing the gospel, my sins were taken away.

Now his direction is, "go, and sin no more".

Reinforced by Paul in Romans, "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid."
 
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EleventhHour

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Micaiah-imla said:
Upon my believing the gospel, my sins were taken away.

Now his direction is, "go, and sin no more".

Reinforced by Paul in Romans, "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid."
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We believe IN Christ Jesus..... do you know what we believe in Him for?
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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Micaiah-imla said:
My thoughts have been brought into captivity to the obedience of Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5) through the Bible.


The Bible is where I heard the gospel.



Because one day, after suffering a devastating emotional injury at the hands of another person, and finding to peace or purpose, I decided to walk into a book store and read the Bible. It changed my life forever. It is the best thing on this earth that I have ever come in contact with. After experiencing its life changing effect on me, and as I learned it's doctrine, I could see all the errors of churches and church people that I never perceived before.



The words of God are clear and easy to comprehend.

There's no hidden meaning that must be received by man. This statement is foolish and is what cultish people say.
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Peter was inspired....he disagrees with your view....the same view that butchers the words of Paul and denies the writer of Hebrews to continue in sin....

a. Forsake assembling = sin
b. Trample Jesus = sin
c. Equate blood of Christ to a common thing = Sin
 
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cv5

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Micaiah-imla said:
Upon my believing the gospel, my sins were taken away.

Now his direction is, "go, and sin no more".

Reinforced by Paul in Romans, "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid."
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So you no longer sin, but other Christians sin, therefore they are not Christians.
Did I get that right?
 
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Micaiah-imla

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EleventhHour said:
I just want to say, there is tremendous arrogance in this statement, don't you think that is a problem?
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Seriously?

If you are taught how to do something the correct way, and you see someone doing it the wrong way; pointing that out to them, or even knowing this, is arrogance?
 
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EleventhHour

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Micaiah-imla said:
Seriously?

If you are taught how to do something the correct way, and you see someone doing it the wrong way; pointing that out to them, or even knowing this, is arrogance?
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Yes, because you assumed based on your own "private interpretation" that you are right and they are wrong.
 
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Micaiah-imla

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EleventhHour said:
Yes, because you assumed based on your own "private interpretation" that you are right and they are wrong.
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I do not privately interpret the Bible.

I simply believe what it says and obey it.

Jesus said to love your enemies and pray for them that persecute you.

As a result I love my enemies and pray for my persecutors.

Have I "privately interpreted" the Bible by doing this?

Of course not!
 
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