Not By Works

[BillG]

You would need to be one of the sheep given to Jesus by the Father.

Your response to the below.

What about the night they took Jesus ? , what did all the disciples do ? , they fell away from Him , they fled in shock , in doubt , Peter denying Him 3 times , and yet we are , reading the wonderful Gospels ...

I believe in Jesus when He said " Not one will I lose " , you do not trust in Jesus to keep you , you doubt God , you live in fear , satan torments you , he loves it when we doubt our LORD and Savior , find peace in Jesus , rest in Him ...

And if one of the sheep given to the Father then they will not be lost.

Hmm I wonder what that means

 

[dcontroversal]

I thought he sounded a lot like Ralph as well. Multiple people asked him if he was Ralph (me included) but he continued to dodge the question, which made him look even more guilty of being Ralph, even if he wasn't.

Exactly why I said IF he is NOT RALPH.............the verbiage, catch phrases and refusal to deny it...........very suspect.....but anyway.....I said what I needed to say and his dogma still rings false....!

 

[dcontroversal]

how Long will you continue to slander what you do not know?

who here is saying the cross. Which paid the redemption for all mankind is a license to sin,

Exactly.....NO one has said this or even come close to implying it.....

 

[dcontroversal]

OSAS says it.

And this is a lie............and also reeks of a complete ignorance of eternal security.......

Just because we say ALL sin is covered by the blood, been paid for at the CROSS and the positioning of GRACE allows GRACE to OUT BOUND our sin is NOT to SAY we have a license to SIN all we want....YOU are going on IGNORE because you are a deceptive peddle'r of that which is NOT TRUE.....and it is hilariously sad that YOU accuse us of the ABOVE while LYING about what we believe and say....YOU are very, very deceptive and NOT being led by GOD

 

[dcontroversal]

Nope

your wrong

for once in your life sit down and listen and understand what osas (true eternal security) people believe,

What is hilariously sad.....HE is accusing US of the same crap the LOST MEN and RELIGIOUSLY BLIND MEN accused PAUL of in his day....one would think he would realise that PAUL was accused of the same thing by MEN like HIM and then say...wait a minute....I am opposing the same thing they OPPOSED and am against WHAT PAUL was teaching as well and the WISE UP and get right.......dense as lead!

 

[dcontroversal]

You need the Holy Spirit to do that , man can not change your heart , only God can...

Ezekiel 36:26
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.

AMEN ROSE....if he cannot read the word of God and figure it out.....he will not figure it out even though the whole world speaks about it.....

 

[dcontroversal]

I never heard of it either , it made me feel sick when I was reading it...xox...

yeah.......it is sickening......what is worse....devaluing JESUS, his blood, his works on our behalf, his word and his power and promises on our behalf while saying HE cannot save us and keep us saved unless we do something to help.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Hitler never had faith in God
huge difference

Saul believed in God while he murdered Christians. He still had to be knocked to the ground to acknowledge his sin

AMEN......and they cannot grasp that a false gospel does not save....believing in God does not save and Hitler was a mass murderer.....<---one such man does not have eternal life dwelling in him.

 

[dcontroversal]

In summery I would simply like to say that we are saved eternally providing we keep looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, and we do not stray off the narrow path.

What part of finish, complete, kept and uttermost don't you understand....you take it off his shoulders and place it upon yours....exactly why what you peddle is false

 

[dcontroversal]

Ie
we must save ourselves
the cross is not sufficient
God does not have the power to change his children
Gods gift must be earned

I can go on and on

exactly..............

 

[dcontroversal]

That is not what I said. I gave a final conclusion.

Yeah, sucks being accused of something you don't say hey......like OSAS believes in SIN as much as you want.........

 

[EleventhHour]

Thank you, I gave my life to the Lord when I was 12 years of age and baptised in water, (full immersion) a short time after and have never looked back since.

You know the Gospel is not about giving your life to the Lord....but is actually about receiving the free gift of salvation.

Perhaps think on that.

 

[dcontroversal]

no. I do not deny we can backslide
what I deny is a backslidden child of God ceases to be a child of God genes loses their salvation

Exactly..........they flat deny finish and complete as applied to the faith CHRIST begins in us......to say we can lose faith and lose salvation clearly makes JESUS into an inept liar because he indeed does NOT finish and complete it in us.

 

[dcontroversal]

What about the man on the cross ? , his wrist were nailed to the wood , and his feet , he could not wander could he , nor stray from any path , yet Jesus said " You will be with Me in Paradise "...

And guess what....he was not immersed in water......NO water baptism

 

[dcontroversal]

John 10:16
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

Yep that`s me , in His fold , in His tender loving care , where NO ONE can snatch me from Him , forever and ever eternally secure...

Rose is swinging the sword well today....as she does every day

 

[EleventhHour]

Hebrews 6:4-6 tells us the backslider cannot repent again, otherwise he is putting Christ to open shame. He has already lost his salvation.

I give up.

That would be wrong.
Repentance in this passage is referring to the one time event of change of mind towards the Gospel.... being born again is a one time event that cannot be repeated.

 

[EleventhHour]

Rose is swinging the sword well today....as she does every day

And some else is on rapid fire...lol

 

[Lightskin]

Mormons teach people of color are angels who have not yet made up their mind who to. Follow. God or Satan

I’ll be sure to tell my homies, especially the ones who praise Jesus.

 

[EleventhHour]

Now that is a Very Strange thing to say ? ? ? He has been here for years, watching. I thank him for info on that Cult.

He was making a joke...tongue in cheek.. @Melach does that a lot.

 

[EleventhHour]

@Melach I get your sense of humor.

For sure it is easier for the mice to play when the cat is away.